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Experiment 626 wrote:
Bugcurion detachment

You might have just coined the name with that one. No matter what it is, shorthand will be Bugcurion.

Oc-tau-ber and Nid-vember? What's next? :p

 mazik765 wrote:
Oc-tau-ber and Nid-vember? What's next? :p

Horusherecember?

Well given that HH launches in November, probably not...

I'm furious at the lousy state of 'Nids, and I very much doubt a new Tyranid codex would fix the glaring issues I see with the army.

I like the minis, but GW can go feth itself on keeping me interested in their rules.

 Stormonu wrote:
I'm furious at the lousy state of 'Nids, and I very much doubt a new Tyranid codex would fix the glaring issues I see with the army.

Especially if a new 'Nid Codex is just a 'here are the new models, other rules stay the same' kinda update like the Tau one is.

God I hope that doesn't become a trend...

Shall we try to build a time line?
We got some AoS with lizardmen coming out,
And they dropped the horus heresy teaser, so we know thats coming, So 3rd week of november maybe the second part of damocles? could have nids in it, tho I assumed something farsight was related,

Question does GW release new stuff the month of december? if so id hedge my bets on a december being either nids or AoS the following month or vica vercea

 Girrrrrrrrrrr wrote:
Shall we try to build a time line?
We got some AoS with lizardmen coming out,
And they dropped the horus heresy teaser, so we know thats coming, So 3rd week of november maybe the second part of damocles? could have nids in it, tho I assumed something farsight was related,

Question does GW release new stuff the month of december? if so id hedge my bets on a december being either nids or AoS the following month or vica vercea

Blood Angels were December last year IIRC with a little bit of Smaug the Golden for The Hobbit.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Girrrrrrrrrrr wrote:
Shall we try to build a time line?
We got some AoS with lizardmen coming out,
And they dropped the horus heresy teaser, so we know thats coming, So 3rd week of november maybe the second part of damocles? could have nids in it, tho I assumed something farsight was related,

Question does GW release new stuff the month of december? if so id hedge my bets on a december being either nids or AoS the following month or vica vercea

Blood Angels were December last year IIRC with a little bit of Smaug the Golden for The Hobbit.

They were split between both months. This year is Heresember though.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
I'm furious at the lousy state of 'Nids, and I very much doubt a new Tyranid codex would fix the glaring issues I see with the army.

Especially if a new 'Nid Codex is just a 'here are the new models, other rules stay the same' kinda update like the Tau one is.

God I hope that doesn't become a trend...

Well, the people who have built 'armies' of four flyrants and precious little else would be fine with that, I'm sure. But it would be disheartening for those of us who are genuine fans of the army who want to use the rest of our stuff.

The army needs a real overhaul, but I think it's unlikely that we'll see one.

Space Hulk did not get more than one or two weeks so why should the HH game. I dont think it will be a long release. Nids, Tau, more AoS all still possible in 2016

Edited for clarity

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
I'm furious at the lousy state of 'Nids, and I very much doubt a new Tyranid codex would fix the glaring issues I see with the army.

Especially if a new 'Nid Codex is just a 'here are the new models, other rules stay the same' kinda update like the Tau one is.

God I hope that doesn't become a trend...

The big thing about any of the new codices are the formations, imo. If Tyranids get, say, a formation that lets Lictors charge after Infiltrate/Outflank/Deep Strike, it'll change the dynamic of that unit. If they get a formation that gives makes Dakkafexes better, MC spam lists might make a comeback. Or a formation that lets a MC take a Look Out Sir as long as there are Termagants/Hormagaunts within 6" even though they're not a squad.

The formations that do exist are actually pretty good. If they all got added in with a few new ones and suddenly there was a Detachment Bonus (like the Decurion 4+ RP) that had some sort of boost for every model in Synapse range that was part of the Detachment, we could see some seriously different lists.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
I'm furious at the lousy state of 'Nids, and I very much doubt a new Tyranid codex would fix the glaring issues I see with the army.

Especially if a new 'Nid Codex is just a 'here are the new models, other rules stay the same' kinda update like the Tau one is.

God I hope that doesn't become a trend...

Become? It is the trend. SM were the same and so were Eldar apart from Exarch powers, pretty much.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Become? It is the trend. SM were the same and so were Eldar apart from Exarch powers, pretty much.

Except GW has never said "Nah brah, you can just get this and keep your existing Codex! You don't need the new one!" before. Ever. Until now.

This means that if this becomes the norm then being stuck with a gak Codex (like the 'Nids) then too bad, you're gonna be stuck with that for a while longer.

And the previous Eldar Codex was riddled with Strength D? I don't remember that...

Ughh. Is it so hard to decide on a design paradigm and stick with it through at least one edition?

 Eldarain wrote:
Ughh. Is it so hard to decide on a design paradigm and stick with it through at least one edition?

Beware what you're asking for! The day it'll happen is the day GW will update its editions every 6 months!

I personally would like to see the mid size mobs be able to join a unit, having a zoan or a venomthrope sniped out in the first turn by an ignores cover shot is extremely frustrating.

