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 xttz wrote:
For anyone still assembling their gribblies, I've found a mistake in my copy.

The assembly instructions for the Primus and Magus say they should be on 25mm bases. However if you assemble everything else as instructed there won't be enough and you'll have two spare 32mm bases instead.

The images on the GW site have the Primus and Magus on 32mm bases though, so I think the issue is with the assembly guide.

I'm putting the accessory things (teleport thingie and servo skull) on 32mm bases instead of the 25mm ones it says in the assembly guide.
I did that since they won't be used if I play the models with 40k rules.

Have my set (and already sold off the DW). The GCult models are beautiful as expected. So many little design nods to the originals. Two poses in particular are clearly odes to the two metal Hybrids that Jes Goodwin sculpted.

The 1st/2nd gen Hybrids are much bigger than the metal originals though.

Somebody on BoardGameGeek pointed out that base size impacts the board game as a zone can only hold as many models as bases can fit "entirely within the zone's border".

That means the Magus and Primus (on 32mm bases on the GW site and on the playthrough) almost certainly need the larger bases. The baggie of bases also provides enough 32mm bases to base those two characters---and not enough if you use 25mm bases as the instruction sheet recommends.

I am glad that they have made the rules available online for 40k. I prefer hard copy, but if I end up not being able to get the WD the Deathwatch stuff is in, I will settle for pdf.

Really excited for the SM stuff. Quite varied and looks very nice.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
But again; why does this seem to matter so much to some people?

You ever heard the saying "How can you tell if someone's a vegan? Don't worry; they'll tell you!". The same applies to people who make True-Scale Marines. They're so eager to show that their Marines are the "right way" to make Marines, that their models are the way Marines a "meant" to be, almost as if there's something wrong with not only regular untouched Marine models, but also the people who like them that way.

So yeah, it comes across as obnoxious.

"I'm making my Marines True-Scale!"

No, you're not. You're making them bigger than they should be. That's ok, that's fine, but disingenuous terms like "True-Scale" just come across as someone trying to belittle those that like their Marines the way they come on the tin.

1. If you'll look back, this thread of "debate" started with someone casually asking about the size of the cultists relative to the size of the marines in the box. The vegan here was the person who decided it was vital to inform everyone, as you evidently do, that everything is fine and truescale is stupid and not necessary and STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE! People express dissatisfaction with aspects of GW models all the time, this is the only example in which I've seen folk feel the need to immediately try and shout them down to the point of insisting their preferred conversions are unnecessary and they should stop talking about them. In short; physician, heal thyself.

2. You, like so many others, assert "you want to make them bigger than they should be", and yet like so many others, you completely fail to acknowledge or respond to the arguments for the other view. Dismissing someone's arguments out of hand doesn't make them magically vanish, so try again; explain the flaw in this logic - based on even the most conservative examination of the background, either GW humans are wrong in terms of height, or GW marines are wrong in terms of height, and since GW marines have other flaws beyond the height issue it's the easier and more efficient path for someone who cares about the problem(perhaps if I highlight this more aggressively you'll notice it this time, since you evidently did not when I expressed the same sentiment in the previous post) to fix the marines.

3. So it appears my initial hypothesis was correct; the reason people insist on having a go at anyone who mentions truescaling is they apparently take criticism of the models as criticism of them, rather than criticism of GW. It's not, unbunch. I mean seriously, how do you even manage to attach so much judgement and malice so such an innocuous descriptor, that'd be like just randomly deciding that "artscale"(ie the actual term for making marines "bigger than they should be") actually secretly means anyone who uses it thinks only their marines count as art and everyone else's are rubbish.

Jeezo man, chill.

Anyone arguing for or against true scale in an unrelated thread should feel bad about themselves.

Has anyone played the game yet? How does it play compared to SH or BaC?

Does anyone have a pic of the Aberrant for scale reference?

