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2015/11/24 11:55:45
Subject: Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
Frazzled wrote: I find it interestingly old F16s could take down Russian aircraft.
It was an Su-24. The F-16 is newer (by about 8 years, IIRC) and is an air superiority fighter, while the Su-24 is an attack aircraft. All things equal, the F-16 wins in a dogfight every time.
2015/11/24 11:59:31
Subject: Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
3) -> Russian aircrafts are powered by Vodka and shielded by pure patriotism and faith in the defunct USSR. They cannot be brought down, all of this is an Illuminati conspiracy.
Hey it worked against the Fascist Hitlerites. Fortunately the running dog capilitalist Americans were powered by burgers and FRREEEEEDOM!
American bombs are powered by sheer democracy.
(Okay, maybe burgers too. And those scooters that fat people use.)
Frazzled wrote: SU-24 eh. Ok. I'm surprised they aren't using something more modern.
We're talking about the USSR Russia here.
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2015/11/24 11:59:47
Subject: Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
I predict the PKK receiving a pile of gifts from Soviet Santa on Christmas.
M.
As an aside for a country so dead set on protecting their airspace suely they are quite happy to violate Irak's airspace to bomb the Kurdish staging areas.
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2015/11/24 12:19:55
Subject: Re:Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
One pilot has chest wounds and ones beneath his helmet, so its not been confirmed. Well it probably has been, but I wasn't watching the video of the guys who found the plane.
The current circumstances seem to be that the Russian jet was flying back and forth between the two airspaces. The Turks warned them. The Russians were flying back to Syria, then they got shot down. The Turks obviously looking for whatever reason they could to do this.
The situation's been described as NATO having to baby sit its idiot cousin from the bully down the street elsewhere.
Reading about this seems to have people in this mood though oddly.
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2015/11/24 12:20:10
Subject: Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
Alex C wrote: Russia and the US are not so different, it seems we're both hungry for a piece of Turkey this time of year.
It appears we have Turkey, and a ham...
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2015/11/24 12:20:12
Subject: Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
3) -> Russian aircrafts are powered by Vodka and shielded by pure patriotism and faith in the defunct USSR. They cannot be brought down, all of this is an Illuminati conspiracy.
Hey it worked against the Fascist Hitlerites. Fortunately the running dog capilitalist Americans were powered by burgers and FRREEEEEDOM!
American bombs are powered by sheer democracy.
(Okay, maybe burgers too. And those scooters that fat people use.)
Frazzled wrote: SU-24 eh. Ok. I'm surprised they aren't using something more modern.
We're talking about the USSR Russia here.
Well there was no need to put wear and hours on newer expensive airframes, little anti air and minimal enemy fighter risk. Older planes where fine. I'd expect to see more advanced fighters deploying soon and anti air batteries. Already a gronitt? Whatever codename has a massive range to cover most of area of operations.
Now, bears swans under solid escort? And more modern fighters deployed rapidly to Syria to defend the bombers. Escalation but going to happen. Swans especially as there rare aircraft, not many in service. Tu160 was not mass produced like some.
Maybe s400 s300 batteries? Pretty potent anti air defence is anyone wants to get dumb and touch there bases.
I predict the PKK receiving a pile of gifts from Soviet Santa on Christmas.
M.
Modern model manpad missile systems would be a start ;-)
Let the Turks think twice about bombing them
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2015/11/24 12:22:58
Subject: Re:Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
Wyrmalla wrote: One pilot has chest wounds and ones beneath his helmet, so its not been confirmed. Well it probably has been, but I wasn't watching the video of the guys who found the plane.
The current circumstances seem to be that the Russian jet was flying back and forth between the two airspaces. The Turks warned them. The Russians were flying back to Syria, then they got shot down. The Turks obviously looking for whatever reason they could to do this.
The situation's been described as NATO having to baby sit its idiot cousin from the bully down the street elsewhere.
Reading about this seems to have people in this mood though oddly.
"Jahed Ahmad of the 10th Brigade in the Coast said that the two Russian crew members tried to land in their parachutes in government-held areas after they ejected, but came under fire from members of his group.
He adds that rebels shot one of the pilots, who landed dead on the ground on Tuesday.
The fate of the second pilot was not immediately known.
The group released a video showing gunmen standing around a blond pilot whose face was bruised and appeared dead."
Turkey are in for a cold winter now I bet, when Russia shuts off the gas.
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2015/11/24 12:34:08
Subject: Re:Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
Obama really going to try avoiding calling Putin.....
