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I dunno I thought the GCPS marines were always supposed to be above average soldiers ala wp2.0 fluff. Would also be OK if they wanted to make a new kit a separate unit and still offer the restic marines, they really weren't bad as far as restic goes.

 Taaloc wrote:
While I think a couple of years ago might have been a better time to run the campaign (I know there was something about it in Autumn '13, after the DZ campaign when there was still a lot of buzz- definitely would have done it then), I'm not sure that even if Mantic had been ready for it, the quality of their minis would have been.

Agreed. The Plague Zombies were a remarkable early success, but I actually feel better that Mantic are tackling Plague 3rd Gens, Steel Warriors, and potentially Asterian battle droids now rather than back when the anvil was hotter but hard plastic experience was greener.

Also, I'm not sure about the relevance of Gates of Antares and Maelstrom's Edge getting there first, as neither went over gangbusters. I pledged for Maelstrom's Edge and remain excited for it, but it didn't capture a huge market - if anything, it seemed like it had also missed some hotter period of KS funding. Why that hot funding period is past, I'm not exactly sure, as there really hasn't been any hard plastic sci-fi alternative to 40K that has blown the doors off and captured the #2 spot yet. I'm starting to wonder if Deadzone did so well in large part because it at least pretended to be something of a boardgame hybrid, and that boardgames just beat the pants off of mass battle miniatures games on Kickstarter campaigns.

If so, time for Mantic to start thinking seriously about dusting off and re-launching Project Pandora, methinks.

Oh, and the Aztec god's name is spelled Tlaloc, if that's what your handle is referencing.

I have 200+ enforcers. I need exactly 0 more. But I do need drop ships for them. Lots of drop ships. And any special characters that hit. And those corporation designs they popped up are shmexy. I wants.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I have 200+ enforcers. I need exactly 0 more. But I do need drop ships for them. Lots of drop ships. And any special characters that hit. And those corporation designs they popped up are shmexy. I wants.

When you get them all assembled and painted, you must post a picture. I have to see what that many enforcers looks like. And hats off to your ambition; that number of enforcers is far, far beyond me.

I think the concept art is supposed to be GCPS Rangers, which are the elite soldiers as far as that army is concerned now.

Used to be Marines -> Veteran Marines -> Rangers -> Enforcers before they split Enforcers into their own army, so they could be Rangers, they could be another elite option expending GCPS back out to four infantry options (or 5 if you count heavy weapon teams)

 Vermonter wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I have 200+ enforcers. I need exactly 0 more. But I do need drop ships for them. Lots of drop ships. And any special characters that hit. And those corporation designs they popped up are shmexy. I wants.

When you get them all assembled and painted, you must post a picture. I have to see what that many enforcers looks like. And hats off to your ambition; that number of enforcers is far, far beyond me.

They're all assembled so far. Except the bits I kept to pop on jetbikes.

At least if Warhammer rules ever got better, I'd have a better looking SM army now!!

The only way I'd go Corporation, is if there were some really cool vehicles involved or something we've not seen before.
If they did something like an MRAP or some hover tank, or ATVs, or a dropship, or I dunno, just about anything, I'd be all about it. I just can't see choosing sci-fi humans though.. unless.. it involved Rebels.

As has been said, there's too many alternatives for that. Asterians could be cool. Are the space elves under that suit? Somehow I thought they were basically a curvy version of Star Wars' Battle Droids.. either way would be cool but I'm not sure how I never figured that out. Though, I did think we had already funded hard plastic Asterians but it didn't pan out for whatever reason.. So much deja vu with this KS.

 MLaw wrote:
The only way I'd go Corporation, is if there were some really cool vehicles involved or something we've not seen before.
If they did something like an MRAP or some hover tank, or ATVs, or a dropship, or I dunno, just about anything, I'd be all about it. I just can't see choosing sci-fi humans though.. unless.. it involved Rebels.

It's a pretty long bow to draw at this stage, but I keep a copy of the "Warpath II" pdf around for reference, and on that the corporation had a towed field artillery piece, an APC, a self propelled artillery/MLRS, a main battle tank, and a light flame thrower tank.

The nicest way to do it would be to have the two tanks share a tracked hull, and have the APC and SPG share an MRAP or wheeled LAV hull. That's if all of them survive the version change of course.

Asterians remotely pilot droids, they're not under the armor physically, though destruction of a droid risks injury to the pilot via neural feedback.

Mantic have never funded HIPS Asterians of any kind.

 Alex C wrote:
Asterians remotely pilot droids, they're not under the armor physically, though destruction of a droid risks injury to the pilot via neural feedback.

Mantic have never funded HIPS Asterians of any kind.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/deadzone-the-sci-fi-miniatures-board-game/posts/543729

Yup, but those got "oopsied" out, right back into restic before the (first, IIRC) survey.

Shame, too: although the current asterians work, well, well enough I guess, in restic they are perhaps the faction that could do with HIPSification the most. straight, hard lines, easy to avoid side detail, but alas that was not to be.

I'm still scratching my head who in the *world* figured that it'd be a better idea to do veermyn, of all things, in HIPS way before Asterians...

Anyone see 10 enforcer bikes for $40?! Wow.

Also, when I get Lt. Roca, he will be painted up like Frank Castle: The Punisher. Because reasons. Based on what's here...
I didn't get as many jetbikes as I wanted in Deadzone. Getting another 10.
Using my $75 box as the drop ships
Buying a second $75 box of drop ships
Roca.

