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dan2026 wrote: Checking Elements prices you don't seem to save that much when you factor in shipping.
And you need to spend £80 to qualify for free shipping.
Which is twice as much as Wayland.
Which is irrelevant when discussing a product that will cost £80 after the discount...
Element Games is best if you're ordering enough to get their free shipping, otherwise go with Darksphere. Wayland are comical, total lottery whether you get great service or end up waiting weeks. EDIT: Not tried 4TK, what's their shipping like cost-wise?
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shade1313 wrote: I hadn't noticed the MeltaFist for the Salamander before. Interesting.
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I thought it was a chainfist...
Heavy flamer for the right hand, MeltaFist on the left...he is clearly the most Salamandery Salamander to ever Salamander.
No, wait, he'd need a thunder hammer clutched in his MeltaFist for that.
So close...so close.
Then a Storm shield in the flamer hand... and possibly a cape made of dragon scales...
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dan2026 wrote: Checking Elements prices you don't seem to save that much when you factor in shipping.
And you need to spend £80 to qualify for free shipping.
Which is twice as much as Wayland.
Which is irrelevant when discussing a product that will cost £80 after the discount...
Element Games is best if you're ordering enough to get their free shipping, otherwise go with Darksphere. Wayland are comical, total lottery whether you get great service or end up waiting weeks. EDIT: Not tried 4TK, what's their shipping like cost-wise?
they dont seem to have free shipping at all looks like it will be ds or elements then
I know this has been discussed before. But it would seem thathat GW is saying that you don't need to roll to hit to use Psychic Scream. Otherwise Big Daddy can't use his own power.
Psychic Scream is a Tyranid nova power that has nothing to do with the Patriarch.
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I tend to go with Dark Sphere if I'm going in to London and can arrange to collect my order from their shop (super cheap), or Element / 4TK if not. Wayland are only really worthwhile if they have a sale or promotion on -- I pretty much never buy GW stuff from them though. And of course Wayland have become less reliable in terms of shipping stuff out (they took one order from me in mid-November that included some Otherworld minis intended for my son's Xmas present... and which they eventually acknowledged in mid Jan was never going to ship at all).
I know this has been discussed before. But it would seem thathat GW is saying that you don't need to roll to hit to use Psychic Scream. Otherwise Big Daddy can't use his own power.
Psychic Scream is a Tyranid nova power that has nothing to do with the Patriarch.
you know perfectly well he meant psychic shriek, you don't have to prove people that you know the names of psychic powers better than them on the internet...
Yodhrin wrote: Where are people thinking the best deal for the UK will be, Darksphere?
Probably though I've found that they and wayland kinda even out after shipping.
Triple helix and firestorm are about the same but I have not ordered from them
2boxes limit also
Element - free shipping and 15-20% off.
same as wayland. free shiping over 40,
Except Element is next day delivery. Wayland is next month.
I know this has been discussed before. But it would seem thathat GW is saying that you don't need to roll to hit to use Psychic Scream. Otherwise Big Daddy can't use his own power.
Psychic Scream is a Tyranid nova power that has nothing to do with the Patriarch.
you know perfectly well he meant psychic shriek, you don't have to prove people that you know the names of psychic powers better than them on the internet...
A power that it doesn't have and a power that it can't use. GW quality no matter which way you slice it
8000 points of XI Legion the Space Vagabonds, they can adapt their tactics to represent any and every Legion and Chapter as needed because they were created by the Emperor to be the ultimate tactical power. They have faked their disappearance in order to infiltrate every part of the conflicts in the galaxy.
8000 points of Tau/Craftworld Eldar/Necron because the Space Vagabonds can also emulate their wargear and tactics.
Victories: ALL
Losses: NONE (My armies have the psychic ability to conjure a cataclysmic storm whenever they are about to lose. This allows the Space Vagabonds to teleport away while releasing power waves that destroys the battlefield and so every battle is a victory)
Sabet wrote:PS: Vhalyar, that signature makes you look like a band wagoner and a very bad loser
Yodhrin wrote: Where are people thinking the best deal for the UK will be, Darksphere?
Probably though I've found that they and wayland kinda even out after shipping.
Triple helix and firestorm are about the same but I have not ordered from them
2boxes limit also
Element - free shipping and 15-20% off.
same as wayland. free shiping over 40,
Except Element is next day delivery. Wayland is next month.
They are that good? Damn my bad luck must have been an aberration?
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It's entirely relevant, as one of the big deal models of the box is broken in 40k and one of the purposes of the box is to be used in 40k.
