New GW Specialist Studio - Including LOTR, Epic, BB, BFG - Small scale Warlord Titan by FW (one-off)

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**CragHack**

I'm sooo hyped about this! (if that's really what's going to happen). Wanted to try BFG for years, but just couldn't due to skyhigh ebay prices and a general lack of interest in my lgs (because it was oop, no longer supported, blablabla, etc, etc)

**xttz**

Silent Puffin? wrote:

I don't expect plastics as they are simply too expensive to produce. If there are new 'Specalist games' models I don't expect that there will be many and they will be resin. What I think will probably happen is that the rules will appear officially online (probably paid for) with minor updates, FW will dig out the surviving masters and re-release old models and that's about it. In other words the cheapest possible option.

The cost of plastics is essentially tied to the size of the production runs. I could plausibly see them doing high-run core sets (such as Epic infantry or common tanks like Rhino variants) on plastic sprues; these are the sort of kits you need to buy multiple boxes of to start an army. Smaller run products like super-heavies and Titans would be done in FW resin.

**H.B.M.C.**

Yeah, this is real.

**Mr. Burning**

"studio of Dreams and Rainbows"

This is GW. I don't buy it.

**Jehan-reznor**

Mr. Burning wrote:
"studio of Dreams and Rainbows"

This is GW. I don't buy it.

The rainbow marines will return!

**Mr. Burning**

'Sister Sin' is making sure that will never happen.

**Mymearan**

Silent Puffin? wrote:
Mymearan wrote:

- Would SO play Epic. Love the idea of 40k-scale battles in a miniature scale that actually makes sense.

There is nothing stopping you playing it now. The rules are easily found online and if you pick Marines/Orks/Guard then its not all that expensive, especially with third party stuff such as:

My club plays more Epic than anything else.

I'm already running a dead game (Necromunda) all the while playing 40k, AoS, Deadzone and soon Dropfleet and maybe Bolt Action... so I don't think I could muster the will (or indeed the interest) to resurrect another one at the club :-) People simply aren't interested in starting new games, especially ones that aren't supported. But if they re-released it and people were excited for it, I would jump on.

**Paradigm**

In theory, this is great. More support for LotR is nice (if very, very late), but the price, as always, has to be considered. I'd love to start a Necromunda or Mordheim band up, but my gut feeling says it'd be far easier on the wallet to use the fan editions online and source the minis from Reaper/Hasslefree/Heresy ect.

So while I am hopeful, I am not optimistic..

**Kid_Kyoto**

AlexHolker wrote:
Silent Puffin? wrote:
I don't expect plastics as they are simply too expensive to produce.

If nothing else, it would be foolish not to make a House Cawdor/Redemptionist plastic kit - it doesn't even matter whether or not they're popular for Necromunda, because zealous Emperor-worshippers rising up to go kill some xenos/heretics/witches are a great fit for 40K too.

It would be foolish not to re-release them as Fraternis Militia for the SoB.

It would be foolish not to re-release the (FANTASTIC) redemptionist priests as IG priests.

It would be foolish not to re-release the pit slaves as an Adeptus Mech unit.

It would be foolish not to re-release the Enforces as Inquisition Henchmen.

It would be foolish not to re-release some of the gangs as IG conscripts or vets.

There's a lot of foolishness about how GW has handled the Necromunda line.

**RiTides**

Well, it's great to see that this is not a hoax (with GW facebook pages confirming it both in Aus and the US now!). I just wish we knew more details... but if that is what the manager training is about tomorrow in the US, that could mean more is forthcoming soon:

judgedoug wrote:
Hey everyone,

didn't know if I should start a new post on this, but I do not know if it's AoS, HH, or 40k related.