Having regen work different would also be more useful as a biomorph, changing it from it will not die for 30p having a 5+ FNP for 30p seems to me to be priced better, either that or lower the cost for IWND.

Having synapse do more than fearless would also promote a bit more synergy, I really liked the old Tervigon rules where you could buff the squishy's you expelled with their creator was a great rule.

Heck giving squishys a 6+ FNP if near a GC or your warlord might change it up as well

If they got some good formations then you'll be happy. Tyranids need a slightly bigger push than Tau but not too much. Your codex wasn't all that bad. So I might expect at least a few points tweaks, but otherwise mostly just some solid formations.

Assuming GW doesn't take leave of their senses. Good luck.

Yeah, I couldn't disagree more with that. What Tyranid players could use are more of the stinker units -- and there are plenty -- to improve and create more options for army building.

A few formations that drive army composition down a very narrow path or two really doesn't improve the situation. I want some interesting variety, not an OP build or two.

Having said that, I only expect some minor tweaks. They had opportunities with the last codex to price Genestealers appropriately, improve some of the MCs, etc. and they chose not to. And they probably won't mess with the Leviathan units much, some of which were DOA.

 gorgon wrote:
Yeah, I couldn't disagree more with that. What Tyranid players could use are more of the stinker units -- and there are plenty -- to improve and create more options for army building.

A few formations that drive army composition down a very narrow path or two really doesn't improve the situation. I want some interesting variety, not an OP build or two.

Having said that, I only expect some minor tweaks. They had opportunities with the last codex to price Genestealers appropriately, improve some of the MCs, etc. and they chose not to. And they probably won't mess with the Leviathan units much, some of which were DOA.

I'd love the bad units to be buffed as much as the next guy, but tell me this:

If the big "Nidecurion" bonus was "All models from this formation have FNP and Eternal Warrior while in Synapse", would you be mad? I mean, that basically bring Warriors back as decent units, makes almost all the bigger bugs decent, and might actually make foot Tyrants worth taking (since Tyrant Guard would be much harder to take down). Not to mention that mass blobs of little bugs would be much harder to kill overall.

Requizen wrote:
If the big "Nidecurion" bonus was "All models from this formation have FNP and Eternal Warrior while in Synapse", would you be mad?

Of course, because it doesn't fix the underlying problem of the book being full of gak units.

Meh, if we get a few new things, and all the existing unit and formation dataslates in one book I'll be happy.

I fear a nerf of twin linked devourers with Brain leeches.

I sincerely hope the Tyranids doesnt get the Tau treatment. Tau atleast had a somewhat solid codex, couple new units and formations was really all it needed (though some number tweaks would have been nice on say stealthsuits, but off topic). Tyranids need a damn near complete rewrite their dex is so lousy.

I love tyranid models, always have. But theyre the only army whose abysmal rules deter me from picking them up. While i DONT want them to get Biomancy access back because tyrants with ironarm was absolute bull**** to deal with, they need some seriously better powers.

As for GMCs i could see them getting a smaller but still a GMC Harridan (as in one thats ~400pts when kitted out and killable but not easily like the Stormsurge ended up as). While i could also see the Trygon becoming a GMC once again, that'd be a bit lame to just bump it to GMC status considering all GMCs are much bigger than it is now.

So no actual updates here, just wishlisting?

Not to sound rude but I keep popping in only to find nothing actually indicating a Tyranid release.

With the Horus Heresy game confirmed for early November, and no rumor-mongers backing Naftka on "Nidvember" (or even "nids soon"?) this seems really false... best to let the thread fall down the page unless there is any real info to discuss.

It's the cult or it was last time I was informed

Does anyone have any new info on Q1 Nids next year?

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/10/40k-rumors-about-those-q1-tyranids.html

I was thinking of scoring big on some Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals and putting together a cheap Nid army - but if something as basic as Termagaunts are getting new kits, I don't think it'll be worth it. I have a hard time believing they'll be getting an updated model with "new weapon options" when they already have 4. Why would they get a new kit and not Hormagaunts?

Fingers crossed for a gakky new GMC called the "Galactovore" or something equally horrendous, bristling with melee D-weapons while still being like toughness 5 with a 6'' move 'cause 'nids.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Fingers crossed for a gakky new GMC called the "Galactovore" or something equally horrendous, bristling with melee D-weapons while still being like toughness 5 with a 6'' move 'cause 'nids.

Odds on it'll be that. Nothing T7+ for us 'Nid players...

@HBMC: Purely anecdotal but my experience across several groups over the last decade - I'm seen more as a Games Master running a bunch of villains to be mown down at range and beaten snotless in assault for the enjoyment of the Protagonist than a fellow gamer.

GW seem to agree with that. Orks get more attacks on the charge than a four armed 'stealer for IIRC half the points, just as one example.

Heck, 'stealers have a sprue full of upgrade heads that they couldn't be bothered doing anything with last time I checked.

I wouldn't be that bothered if we simply got a new codex with no model releases.