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 Rainyday wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
But are any of the games good? (SH aside)

I am guessing none of these are really designed to 'take off', i.e, no matter how popular, they aren't games made with any intended expansions? I would assume the gameplay of Calth and EF are lackluster a bit then?

Nope! They're just intended to be self-contained games for the most part. Betrayal at Calth had an "expansion" via WD that was basically just "Buy two Betrayals at Calth and you can add Daemons in as well".

Assassinorum had a similar "expansion" of a WD article with rules on switching out the chaos lord for a demon prince in case you have one just lying around. I wouldn't be surprised if a month after release there was a page of rules in WD to add in a lictor or something.

Assassinorum is nice because it's a cooperative multiplayer board game, the kind that's easy to get non-40k board gamers to play, but aside from the rooms being randomized, it's basically the same every time. It's a shame GW never support their board games post-release because it really could use some expansions and they've had plenty of opportunities to make relevant ones. When Kau'yon came out they could have easily released a Tau expansion based on the mission to kill one of the tau leaders. A few drones, maybe some stealth suits, a new plastic sculpt of a Tau leader, and new tau-ish room tiles for the game, throw it in a box, and call it an expansion.

i actually would prefer Ymargl Genestealers. though i suspect headswaps will be quite easy

 streamdragon wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:Photos by Scanner - SpikeyBits Forum
>pics snipped<

http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?21941-Genestealer-Cult-vs-Deathwatch-Roundup

Warhams-77 wrote:Scanner - SpikeyBits Forum
>more pics snipped<

Can someone rehost to imgur or something for the work blocked? Spikeybits is blocked :(

You're welcome.

So if they are all together they will at least have stealth and shrouded the first turn...
I certainly hope that they do something to help place them in other armies.. I've already house ruled that our players can put them in as a unit upgrade... cuz it just makes sense.

I'm a tad disappointed with the special ammo rules. The rules (albeit apocalypse) in Damnos suggested they pick their targets before battle and get ammo to deal with that enemy. Anti RP ammo for instance.

A White-Scars thunderhawk touches down at a super secret Deathwatch base. Two watch commanders wait patiently on the pad.

The ramp lowers and a marine roars out on a bike.

'Well met Battle Brother. Please leave your combat bike in the thunderhawk for your chapter to return to its armoury. You won't be needing it.'

The whitescar's expression hardens.

'Brother, we don't field bikes here in the deathwatch. We board spacehulks and infiltrate xeno filled labyrinths. You need to be on foot to stay with your comrades'

A cold wind whistles across the pad, stirring the white armoured astartes' topknot. His expression remains obstinate and unyielding.

'I'm sorry brother, but those are the rules. The deathwatch is a strict military brotherhood. we don't allow everyone to just do as they please.'

A dark angel flies through the door of the facility, landing roughly at the feet of the watch commanders. A drunk space wolf staggers onto the pad, swigging mead.

'Cahmon denya sisseh' roars the wolf , his native fenrisian words lost on all present. 'Ahnoo twas ye that dranned mah favrit serfav his blude!'

As the dark angel picked himself up and tried to get his hood out of his eyes, fair haired marine peeks around the door, wiping red fluid from his mouth.

Whilst the dark angel adjusts the rope belt, the space wolf flings his tankard at the son of caliban, spilling beer all over his robes. The Dark angel responds by uppercutting the wolf, the two of them falling to the floor in a mad brawl.

'As my colleague was saying' continued a Watch Commander ' You'll need to surrender your bike. Otherwise you will be returned to your chapter'

The marine seemed to consider this for a moment, then idled his bike forward, closer to the Commander. He leaned in to speak, so close that his moustache tickled the ear of the Officer. He spoke quietly, his voice barely a whisper.

'Have to catch me first.'

The bike exploded into life as the whitescar gunned the throttle, raising up on the rear wheel and shooting straight through the facility door.

Exalted Angel, lol

The bike dude would be okay to add Thunderwolf ICs to get hit and run and skilled rider.

So have we learned how to bring these guys in 40k? Or is that the next WD?

