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I've had great fun playing this game, even though some of the strategic aspects have been removed, like the loose formation and the cavalry wedge.

I recommend 'Bretonnia by Prater'. It's a great mod which adds a lot of good stuff, like new units and a new tech tree unique to Bretonnia.

 Gamgee wrote:
I've found the beastmen to be as bad as the dwarves and am disappointed. I'm talking purely multiplayer here. They are pushovers.

Cool campaign faction terrible for multiplayer.

I have had the exact opposite experience. Maybe because people have figured them out, but they have been kicking ass in Multiplayer. A lot of this is due to Devolve and Savage Dominion being really really powerful.

 Ashiraya wrote:
This is embarrassing. Is this supposed to be my top agent?

Those traits.

You get likes <faction> if after winning you spare enemy soldiers and ransom them.
Its the built in downside to farming enemy armies. It also makes sense.

How heroes get likes < faction> I dont know, but it would make sense if its due to choices made in play.

Stupid is a trait heroes are born with, I refuse to buy heroes and lords with extreme negative traits. It would make sense if you got stupid after being beaten up in battle badly, one too many head wounds et al.

I usually always Dominate as VC, so I don't know how she got Likes Chaos - especially as a Hero.

The reason she sits on Stupid was because she is one of those characters you sometimes get for free.

This game is great fun. I'm on turn 290 of my first campaign (dwarves) and am still having a blast conquering the map.

The price is well worth it to me. I will pay for a game and it's DLC if it is worth it to me. That's how this works. If you're complaining about the price then clearly you need to wait for a sale before it's worth it to you.

 Sasori wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I've found the beastmen to be as bad as the dwarves and am disappointed. I'm talking purely multiplayer here. They are pushovers.

Cool campaign faction terrible for multiplayer.

I have had the exact opposite experience. Maybe because people have figured them out, but they have been kicking ass in Multiplayer. A lot of this is due to Devolve and Savage Dominion being really really powerful.

I don't cluster my forces. I find AOE spells are really weak in this game for the most part.

I played my Dwarf friend with a flying Mannfred who set up a defensive battle line to gun me down.

I flanked him with Mannfred and cast a boosted Wind of Death that hit his entire frontline.

Pretty much half his army died.

 Ashiraya wrote:
I played my Dwarf friend with a flying Mannfred who set up a defensive battle line to gun me down.

I flanked him with Mannfred and cast a boosted Wind of Death that hit his entire frontline.

Pretty much half his army died.

Sounds like they got a little too close to warhammer fantasy tabletop then...

How did it work in WHFB?

 Gamgee wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I've found the beastmen to be as bad as the dwarves and am disappointed. I'm talking purely multiplayer here. They are pushovers.

Cool campaign faction terrible for multiplayer.

I have had the exact opposite experience. Maybe because people have figured them out, but they have been kicking ass in Multiplayer. A lot of this is due to Devolve and Savage Dominion being really really powerful.

I don't cluster my forces. I find AOE spells are really weak in this game for the most part.

The Devolve Range is absolutely massive though, I think it is the largest AOE in the game.

 Ashiraya wrote:
I usually always Dominate as VC, so I don't know how she got Likes Chaos - especially as a Hero.

The reason she sits on Stupid was because she is one of those characters you sometimes get for free.

Well liking chaos is rather stupid.

Manfred likes her though, probably decorative. She is also the loyal idiot who signed up when nobody else stepped forward (gift character), so I can see why he keeps her around.
It does make sense frankly.

Besides, she has done fairly well in combat so far, and the Stupid penalty has never really caused any issues (whereas its charge bonus has come in handy).


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The stories that this game creates are amazing.

I have played many VC campaigns, some in multiplayer, and I have pretty much always gotten a general early on named Gunther von Diehl who always looks the same, who I give the same talents and similar infantry armies. I've gotten quite attached to the guy.

This campaign it seems I got his twin brother Oswald von Diehl instead, but he was trapped and ganked by Kislev! After a tearful salute I swore that I would recruit Gunther the moment he pops up in this campaign, and that when I do, he will get revenge!

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/4z1bu4/the_grave_and_the_grim_dlc_is_coming_1st_september/

Guess whose ridin in?

http://imgur.com/a/al2nU

Awww, the one thing I want (coven throne) isn't there. :(

It'll come eventually, I don't doubt it, personally I am waiting for Carroburg Greatswords.