1. Before AoS was released, all GW reps had to spend a few days training on the new product.
2. Last week, all GW reps had to spend a few days training on the Betrayal at Calth.
3. My source (check my rumor tracking for my accuracy rating btw) has informed me that GW reps are going to spend several days next week training for something new. I do not know if it is a big supplement or what system it is for, just that the only time the GW reps go to training in the last year have been only to learn and demo AoS and to learn and demo Horus Heresy. This is the third time they are going for training to learn and demo something, and I do not know what it is.

Mods, feel free to roll this into another topic if it is more appropriate.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Correction: new training for GW reps is THIS FRIDAY.

**Tamereth**

Has somebody posted my wishlist online and it's become a rumour?

If there was one way for GW to get me spending big bucks on them again it was to re-release BFG or Epic or Necromunda.
All three at once....... I need to start working more overtime.

I must have become jaded over the years, as I expect GW to find a way to screw this up. Either AoS the rules, or change the scale of the models. More than likely they will price this to high heaven or make it a ltd edition that sells out to ebay scalpers while only a pre-order.

Please let this not be a hoax.

**ORicK**

overtyrant wrote:
I wonder if this has anything to do with that Matt (can't remember his name) fellow moving from Mantic to GW? Also not sure why everyone is getting excited about BB all everyone did in that game was cage cage cage, they may of 1 to themselves they won't cage but before the end of the first half that's what they would be doing.

That is what i personally like about Blood Bowl. Blood Bowl is, just like the sport Rugby/Football, for a big part about caging and avoiding being tackled.
The BB alternatives we have are different degrees more toward freefight and normal skirmish, but with a ball.
If i want to play skirmish game, i play a skirmish game. If i want to play a fantasy football game, i play Blood Bowl. IMO it still is the "best-of-breed" in this category.

Other, IMO, best-of-breed, are/were Epic, Warmaster, Firestorm Armada.

In 28mm skirmish i am still looking for something that i find good.
Which is another thing as if i find a game fun to play.
I have and play a lot of games that are enough fun, but i would never call them good, some i might call good enough ;-)

**RiTides**

If it were a hoax, a whoooole bunch of GW store managers would be getting fired for enthusiastically posting it / promoting it on their store facebook pages

It's definitely legit... the question is, what is there to it? Hopefully the training really is regarding this, and GW managers will be armed with some actual info on what it entails soon...

I am guessing just old model re-releases for most of these ranges, and making the rules available somehow, but I think it'd be overly optimistic to hope for updates to them.

**Morathi's Darkest Sin**

My local GW hasn't heard anything yet, but he noted it is early in the day.

**zedmeister**

What the?! Is this?! I'm confused. I can't seem to take this seriously...

BFG and Epic returning? Has GW come to its senses?

This sounds too good to be true

**Kavish**

I live in Belconnen (about 5 mins from the GW that made the poster) and I can confirm this is legit. How it is implemented is of course yet to be seen. Either way, exciting times! I'd be peeved if I'd just bought piles of (really expensive) BFG models on eBay as a lot of the local guys have been doing.

**Mymearan**

I doubt they would do all these games at once. They would probably trickle them out over a few years, unless they only plan to re-release old stuff.

**Tamereth**

RiTides wrote:
If it were a hoax, a whoooole bunch of GW store managers would be getting fired for enthusiastically posting it / promoting it on their store facebook pages

It's definitely legit... the question is, what is there to it? Hopefully the training really is regarding this, and GW managers will be armed with some actual info on what it entails soon...

I am guessing just old model re-releases for most of these ranges, and making the rules available somehow, but I think it'd be overly optimistic to hope for updates to them.

A re-release of the old models would be good enough for me. Especially as they would most likely be in resin, anyone with large metal BFG ships will know why that's a bonus. Also anything that means my existing armies for these games don't get invalidated.

It would be great to see new models coming out, even if it was just new starter sets or a single release for each game each month. Plastic multipart gangs for necromunda, or new epic titans in the style of the forge world models would be top of my wish list.

**ORicK**

It does sound too good te be true.
But i really really hope it is...