8000 points of XI Legion the Space Vagabonds, they can adapt their tactics to represent any and every Legion and Chapter as needed because they were created by the Emperor to be the ultimate tactical power. They have faked their disappearance in order to infiltrate every part of the conflicts in the galaxy.
8000 points of Tau/Craftworld Eldar/Necron because the Space Vagabonds can also emulate their wargear and tactics.
Victories: ALL
Losses: NONE (My armies have the psychic ability to conjure a cataclysmic storm whenever they are about to lose. This allows the Space Vagabonds to teleport away while releasing power waves that destroys the battlefield and so every battle is a victory)
Sabet wrote:PS: Vhalyar, that signature makes you look like a band wagoner and a very bad loser
Vhalyar wrote: It's entirely relevant, as one of the big deal models of the box is broken in 40k and one of the purposes of the box is to be used in 40k.
This thread is in the news and rumors section of the forum. Also the thread is called Deathwatch Overkill which is a board game first, 40k models second. If you really feel this forum needs another 5-10 page discussion about psychic shriek I encourage you to make a thread in the 40k You Make Da Call section, thank you.
If this is a problem then a mod will certainly step in and kindly ask us to take it over there; until then I suggest that you PM me if you want to keep discussing that particular line of thought and here we can stay on the topic of DW Overkill and the associated White Dwarf content
8000 points of XI Legion the Space Vagabonds, they can adapt their tactics to represent any and every Legion and Chapter as needed because they were created by the Emperor to be the ultimate tactical power. They have faked their disappearance in order to infiltrate every part of the conflicts in the galaxy.
8000 points of Tau/Craftworld Eldar/Necron because the Space Vagabonds can also emulate their wargear and tactics.
Victories: ALL
Losses: NONE (My armies have the psychic ability to conjure a cataclysmic storm whenever they are about to lose. This allows the Space Vagabonds to teleport away while releasing power waves that destroys the battlefield and so every battle is a victory)
Sabet wrote:PS: Vhalyar, that signature makes you look like a band wagoner and a very bad loser
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Vhalyar wrote: It's entirely relevant, as one of the big deal models of the box is broken in 40k and one of the purposes of the box is to be used in 40k.
There is more to the Telepathy discipline that only Psychic Shriek, like Shrouding and Invisibility. It can't use the primaris power, but that hardly means it is "broken".
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One thing to remember, we haven't seen any rules for the Familiers yet. I'm quite interested to see what they do and how they work. If they have a BS then maybe they're the ones that can fire the Shriek, getting round any problem regarding Witchfires without profiles.
Interesting about the sprues is, that the models are quiet mixed. I guess it seems not probable to get a new supplement "Genestealer Cults" any time soon, otherwise the models would have been separated by type in order to repack the sprues for individual sale.
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MasterOfGaunts wrote: Interesting about the sprues is, that the models are quiet mixed. I guess it seems not probable to get a new supplement "Genestealer Cults" any time soon, otherwise the models would have been seperated by type in order to repack the sprues for individual sale.
Unless they might do something like, say, a "Genestealer Cult" formation boxed set.
DarkStarSabre wrote: That's....very interesting. Their strange not quite snap fit nature looks like it'll be conversion heaven for those wanting to do multiple units - just a SM bits box needed to go nuts.
I want to see the Stealer Cult stuff though. Might be in luck with a sale so may have money- was going to put a huge chunk to 30k shinies but part of me SO wants to do a Stealer Cult....
On the space marine side, they're nearly Space Hulk style snapfits, with the two very important differences -- the shoulder pads appear to have been separated, which makes the models far more useful (or much less work) for conversion, and some of the weapon hands seem to be separate, which is a wonderful thing. It's kinda monopose multipart
The positives about this are that this is a LOT easier for people who aren't into fiddly bits to assemble, especially on matching up arms; and that it will also mean less time to prep, both of which are good things. Plus, fixed poses generally mean getting some nice poses without much work in exchange for the loss of flexibility. In a small box set, I would prefer the flexibility, but in a big box set, this is nice, because realistically, I'm unlikely to have more than a couple of sets of these models anyhow (famous last words).
As with many others, I can't wait to see the Cult sprues Though personally, I'm a space marine junkie, so I have no problem with seeing these leaks first
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There's a lot of value if you're a fan of SM, GSC, and board games.
Using American pricing: $165 for 50 minis, is $3.30 per mini, with essentially a free board game tossed in.