That's it so far.

 Bolognesus wrote:
Yup, but those got "oopsied" out, right back into restic before the (first, IIRC) survey.

Shame, too: although the current asterians work, well, well enough I guess, in restic they are perhaps the faction that could do with HIPSification the most. straight, hard lines, easy to avoid side detail, but alas that was not to be.

Exactly!

That was the Beginning of the End for a lot of Mantic stuff for me.

I'll give them another shot in HIPs though!

(Maybe!)

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Anyone see 10 enforcer bikes for $40?! Wow.

Most people following the project, I'd wager.

This thread is really lacking in pics!

I'm kind of surprised it really isn't being kept up to date 'real time'!

 Taaloc wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if Deadzone did so well in large part because it at least pretended to be something of a boardgame hybrid, and that boardgames just beat the pants off of mass battle miniatures games on Kickstarter campaigns.

If so, time for Mantic to start thinking seriously about dusting off and re-launching Project Pandora, methinks.

Think the terrain in DZ drove a ton of pledges, as it is great for any sci-fi game, as did the hard plastic enforcers. Take those 2 out of the picture and I think DZ would have been about where Warpath is now.

Also think Mantic probably lost a lot of goodwill due to the 'questionable' quality of the DZ minis, and people realizing that you can pick up Mantic stuff very easily at huge discounts to RRP, making the KS less of a deal to tie up funds for months in advance.

I kind of love the tunneler. It doesn't look very menacing, but there isn't anywhere to put guns on a drill. Is it a melee vehicle?

Should add a compartment that pops open to reveal the dread chem laser!

Making the Asterian drones first makes sense. But on humans, it's not sci-fi humans that are overdone by everyone and their dog, it's sci-fi human men.

 Alpharius wrote:
This thread is really lacking in pics!

I'm kind of surprised it really isn't being kept up to date 'real time'!

It's sad since it is the second one to be created too... It is pretty tough to stay up on them though. I did the last KS, iirc, and it was a pain.

So close to dropping my pledge.....

Best to wait until the end...

 Alpharius wrote:
This thread is really lacking in pics!

I'm kind of surprised it really isn't being kept up to date 'real time'!

The thing is, how many pictures do you want me to shove up that OP? At some point it's going to make rather a bit of smoke come out of both phones and mobile data connections alike every time you try to look at that first page.

And it's not as if Mantic is putting out such a huge volume of newsworthy pictures compared to their usual tempo.

Glad to see the reworked Corp may be making an appearance in HIPS plastic; If they are released with a 20-for-20 deal, I'll probably get a score or two of them.

However, Mantic, listen to what AlexHolker and others are saying:

If you have a Corp sprue with just dudes, you'll get me to buy 20-40 of them.

If you have one with guys and ladies, or better yet a second dedicated sprue of just ladies (And realistic, no need for cheesecake here), you'll also get probably another two to threescore of figures on top of my order from my wife as well, effectively doubling the profit from this consumer household.

Already I know the Pathfinders I have coming are probably going to be her favorite Mantic models since the Deadzone Rebs and (soon) the Succubi, but she would drop a wad of cash in a heartbeat if it meant lots of affordable female HIPS scifi soldiers.

So many kickstarter and miniature gaming biz experts on dakka! Psh, if only they'd listen they would be on their second billion by now

I want a driller transport that carries smaller drills that rats ride like rice burners, and i want the drillbikes 10 for $40!

Oooh. I like this.

They can drive around in the drill-bikes like shriners in their tiny little cars!


Like this, but Veermyn and drill-cars. Woowoo.

Those Shriners look like they have no legs.

Like some sort of 40k admech servant type robot thing whose name escapes me at the moment.

Now, no thanks to our very own Vermonter, I can't get the idea of a Project Pandora/ Space Crusade/ Dungeon Saga crawl type game out of my head, and am ready to welcome it into being with both open arms and wallet.

As someone who always wanted a copy of Space Crusade in the US, after reading about it in a review in Dragon Magazine in an old B.Dalton, I've wanted something like it ever since, but have waited for a more modern take on the game.

If anyone will do it, it would be Mantic.

Really liking this KS, only $10k to get the next vehicle in!

Pledge manager being open until February with this one is going to be rough on the wallet, I can see this ending up at a $1000 spend for me, especially if there aren't any more Mantic Kickstarters for a while after this.

Currently thinking Operation Heracles + 4 battlegroups for the other 4 armies + 4 vehicle battlegroups. Even that only comes to $725, but some of the bundles look tempting.. $4 jetbikes aren't likely to happen anytime soon, I suspect that boxes of 2 for £10 or £25 for 6 are likely to be the retail pricing on those. Probably going to be one of the better buys, like peacekeepers were in the first Deadzone KS.

 Bolognesus wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
This thread is really lacking in pics!

I'm kind of surprised it really isn't being kept up to date 'real time'!

The thing is, how many pictures do you want me to shove up that OP? At some point it's going to make rather a bit of smoke come out of both phones and mobile data connections alike every time you try to look at that first page.

And it's not as if Mantic is putting out such a huge volume of newsworthy pictures compared to their usual tempo.

I've got to be honest with you, outside of a link to the project, I don't really check the first post much.

To me, its best if new pics get posted in the thread and the title gets updated - that's it!

The battlepack for the Tunnelers has some extra junk in the trunk.