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Obviously he shouldn't have been walking about with a name like Tai. That doesn't sound white, and I'm immediately suspicious why he's in my neighborhood.

   
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 LordofHats wrote:
Obviously he shouldn't have been walking about with a name like Tai. That doesn't sound white, and I'm immediately suspicious why he's in my neighborhood.


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 d-usa wrote:
I'm sorry the student had his camera smashed to the ground, his livelihood destroyed, protesters marching with him everywhere he goes to make sure that nobody ever does any business with him, had his home destroyed and burned to the ground, and then was beaten, tortured, and killed.

To summarize this thread:

Someone draws an actual real life swastika made out of human gak on a wall: what can you anybody really do about this....

Idiotic protesters push a student-reporter away from the public area and chant that they don't want him there: what a bunch of Nazis...



The difference being one was recorded on video, so something might actually be done about that one. Plus.... anonymous poop swastikas, as bad as they are - could still fall under freedom of speech and/or artistic expression - we don't ban swastikas.

Whereas the other is quite possibly assault and battery by a university employee committed unto a student for the crime of recording video.
   
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Freedom of Speech allows for the protest of poop swastikas; It isn't like a poop swastika is protected speech but reacting to it isn't; Freedom of Speech doesn't mean Freedom from Consequences.

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 Ahtman wrote:
Freedom of Speech allows for the protest of poop swastikas; It isn't like a poop swastika is protected speech but reacting to it isn't; Freedom of Speech doesn't mean Freedom from Consequences.


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 Ouze wrote:
Shoving a reporter is pretty analogous with orchestrating the holocaust; and I can't imagine why anyone would be offended by that comparison.




What I am saying is that it was a situation that could have easily gone out of control and that reporter gotten badly hurt. I'm not talking holocaust, just that almost any repressive society acts the same way this professor and those kids did in that they threaten the press through speech or action. Let's just agree to call them idiots.


Ah, good. More threats from the idiots on the other side of this coming out of the woodwork:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/11/social-media-threats-increase-tension-at-university-missouri/?intcmp=hpbt2

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Here's what we know of so far...

a) The poopsticka is still unconfirmed. The Police had no reports of it... the Resident assistants had no reports of it... there are no pictures as evidence. Its likely a hoax at this point.

b) The President of the student body "walked back" the claims that there's a KKK presence on campus.

c) That Communication TA who called for the "muscle" is laying low and resigned from the J-school's courtesy position. J-school professors are hopping mad at the SJW types and are in damage-control now.

d) This whole ordeal absurdly shows how powerful Football is at these schools... if the student-athletes are smart, they'd use this opportunity to "strike" for a bigger piece of the football/basketball pie.

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I'm curious to see what changes the new leadership will implement to stop drunken students or random people in trucks from using the N word. maybe make a wall of students around every black student to chant and drown out the scary words they might hear?

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 whembly wrote:
Here's what we know of so far...

a) The poopsticka is still unconfirmed. The Police had no reports of it... the Resident assistants had no reports of it... there are no pictures as evidence. Its likely a hoax at this point.

b) The President of the student body "walked back" the claims that there's a KKK presence on campus.

c) That Communication TA who called for the "muscle" is laying low and resigned from the J-school's courtesy position. J-school professors are hopping mad at the SJW types and are in damage-control now.

d) This whole ordeal absurdly shows how powerful Football is at these schools... if the student-athletes are smart, they'd use this opportunity to "strike" for a bigger piece of the football/basketball pie.


I don't think this happened because the football team is powerful on campus I think this happened because of how much media attention is given to college football, especially in Power 5 conferences like the SEC. The involvement of the football team generated a lot of the publicity. National news outlets like ESPN brought the situation at Missouri to the attention of tens of millions of viewers that otherwise would never have known about it. That kind of media attention, in concert with social media, puts a lot of pressure on the university to do something. If the graduate student on the hunger strike hadn't been able to convince some of the black players to join the protest I don't think the university president would have stepped down.

Striking players at a school isn't enough to really change the system. That kind of overhaul needs to happen on a conference and NCAA level. The Power 5 conferences should just break away from the NCAA for football and do their own thing but the schools don't want to give up the advantages of having the NCAA running the system for them.

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 whembly wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Your argument doesn't hold. The people doing the removing weren't police. They were protesters and a journalism professor who should be fired faster than I can spit.

Click is an associate Media professor... not of Journalism department. Different schools... the J-school professors are spitting mad about Click... but, I doubt she gets fired.

So, maybe not "fired" per se....