If you're not a fan of SM, and only want the GSC then I'm sure you'll be able to find those sprues on ebay for a cheaper price, and vice versa. If you're not a fan of all 3 aspects, then don't bother.
Yodhrin wrote: Where are people thinking the best deal for the UK will be, Darksphere?
Probably though I've found that they and wayland kinda even out after shipping.
Triple helix and firestorm are about the same but I have not ordered from them
2boxes limit also
Element - free shipping and 15-20% off.
same as wayland. free shiping over 40,
Except Element is next day delivery. Wayland is next month.
They are that good? Damn my bad luck must have been an aberration?
Every other tweet Element post is someone saying "Wow, great service! I ordered yesterday and it arrived today!" as if Element deliver their stuff personally. Never a thanks for the hard working Royal Mail grunt who turns up at 5 to manually fill his van with tons of toy soldiers! Really irks me that they take full credit
Edit - too to to. Doh.
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Vhalyar wrote:If this is a problem then a mod will certainly step in and kindly ask us to take it over there; until then I suggest that you PM me if you want to keep discussing that particular line of thought and here we can stay on the topic of DW Overkill and the associated White Dwarf content
reds8n wrote:take it over there
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MasterOfGaunts wrote: Interesting about the sprues is, that the models are quiet mixed. I guess it seems not probable to get a new supplement "Genestealer Cults" any time soon, otherwise the models would have been separated by type in order to repack the sprues for individual sale.
Per Atia on B&C, both factions will get full rulesets later this year.
Plastic molds don't cost them anywhere near what they used to. I'm sure this game (these sprues) will be nicely profitable for GW, and then they'll release regular kits later this year with different sprues (with extra stuff on them so we'll want to have them).
Yodhrin wrote: Where are people thinking the best deal for the UK will be, Darksphere?
Probably though I've found that they and wayland kinda even out after shipping.
Triple helix and firestorm are about the same but I have not ordered from them
2boxes limit also
Element - free shipping and 15-20% off.
same as wayland. free shiping over 40,
Except Element is next day delivery. Wayland is next month.
They are that good? Damn my bad luck must have been an aberration?
Every other tweet Element post is someone saying "Wow, great service! I ordered yesterday and it arrived today!" as if Element deliver their stuff personally. Never a thanks for the hard working Royal Mail grunt who turns up at 5 to manually fill his van with tons of toy soldiers! Really irks me that they take full credit
Edit - too to to. Doh.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Vhalyar wrote:If this is a problem then a mod will certainly step in and kindly ask us to take it over there; until then I suggest that you PM me if you want to keep discussing that particular line of thought and here we can stay on the topic of DW Overkill and the associated White Dwarf content
reds8n wrote:take it over there
Liquid moderating
My regular postie is a fantastic dude. Helps me a lot with stuff if its heavy or big because of my disabilities . Goes out of his way. I have had awful postpeople who just throw stuff at my door though I've found that Yodel tend to be the worst at that stuff. But yes I agree Royal Mail can be excellent. But for the prices that you pay you should get decent service.
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Stormwall wrote: This seems like a horrible deal if you only want 4-5 of the Death watch marines.
I've not been following so please forgive my ignorance if I am wrong.
Given that plastic blisters are tending to be around $30 each now, you're looking at $150 for those 4-5 Deathwatch Marines.
$165 nets you 11 Deathwatch members(Iron Hand, Raven Guard[Jump Pack], Ultramarine, Imperial Fist, White Scar on Bike[who would probably be $35-$40ish], Blood Angel[Jump Pack], Space Wolf, Dark Angel, Salamander[Terminator Armor], along with Cassius and a Librarian) plus all the Genestealer Cult stuff.
So $165 for the boxed game...or $330 for JUST the Deathwatch contingent.
Stormwall wrote: This seems like a horrible deal if you only want 4-5 of the Death watch marines.
I've not been following so please forgive my ignorance if I am wrong.
Given that plastic blisters are tending to be around $30 each now, you're looking at $150 for those 4-5 Deathwatch Marines.
$165 nets you 11 Deathwatch members(Iron Hand, Raven Guard[Jump Pack], Ultramarine, Imperial Fist, White Scar on Bike[who would probably be $35-$40ish], Blood Angel[Jump Pack], Space Wolf, Dark Angel, Salamander[Terminator Armor], along with Cassius and a Librarian) plus all the Genestealer Cult stuff.
So $165 for the boxed game...or $330 for JUST the Deathwatch contingent.
I think the WD mentions £265??
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