My alltime wish was a campaign system combining BFG, Epic and 40k. So i wrote one with some international help.
And then GW cancelled both BFG and Epic, so many (potential) players sold part of their BFG/Epic stuff, because there was no future in it.

But as Spartan games has Firestorm Armada and Planetfall, has HALO Fleet Battles and will get HALO ground warfare next yer, Dropzone Commander gets Dropfleet Commander...

It is clear that there is a market for these two levels of wargame. I AM a market for these...
I hope GW will return to this market.

**kaiserjez**

This could explain why a guy I know who works for Forge World told me to keep an eye on their site. I thought it would be because of bundle deals for Calth but it could be this.

**zedmeister**

If this is true, I wonder why the sudden change? Is this a "Lob EVERYTHING at the market and we'll see what sticks and sells..." attempt to reverse a decline? AoS not doing as well as they hoped? Cash being invested back into the company?

**Mymearan**

I doubt this is a reaction to AoS sales, these things require planning long in advance of any announcement. We also don't have any idea what form it will take. A slow drip of brand new editions in board game format? Re-releases of old models? What? It'll be very interesting for sure.

**UNCLEBADTOUCH**

If they want a cash cow you just release epic as "siege of the emperors palace" plastic core marine models, plastic scenery and some plastic Titans. Ding ding ding we have a winner. Still not sold on the rumour with how the info was released, essentially a major restructuring (involving a licensed product as well) being announced via store Facebook? I still feel that if this is true someone's getting fired for jumping the gun.

**zedmeister**

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Still not sold on the rumour with how the info was released, essentially a major restructuring (involving a licensed product as well) being announced via store Facebook? I still feel that if this is true someone's getting fired for jumping the gun.

Agreed - reminds me of the big rush of rumours a few years ago when several implausable rumours appeared at once. When that all died down, everyone reckoned that those rumours were an attempt at flusing out leakers. They managed to flush out several who all leaked the rumours they were told

**Paradigm**

I do wonder if this has anything to do with New Line and the LotR license. Given how strict they've been with the terms of the license in the past (there were reports of they insisting GW scrap the Smaug they had made and do it again in a 'proper' scale') they could well have taken issue with the fact that GW renewed the rights but have done sod all with them for the better part of a year.

So if NL told them to get their act together, and GW decided they might as well spin it off into this. Give LotR some token support, while spinning it so they look like saviours of all these beloved game systems and hope that we all forget it was GW that killed them in the first place...

**Mymearan**

Well it was also GW who created them in the first place... so it evens out I guess?

**Morathi's Darkest Sin**

Aye, all I know is, if epic and necromunda figs return at more affordable prices, my wallet will be taking a hit.

**Silent Puffin?**

Paradigm wrote:
I do wonder if this has anything to do with New Line and the LotR license.

This is highly likely, I think that GW included all the other games just to see what would happen (and to tie in with the various computer games that are being released).

xttz wrote:

The cost of plastics is essentially tied to the size of the production runs.

I fully expect GW to put as little money as possible into the revamped SGs. That means resin.

The mostly likely scenario for plastics would be plastic 'gangers' due to the significant 40K overlap and/or some kind of limited release boardgame.

**Herzlos**

Wulfson_40K wrote:
I don't know if that was posted yet but, regarding that matter, this is apparently from an US GW: https://www.facebook.com/GWFreewayV/posts/929528593794637?_fb_noscript=1

So it appears it's not just the guys on the other side of the world going crazy!

That's just worded in that the Specialist Games department WILL have Forgeworld and LOTR/Hobbit. There's hints at other specialist games but no actual confirmation. I wonder if GW Aus has got the wrong end of the stick?

Maybe this is just a marketting ploy to test out the reaction to see if they should reprint anything?

**ORicK**

Hahaha... yes it will cost us money...

Especially because i want to be able to play every army on any level (BFG, Epic, 40k)