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/10/professor-caught-bullying-student-journalist-out-of-safe-space-releases-statement-read-it-here/

Oliver Darcy wrote:Professor Caught Bullying Student Journalist Out of ‘Safe Space’ Releases Statement — Read It Here

A University of Missouri professor seen in a viral video bullying a student journalist out of a campus “safe space” apologized in a statement Tuesday.

“Yesterday was an historic day at MU—full of emotion and confusion. I have reviewed and reflected upon the video of me that is circulating, and have written this statement to offer both apology and context for my actions,” Mass communications professor Melissa Click said in a statement forwarded to TheBlaze.

“I have reached out to the journalists involved to offer my sincere apologies and to express regret over my actions,” she added.



Click was captured Monday calling for “muscle” to remove a journalist who was inside a “safe space” photographing demonstrators who had succeeded in ousting the university president.

“I regret the language and strategies I used, and sincerely apologize to the MU campus community, and journalists at large, for my behavior, and also for the way my actions have shifted attention away from the students’ campaign for justice,” she said.

Click said the experience has taught her “humanity and humility” and that she apologized to one of the reporters involved.

“{H]e accepted my apology,” she said. “I believe he is doing a difficult job, and I am grateful to have had the opportunity to speak with him. His dignity also speaks well to the Journalism program at MU.”

Mizzou’s Department of Communication also issued a statement that reiterated its commitment to the First Amendment.

“We applaud student journalists who were working in a very trying atmosphere to report a significant story. Intimidation is never an acceptable form of communication,” the statement said.

The department said it could not elaborate on any disciplinary measures Click would face due to university policy. The School of Journalism was also set to vote Tuesday on whether to revoke Click’s courtesy appointment.

UPDATE: 9:12 p.m. ET: Professor Melissa Click resigned her courtesy appointment to the School of Journalism, according to the dean.

Kurp (via Twitter) wrote:While the J-School faculty were meeting, Dr. Melissa Click resigned her courtesy appointment with the School. #Mizzou @mojonews



 
   
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 whembly wrote:
a) The poopsticka is still unconfirmed. The Police had no reports of it... the Resident assistants had no reports of it... there are no pictures as evidence. Its likely a hoax at this point.


Wellllll... I would say no police report doesn't mean anything. I think it's likely however you feel about this issue, you can probably agree that a poostika is quite possibly not even a crime, and if it is, it's not one that the police would take seriously since the chances of someone getting caught are nonexistent. I wouldn't take the lack of a police report to mean it's a hoax.

But no pictures? in 2015, when everyone in the world has a camera in their pocket? That I cannot believe. I know if I saw a poostika or well, very nearly any public communication in the rarely-used medium of human feces, I'd feel obligated; nay, compelled to document it. I might not call the cops, but I'd certainly put it on Facebook at a minimum.

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Indeed...

Still... all this looks like is that this person is simply looking to agitate for the sake of agitating... which is a shame because it makes it even harder to have any meaningful discussions on actual racial issues.

By the way, is anyone finding all of this ironic? I mean, when you get down to it... going to a University is a privilege, in itself. Especially since many minors get preferential admission/grants/loans treatment over white students.

And this hunger striker Jon Butler... dude comes from a wealthy family (net worth over 20 million). Not that I'm arguing that he wouldn've had been targeted by racial epithet or things like that. But, I'm having a real hard time believing that there's systemic racism on that that campus.

He's more privileged that I ever was when going thru college....

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My understanding is that there is a picture, but it may be one that has been floating around on the internet since before the incident is alleged to have happened. Not certain of the reliability of that though.
   
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Gwaihirsbrother wrote:
My understanding is that there is a picture, but it may be one that has been floating around on the internet since before the incident is alleged to have happened. Not certain of the reliability of that though.

That's the reddit one from 11 months ago? (I'm not linking it) Just imagine a single 4 x 4 white bathroom tile with a brown swatiska finger-painting...

If that's the image, no one can confirm where that came from.

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At this point, can we just say it is an embarrassment for all parties involved yet?

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 whembly wrote:
Indeed...

Still... all this looks like is that this person is simply looking to agitate for the sake of agitating... which is a shame because it makes it even harder to have any meaningful discussions on actual racial issues.

By the way, is anyone finding all of this ironic? I mean, when you get down to it... going to a University is a privilege, in itself. Especially since many minors get preferential admission/grants/loans treatment over white students.

And this hunger striker Jon Butler... dude comes from a wealthy family (net worth over 20 million). Not that I'm arguing that he wouldn've had been targeted by racial epithet or things like that. But, I'm having a real hard time believing that there's systemic racism on that that campus.