I really liked the mortis engine and ghoul king personally. Unleashing crypt horrors into close combat against poor little greatswords was such a fun thing. Crypt horrors were one of the more durable units in the tabletop as far as monstrous infantry were concerned. Add a mortis engine here and there and they get super resilient.

 Ashiraya wrote:
I played my Dwarf friend with a flying Mannfred who set up a defensive battle line to gun me down.

I flanked him with Mannfred and cast a boosted Wind of Death that hit his entire frontline.

Pretty much half his army died.

If i recall that spell when hitting a unit it basically did something like d6 wounds per rank of a certain strength or something and was a vortex (i can't remember if it went out from the caster or just came down on the table somewhere and moved). It's been over a year and i only glanced at my vampire counts 8th ed army book. It's a shame. Such a waste of a great tabletop game and a waste of money to buy something completely worthless now. I need to seriously find a game store with players that don't mind playing 8th. I dunno if i want to try out 9th.

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My big question is this. With the mentions of beastmen and skaven in the base game and now that beastmen have been released should we expect skaven to come? They were the faction i played. The only thing that bummed me out was the army wasn't updated to 8th edition much like beastmen and bretonnia and was the 2nd oldest army book despite being a hugely popular faction (seriously go screw yourself GW no army book update since '08 or '09 with End Times being a mild exception).

I have faith if CA can make beastmen a true good ambush faction rather than an under-powered piece of crap of an army then skaven can get more options than rares (abomination, warp lightning cannon and doomwheel) and hordes (spam of crappy dudes). The rare choices did the damage and the hordes held up the enemy. Would be interesting to see more viability with poisoned wind globadiers, jezzails, weapons teams (ratling guns, doom flayers, warpfire throwers, poisoned wind mortars and the warp grinder tunnel team) and such like rather than the lack of flavor GW gave to em.

Hopefully we get End Times Vermin Lords though excepting those ugly as **** feet the models had. Seriously whoever designed their feet and knees should get similar treatment to theirs .

It's rather unlikely we will see Skaven so early, considering the area focus we will likely see Wood Elves and Bret released first.

However there was a russian leak that's been rather accurate so far, Skaven would be coming after Wood Elves and Tomb Kings if it's correct still.

http://totalwars.ru/index.php/total-war-warhammer-news/2576-total-war-warhammer-fb-dlc-and-expansion-pack-plans.html The link if your so interested.

Oh those Russians, hack into anything.

Nice scoop though if true.

Well they did manage to get all the names right for the Beastmen One Eye campaign, which does give it some credibility.

Edit: So the FreeLC is Vlad Von Carnstein.

I would prefer a Mousillon based character for the FLC vamp.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Well they did manage to get all the names right for the Beastmen One Eye campaign, which does give it some credibility.

Edit: So the FreeLC is Vlad Von Carnstein.

VLAD?! Oh hell yes! This may get me back into that game!!

Now if only that friggen mousillion mod would be updated so I can try that mission again! it was seriously the most fun I had in any total war game.

Preordered the DLC, for 8$ CDN, felt like a good price to me.

Vlad?! Yes!

Not as much yes as Mannfred, but still yes!

Mannfred was always the coolest von carstein. Far as i know he was more cunning than just plain bad *** though.

There is something fishy going on here...

Apparently no alcohol is good enough for Sigvald anymore, I guess once you start burning down nearly all the wineries for being poor you just realize none can satisfy your thirst.

One of his movement quotes is literally 'Shall we decant the wine?'

 Ashiraya wrote:
One of his movement quotes is literally 'Shall we decant the wine?'

Who knows whats in the 'wine' that Sigvald drinks....

 Silent Puffin? wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
One of his movement quotes is literally 'Shall we decant the wine?'

Who knows whats in the 'wine' that Sigvald drinks....

I would guess at destiled virginity, rainbows and several black arks worth of shrooms

Started playing another campaign on hard this time. I'm playing as Karl Franz with the empire. Had some nice victories and finally have my income per turn in over a 1,000. It's only slightly above 30+ turns so i'm feelin alright about this.

I figured i'd play this game now that i beat xcom 2 on hardest difficulty on ironman mode. This game is hard for me but a change of pace besides slamming my head into a wall for hours until victory is nice (at least this game on 'hard' is easier than the hardest difficulty of xcom 2 on ironman for me esp. with empire).