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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Cadian Troopers.
Heavy Weapon Teams.
Command Squad.

The command squad is fine and doesn't need touching, ditto the Catachan one. They're only a few years old and pretty up to scratch with the newer stuff.

 Swastakowey wrote:
I am 99% certain all factions will be ignored bar Cadians and maybe Catachans.

5th saw them reduced. 6th saw them removed almost entirely. 7th will see them gone for good.

I will be amazed if they have more than the two C's in there. I will be even more amazed if they add more fluff on the other factions than the meager 2 pages they have in the current one.

There is no way we are getting new Guardsmen for the other regiments. It's more likely the ones we barely have will be done away with I think.

Sad but true - the current codex is horribly dull in terms of actually allowing Guard players to represent what is the most diverse fighting force in the Imperium - far more so than slightly different coloured Marines - even those who ride sleighs..............

The new kits are going to be rough riders as Cadians riding little bicycles with a little basket and a bow in the front, as well as a brand new basilisk command tank kit, which is the same as the old kit with a command sprue thrown in.

Oh, and a brand new plastic Sergeant Kell model, but no creed.

And Cata-what now? More like squata-what now.



But seriously, I'd start an armoured company if it becomes a thing in the new codex. Don't have to order that book since the pound is more than two to one Canadian right now...

 ImAGeek wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Cadian Troopers.
Heavy Weapon Teams.
Command Squad.

The command squad is fine and doesn't need touching, ditto the Catachan one. They're only a few years old and pretty up to scratch with the newer stuff.

It only had 1 of each special weapon and no heavy weapon.

None of the IG kits are up to the standards of say Marine or Empire kits as far as including all options.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Cadian Troopers.
Heavy Weapon Teams.
Command Squad.

The command squad is fine and doesn't need touching, ditto the Catachan one. They're only a few years old and pretty up to scratch with the newer stuff.

It only had 1 of each special weapon and no heavy weapon.

None of the IG kits are up to the standards of say Marine or Empire kits as far as including all options.

I guess. Design wise though they're fine and I doubt GW will redo them to give more options, knowing them.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Cadian Troopers.
Heavy Weapon Teams.
Command Squad.

The command squad is fine and doesn't need touching, ditto the Catachan one. They're only a few years old and pretty up to scratch with the newer stuff.

It only had 1 of each special weapon and no heavy weapon.

None of the IG kits are up to the standards of say Marine or Empire kits as far as including all options.

Space Marine Command Squad only comes with 1 plas/melta/flamer.

Tactical Squads only have the worst heavy weapon we have.

Bikes come with no special weapons...

Pretty much everyone comes with low options. It'd be nice if IG got a veteran kit with two of each special, like the Sternguard box.

So soon mew!

 ultimentra wrote:
>Baneblades in the codex

Yea I'm not going to be that guy to call it straight up lies/wishlisting, but I'm going to call it... highly optimistic

Will the Rough Riders use Lasgun like in the late 3rd Edition? and will they gain access to carapace armor?

 Crazyterran wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Cadian Troopers.
Heavy Weapon Teams.
Command Squad.

The command squad is fine and doesn't need touching, ditto the Catachan one. They're only a few years old and pretty up to scratch with the newer stuff.

It only had 1 of each special weapon and no heavy weapon.

None of the IG kits are up to the standards of say Marine or Empire kits as far as including all options.

Space Marine Command Squad only comes with 1 plas/melta/flamer.

Tactical Squads only have the worst heavy weapon we have.

Bikes come with no special weapons...

I dunno, Missile Launchers aren't that bad in an infantry heavy Raven Guard force. I've been using an all ML Devastator Squad and it's been kinda interesting combined with the Scout bonus from the Pinion Battle Company.

As for the Command Squad and Bikes? Both of those are still older kits. I'm honestly surprised they still sell the Command Squad.

Pretty much everyone comes with low options. It'd be nice if IG got a veteran kit with two of each special, like the Sternguard box.

Calling it now, $50 Veteran Guardsman kit with shotguns, two of each special, a Heavy Flamer, and a Heavy Bolter.

You asked for it.

maceria wrote:

 RedFox wrote:
Are you guys still speculating over a BoLS rumor or has anyone else with more credibility said anything new ?

Well, a little bird told me that there will be:

-Return of some of our characters and artillery, with new kits.
-A new rule to replicate lumbering behemoth: ordnance doesn't cause snapfire, and the turret can target independent of the hull/sponson weapons!
-Build your own regiment system!
-That sill space army name will be replaced with a proper name that signifies the MIGHT OF THE IMPERIUM.
-VenDettas
-Plastic RRs, with awesome rules.
-Banewolf will be torrent.

Spoiler:

By "a little bird told me" I mean I'm making it up to see if anyone falls for it, and questing to have a worse rumor tracking score than BoLS.

One rule makes multiple-turret combat a reality!!!! meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww~



And does 'Build your own regiment system' means? Is it possible to make all-cavalry regiment in the same manner as the pre-WW1 style?

Did you even read what he posted in the spoiler tag..?

I really hope he's joking, otherwise it's just kind of sad that someone would believe that...