He's more privileged that I ever was when going thru college....


Couldn't agree more.

This is the very same campus that welcomed homosexual minority football player Michal Sam with open arms.

Hope they feel good about themselves.

I also am shocked at the Columbia PDs recent release. Staggering, really.

 
   
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 whembly wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Your argument doesn't hold. The people doing the removing weren't police. They were protesters and a journalism professor who should be fired faster than I can spit.

Click is an associate Media professor... not of Journalism department. Different schools... the J-school professors are spitting mad about Click... but, I doubt she gets fired.


Sorry, my bad on that.


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 d-usa wrote:
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A video of the protestors acting like a mob of brown shirt thugs,


Godwinned already?



Well technically Mussolini's Fascists first had brown shirts...

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No worries.

Also... the SJW agitators claimed another scalp:
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6971
Mizzou professor resigns following outrage over his refusal to cancel exam

“If you don’t feel safe coming to class, then don’t come to class,” Dr. Brigham told his students. “I will be there, and there will be an exam administered in our class.”

Dr. Dale Brigham, considered one of the most beloved professors at the University of Missouri, has been forced to resign after initially refusing to cancel an exam for students who claimed to feel “unsafe.”

“If you don’t feel safe coming to class, then don’t come to class,” Dr. Brigham told his students. “I will be there, and there will be an exam administered in our class,” he continued, imploring his students to stand up to the bullies on campus. “If you give into bullies, they win. The only way bullies are defeated is by standing up to them.”


Dr. Brigham was sharply criticized in the media for requiring his students to attend class and take their exam. Salon ran a story with the headline “White Missouri professor shames black students for heeding violent threats.”The Washington Post featured similar coverage of “a white professor” who “challenged his students to come to class.”

Those upset with Dr. Brigham’s decision to hold class took to Twitter calling for Brigham to be fired and calling him “a failure as a human being.”

Under intense pressure, Dr. Brigham has both cancelled the exam and resigned from the university, according to screenshots posted online of an email from Dr. Brigham to his students.

“The exam is cancelled. Our students will be able to take the exam at an alternate date with no loss of points,” Dr. Brigham told students. “No one will have to come to class today. And, I am resigning my position.

One University of Missouri student told Campus Reform that Dr. Brigham, who he called “one of the most beloved professors at Mizzou,” was forced to resign.

“His class was one of the most popular at Mizzou and he was the friendliest teacher I've ever had. It's a shame that he's leaving while Melissa Click stays,” the student continued. The student also told Campus Reform that campus was open and classes were being held, but “false KKK threats” caused a “panic” among students.

Many Missouri students have taken to Twitter to voice their displeasure at Dr. Brigham’s departure, calling him “ the nicest guy,” and their favorite professor.

Dr. Brigham did not return Campus Reform’s phone call request for confirmation of his resignation.

Shaking my head...

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 whembly wrote:
No worries.

Also... the SJW agitators claimed another scalp:
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6971
Mizzou professor resigns following outrage over his refusal to cancel exam

“If you don’t feel safe coming to class, then don’t come to class,” Dr. Brigham told his students. “I will be there, and there will be an exam administered in our class.”

Dr. Dale Brigham, considered one of the most beloved professors at the University of Missouri, has been forced to resign after initially refusing to cancel an exam for students who claimed to feel “unsafe.”

“If you don’t feel safe coming to class, then don’t come to class,” Dr. Brigham told his students. “I will be there, and there will be an exam administered in our class,” he continued, imploring his students to stand up to the bullies on campus. “If you give into bullies, they win. The only way bullies are defeated is by standing up to them.”


Dr. Brigham was sharply criticized in the media for requiring his students to attend class and take their exam. Salon ran a story with the headline “White Missouri professor shames black students for heeding violent threats.”The Washington Post featured similar coverage of “a white professor” who “challenged his students to come to class.”

Those upset with Dr. Brigham’s decision to hold class took to Twitter calling for Brigham to be fired and calling him “a failure as a human being.”

Under intense pressure, Dr. Brigham has both cancelled the exam and resigned from the university, according to screenshots posted online of an email from Dr. Brigham to his students.

“The exam is cancelled. Our students will be able to take the exam at an alternate date with no loss of points,” Dr. Brigham told students. “No one will have to come to class today. And, I am resigning my position.

One University of Missouri student told Campus Reform that Dr. Brigham, who he called “one of the most beloved professors at Mizzou,” was forced to resign.