Requizen wrote:
So have we learned how to bring these guys in 40k? Or is that the next WD?

Read upwards, the datasheets are all in this thread

 Slinky wrote:

Requizen wrote:
So have we learned how to bring these guys in 40k? Or is that the next WD?

Read upwards, the datasheets are all in this thread

We don't know force org or anything though. Right now, they're in Inquisition faction?

Inq only has HQ and Elites though.

 pretre wrote:

 Slinky wrote:

Requizen wrote:
So have we learned how to bring these guys in 40k? Or is that the next WD?

Read upwards, the datasheets are all in this thread

We don't know force org or anything though. Right now, they're in Inquisition faction?

Inq only has HQ and Elites though.

They are their own faction, Deathwatch, they have 1 formation of taking all 11 of them, or you can just take any normal formation that you can fill with them. Cassius and the librarian are HQ, the biker is fast attack, the termiantor and 2 assault marines are all seperate elites choices and the remaining 5 are squad donatus, which is a troops choice.

 M0ff3l wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Slinky wrote:

Requizen wrote:
So have we learned how to bring these guys in 40k? Or is that the next WD?

Read upwards, the datasheets are all in this thread

We don't know force org or anything though. Right now, they're in Inquisition faction?

Inq only has HQ and Elites though.

They are their own faction, Deathwatch, they have 1 formation of taking all 11 of them, or you can just take any normal formation that you can fill with them. Cassius and the librarian are HQ, the biker is fast attack, the termiantor and 2 assault marines are all seperate elites choices and the remaining 5 are squad donatus, which is a troops choice.

Is that backed up by the WD or are you guessing? Because that would mean you can only take an allied detachment since there's only one troops choice.

Yes technically it looks like you could make an Allied Detachment out of them... but what Faction are they? Is that symbol Inq?

Nothing to stop you taking multiples of the troop choice though, presumably?

I'm betting that the WD will have a unique Death Watch CAD sort of thingy.

Is that backed up by the WD or are you guessing? Because that would mean you can only take an allied detachment since there's only one troops choice.

That is backed up by the WD, and yes its either allied detachment or the formation as it stands.

Requizen wrote:Yes technically it looks like you could make an Allied Detachment out of them... but what Faction are they? Is that symbol Inq?

They are a new faction called Deathwatch, that symbol is the deathwatch symbol (a bit different from the inquisition symbol)



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 Slinky wrote:
Nothing to stop you taking multiples of the troop choice though, presumably?

All the characters in the troops choice squad are unique, so you can only take it once.

@Pretre There has not been a DW detachment in one of the leaked pages yet. We got rules for allying them into other armies. They are a faction of their own. They do not use the Inquisition symbol.

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Scanner on the Spikey Bits forum updated an earlier post - no detachment yet - but better pics of the boardgame pages and WD cover&back cover










Source: http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?21941-Genestealer-Cult-vs-Deathwatch-Roundup&p=237934&viewfull=1#post237934

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but it looks like March 5th is the release date.

http://cdn.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/deathwatch-prices.jpg

The GC miniatures will looking fantastic on a tabletop battlefield. Especially on grey city ruin tables and the like, or jungles. I cannot wait playing 40k with them again.

Rules garbage or not, these minis all look fantastic!

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From Atia

Oh and Blasting charges

They look quite good.

Hit and Run nids? Welp, Time to get the bugspray

New Genestealers combined with Ymgarls kit later this year? With all the changes to their appearance this looks likely - especially after Tau got updated kits.

 Slinky wrote:
Nothing to stop you taking multiples of the troop choice though, presumably?

The models in the troop choice have the 'Unique' rule.

2nd Ed stats - from Kid Kyoto's Black Codex retro review

Those acolytes (cost dependant) are almost better than codex stealers.
Same save, 4 attacks on the charge, rending, fearless and assault grenades

YMDC question: 3 CCWs/pistols, do you get +2 attacks?

Warhams-77 wrote:
2nd Ed stats - from Kid Kyoto's Black Codex retro review

Spoiler:

Oh man, that brings back memories