Well just managed to stubble upon these on the GW website

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Datacards-Cadians-ENG

Thats right data cards Cadians. Not data card IG, or AM or anything like that but specifically Cadians. Does this mean Catachans will get data cards along with all of the other regiments? Or that Catachans and the others have been squatted once and for all and now it is codex Cadians!!!

 ceorron wrote:
Well just managed to stubble upon these on the GW website

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Datacards-Cadians-ENG

Thats right data cards Cadians. Not data card IG, or AM or anything like that but specifically Cadians. Does this mean Catachans will get data cards along with all of the other regiments? Or that Catachans and the others have been squatted once and for all and now it is codex Cadians!!!

It means nothing. The cards are part of the Mont'ka supplement book, which is also including as far as we currently know, a grand total of 1 lonely IG formation.

Someone over on a certain facebook page leaked the cadian relics, Volkov's cane and that pistol actually look pretty damn good.

http://imgur.com/a/e7IN7

 streetsamurai wrote:
lol, you didn't read by post it seems.

Backatcha.

The comment was "new Cadians", as a redesign. That would mean replacing 3 kits as they wouldn't keep the old design on one newer kit.

 ultimentra wrote:
Someone over on a certain facebook page leaked the cadian relics, Volkov's cane and that pistol actually look pretty damn good.

http://imgur.com/a/e7IN7

Kabe's Herald looks nice, and everything else doesn't look like they're worth taking unless free.

Holy crap, that pistol stole the old choppa rule from the Orks! Oh hell nah!

Bwahahaha that typo for the standard of the lost 113th.

They list "fearless" then put in the smoke launchers entry.

It does look fun to use though. Fearless within 18" is a hell of a drug

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Bwahahaha that typo for the standard of the lost 113th.

They list "fearless" then put in the smoke launchers entry.

It does look fun to use though. Fearless within 18" is a hell of a drug

I had no idea that my fearless units could give themselves 5+ cover once a game

Well it's seeming more and more likely we might see a new codex from what GW has been putting up.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Battlegroup-Hammerblow

 Resin Glazed Guardsman wrote:
Well it's seeming more and more likely we might see a new codex from what GW has been putting up.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Battlegroup-Hammerblow

I mentioned that on the last page along with a rules breakdown on the formation:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/670756.page#8271459

But only one person noticed and the rest continued wishlisting

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
lol, you didn't read by post it seems.

Backatcha.

The comment was "new Cadians", as a redesign. That would mean replacing 3 kits as they wouldn't keep the old design on one newer kit.

If so then the special weapons may be packed inside 'regular' cadian inf. squad?

I kind of like the hammerblow. Not bad, not broken. A nice IG sampler.

That close fire support is nice. I have many times killed a few of my own guys while trying to soften an enemy squad before charging it. I mean, they're only Guardsmen, but still best not to waste them if you don't have to.

If the Storm Troopers really do get a "DS when you want to" it would be very fitting them. No scatter makes sense too. Makes for a nice application of precision pew pew where you need it.

Banner of the Lost 113th. So much yes. Hold the line!

I find it lacking in infantry bodies for what I think it's a big chunk of points (sorry not very current on pts cost) .How are you going to secure objectives?

771$ not a small amount of cash, somebody with better knowledge about official prices can tell me if it offers a half decent discount?

M.

As is pretty much always the case, the melee relics seem fairly useless. I'll agree that Kabe's Herald is the most obviously good relic, but Standard of the Lost 13th certainly has some utility as well.

 ultimentra wrote:
Yes but we're the Guard son. We don't get nice things.

That is why IG are getting Baneblade SQUADRONS in the Codex, but they will still be so grossly overcosted that you'd never field them when IKTs are available.

 Miguelsan wrote:
How are you going to secure objectives?

Park a Baneblade on them.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Miguelsan wrote:
How are you going to secure objectives?

Park a Baneblade on them.

In addition, the rumored infantry platoon is 2-5 squads, plus command, much like the codex platoon. I wonder if the hellhammerbaneswordshadowkrump formation will allow the other platoon goodies, like SWS, HWS, and conscripts? So with that one platoon, you're looking at 3-13 scoring units of various usefulness.

I'll agree though that the GW webstore super bundle doesn't have a lot of securing bodies, but what IG player doesn't have more soon-to-be-corpses laying around?

This is all coming at an unfortunate time. Having loved IG for many years, getting back into the hobby three years back and finally putting the money into an IG force, these rumours start flying around. Not that I'm anywhere near ready to field them on the table top, but dropping £500+ into a new army over the past month is rather annoying. I was about to pick up a Baneblade and supporting rule books too…

I must admit, having built a number of Cadian vet squads (adding meltas was a pain) and checking out the Baneblade kits, they're all very dated. I'd welcome some sort of upgrades, although at the potential price hike I'm not too sure what would be the best option; £85 isn't so bad for a tank that can be effectively magnetised to perform as 8 tanks. Having them included in a codex as a LoW would be welcomed.

In theory, all of your IG will be playable under the new Codex. Some will be better, others worse, but still playable.