“His class was one of the most popular at Mizzou and he was the friendliest teacher I've ever had. It's a shame that he's leaving while Melissa Click stays,” the student continued. The student also told Campus Reform that campus was open and classes were being held, but “false KKK threats” caused a “panic” among students.

Many Missouri students have taken to Twitter to voice their displeasure at Dr. Brigham’s departure, calling him “ the nicest guy,” and their favorite professor.

Dr. Brigham did not return Campus Reform’s phone call request for confirmation of his resignation.

Shaking my head...


The more I see this kind of thing happening, the more I am getting the impression that the students who talk about needing safe spaces and feeling unsafe, don't know what being unsafe actually is.

   
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Well technically Mussolini's Fascists first had brown shirts...


Technically sure, but realistically almost no one means that when they refer to others in such a manner.

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 Hordini wrote:
 whembly wrote:
No worries.

Also... the SJW agitators claimed another scalp:
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6971
Mizzou professor resigns following outrage over his refusal to cancel exam

“If you don’t feel safe coming to class, then don’t come to class,” Dr. Brigham told his students. “I will be there, and there will be an exam administered in our class.”

Dr. Dale Brigham, considered one of the most beloved professors at the University of Missouri, has been forced to resign after initially refusing to cancel an exam for students who claimed to feel “unsafe.”

“If you don’t feel safe coming to class, then don’t come to class,” Dr. Brigham told his students. “I will be there, and there will be an exam administered in our class,” he continued, imploring his students to stand up to the bullies on campus. “If you give into bullies, they win. The only way bullies are defeated is by standing up to them.”


Dr. Brigham was sharply criticized in the media for requiring his students to attend class and take their exam. Salon ran a story with the headline “White Missouri professor shames black students for heeding violent threats.”The Washington Post featured similar coverage of “a white professor” who “challenged his students to come to class.”

Those upset with Dr. Brigham’s decision to hold class took to Twitter calling for Brigham to be fired and calling him “a failure as a human being.”

Under intense pressure, Dr. Brigham has both cancelled the exam and resigned from the university, according to screenshots posted online of an email from Dr. Brigham to his students.

“The exam is cancelled. Our students will be able to take the exam at an alternate date with no loss of points,” Dr. Brigham told students. “No one will have to come to class today. And, I am resigning my position.

One University of Missouri student told Campus Reform that Dr. Brigham, who he called “one of the most beloved professors at Mizzou,” was forced to resign.

“His class was one of the most popular at Mizzou and he was the friendliest teacher I've ever had. It's a shame that he's leaving while Melissa Click stays,” the student continued. The student also told Campus Reform that campus was open and classes were being held, but “false KKK threats” caused a “panic” among students.

Many Missouri students have taken to Twitter to voice their displeasure at Dr. Brigham’s departure, calling him “ the nicest guy,” and their favorite professor.

Dr. Brigham did not return Campus Reform’s phone call request for confirmation of his resignation.

Shaking my head...


The more I see this kind of thing happening, the more I am getting the impression that the students who talk about needing safe spaces and feeling unsafe, don't know what being unsafe actually is.



That university isn't worth a fart in a hurricane.

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/11/us/university-of-missouri-racism-protest/index.html

One person that made threads arrested, haven't seen an actual news source that backs up that the professor resigned.

Edit: never mind, found it.

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 Frazzled wrote:
Boy scouts aslo wear brown. Girl Scouts where green. Girl Scouts rule!

Frazzled has brown hawaiian shirts. But he also has red, white, and blue hawaiian shirts. America Hurr!*

*Frazzled has A LOT of hawaiian shirts...


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 d-usa wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/11/us/university-of-missouri-racism-protest/index.html

One person that made threads arrested, haven't seen an actual news source that backs up that the professor resigned.

Edit: never mind, found it.

"Threats" you mean.

He's not a Mizzou student... just some idiot.

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Meanwhile, the student association president fesses up to lying about KKK involvement:

http://krcgtv.com/news/local/missouri-student-association-president-apologizes-for-sharing-false-information

What the heck is with the people on that campus? I have heard this situation described as Orwellian, and I believe it.
   
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Boy scouts aslo wear brown.

Khaki =/= brown.


 
   
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Nah, boy-scouts are definitely nazis. They're the Hitler youth, just American.

(I joke, of course, else I'd be a nazi )

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So.... when does Head resign? I'd say lying was worse than some vague lack of concern for 8% of the student body.

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As if thing weren't already exciting enough two teens were arrested for (allegedly) making terroristic threats in response to the protests.

Apparently the KKK was also on campus at some point, so good times going on there.

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