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2015/11/24 12:39:28
Subject: Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
Wyrmalla wrote: Meanwhile the Russians have been violating European airspace for months...
I don't think they've actually violated anyone's national airspace other than Turkey's. Just skirted around it triggering intercepts
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2015/11/24 13:02:35
Subject: Re:Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
We love what we love. Reason does not enter into it. In many ways, unwise love is the truest love. Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket. But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.
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2015/11/24 13:05:38
Subject: Re:Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
I say we nuke the bastards. The islamist Erdogan and his pigs have supported terrorists for too long, and they even have the audacity to bomb the Kurds, our allies against ISIS. All international jihadists who join ISIS do so through Turkey. Action should be taken. It should have been taken long ago, but this clearly shows who's side Turkey is on.
Iron_Captain wrote: I say we nuke the bastards. The islamist Erdogan and his pigs have supported terrorists for too long, and they even have the audacity to bomb the Kurds, our allies against ISIS. All international jihadists who join ISIS do so through Turkey. Action should be taken. It should have been taken long ago, but this clearly shows who's side Turkey is on.
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2015/11/24 13:20:09
Subject: Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
I don't like Putin, his views about homosexuals and other important society rights are too extremist for me to feel comfortable about him, but I really, REALLY, want to see him going all "HAMMER OF THE EMPEROR" on ISIS and it's supporters.
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2015/11/24 13:22:24
Subject: Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
Iron_Captain wrote: I say we nuke the bastards. The islamist Erdogan and his pigs have supported terrorists for too long, and they even have the audacity to bomb the Kurds, our allies against ISIS. All international jihadists who join ISIS do so through Turkey. Action should be taken. It should have been taken long ago, but this clearly shows who's side Turkey is on.
Yeah there own. Same as Russia. I'm tired of the dictatorial Putin supporting a tyrannical human rights abuser Assad, we know what side there on.
Iron_Captain wrote: I say we nuke the bastards. The islamist Erdogan and his pigs have supported terrorists for too long, and they even have the audacity to bomb the Kurds, our allies against ISIS. All international jihadists who join ISIS do so through Turkey. Action should be taken. It should have been taken long ago, but this clearly shows who's side Turkey is on.
Yeah there own. Same as Russia. I'm tired of the dictatorial Putin supporting a tyrannical human rights abuser Assad, we know what side there on.
Assad is a tyrannical human rights abuser, but ISIS is 100 times worse. Sometimes you have to settle for the lesser evil, and a strong leader like Assad is the only hope that there will ever be peace again in Syria. Lack of strong leaders leads to situations like in Libya.
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2015/11/24 13:32:09
Subject: Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
Iron_Captain wrote: I say we nuke the bastards. The islamist Erdogan and his pigs have supported terrorists for too long, and they even have the audacity to bomb the Kurds, our allies against ISIS. All international jihadists who join ISIS do so through Turkey. Action should be taken. It should have been taken long ago, but this clearly shows who's side Turkey is on.
Yeah there own. Same as Russia. I'm tired of the dictatorial Putin supporting a tyrannical human rights abuser Assad, we know what side there on.
Assad is a tyrannical human rights abuser, but ISIS is 100 times worse. Sometimes you have to settle for the lesser evil, and a strong leader like Assad is the only hope that there will ever be peace again in Syria. Lack of strong leaders leads to situations like in Libya.
What I think about it ? Destroy the bigger evil then stab the lesser one in the back and do whatever you want to do.
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2015/11/24 13:35:18
Subject: Russian jet shot down in Turkish/Syrian Airspace
Iron_Captain wrote: I say we nuke the bastards. The islamist Erdogan and his pigs have supported terrorists for too long, and they even have the audacity to bomb the Kurds, our allies against ISIS. All international jihadists who join ISIS do so through Turkey. Action should be taken. It should have been taken long ago, but this clearly shows who's side Turkey is on.
Yeah there own. Same as Russia. I'm tired of the dictatorial Putin supporting a tyrannical human rights abuser Assad, we know what side there on.
Assad is a tyrannical human rights abuser, but ISIS is 100 times worse. Sometimes you have to settle for the lesser evil, and a strong leader like Assad is the only hope that there will ever be peace again in Syria. Lack of strong leaders leads to situations like in Libya.
Well, that is basically what we have been using as an argument Pro Putin for Russia for years.
Not sure the verdict on the wisdom of such thinking is out yet.
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