Just wondering if they are ogre size or marine ize with extra width or something else

Picked up my copies of the game today, along with the WD. Truly a glorious day to have new Genestealer Cult models and rules for them as well. Kudos to GW for bringing them back, and hoping to see a real codex of some kind for them in the not to distant future.
-Tim

Copies Tim?

Even I held out at one.

 MangoMadness wrote:
Does anyone have a pic of the Aberrant for scale reference?

Just wondering if they are ogre size or marine ize with extra width or something else

Here ya go:

So jelly... boxes in the mail... patience....

 MajorTom11 wrote:
So jelly... boxes in the mail... patience....

Yeah, it's a great box. Too bad I won't be able to paint them until I finish up my commission projects, can't be selfish with my bench time.

My only complaint is that there are a few really delicate pieces for the DW, so be careful when removing them from the sprue and cleaning.

Just placed an order for the Librarian on eBay for conversion into a Crimson Fists Librarian. I have the Deathwatch half of the boxed set coming as well (so I will have two of the Librarian). Jealous of you guys that already have everything.

BaronVonSnakPak wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
So jelly... boxes in the mail... patience....

Yeah, it's a great box. Too bad I won't be able to paint them until I finish up my commission projects, can't be selfish with my bench time.

My only complaint is that there are a few really delicate pieces for the DW, so be careful when removing them from the sprue and cleaning.

Good advice anytime I would say

 Yodhrin wrote:

1. If you'll look back, this thread of "debate" started with someone casually asking about the size of the cultists relative to the size of the marines in the box. The vegan here was the person who decided it was vital to inform everyone, as you evidently do, that everything is fine and truescale is stupid and not necessary and STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE! People express dissatisfaction with aspects of GW models all the time, this is the only example in which I've seen folk feel the need to immediately try and shout them down to the point of insisting their preferred conversions are unnecessary and they should stop talking about them. In short; physician, heal thyself.

Yeah, please quote me where I said exactly that. Because I didn't.

privateer4hire wrote:Somebody on BoardGameGeek pointed out that base size impacts the board game as a zone can only hold as many models as bases can fit "entirely within the zone's border".

That means the Magus and Primus (on 32mm bases on the GW site and on the playthrough) almost certainly need the larger bases. The baggie of bases also provides enough 32mm bases to base those two characters---and not enough if you use 25mm bases as the instruction sheet recommends.

Not the first time GW instructions are wrong on base sizes. Also happend with the AoS box.

I had to glue a familiar's claw/finger back on after it snapped when I was using side cutters. Really delicate little scutter.

 privateer4hire wrote:
I had to glue a familiar's claw/finger back on after it snapped when I was using side cutters. Really delicate little scutter.

Did the same thing, but I lost his digit in the carpet. Green stuff to the rescue!

BaronVonSnakPak wrote:

Here ya go:

Cheers!

Have got to say that I love these miniatures, they are a joy to paint as well:



@kb Lock:

To my shame I have never played Space Hulk but the game shares a lot with BaC. I think there is a lot of replay value just because of the choosing of your Kill Team and the way that the cult ambushes are spawned via the cards. It is very easy to pick up but I think learning all of the tactical nuances will take time. The missus is currently beating me 2 mission wins to nil

I don't understand why the faces on the cultists are so awesome, yet so many of the faces in other kits look like complete arse.

BaronVonSnakPak wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
So jelly... boxes in the mail... patience....

Yeah, it's a great box. Too bad I won't be able to paint them until I finish up my commission projects, can't be selfish with my bench time.

My only complaint is that there are a few really delicate pieces for the DW, so be careful when removing them from the sprue and cleaning.

This. The chain with the chapter badge and inquisition badge that runs across the gorget for Cassius is very delicate. Broke mine cutting off the frame but managed to fix easily enough.

Joyboozer wrote:
I don't understand why the faces on the cultists are so awesome, yet so many of the faces in other kits look like complete arse.

Probably because they weren't sculpted by Darren Latham then. Obviously GW don't employ just one sculptor!

 angelofvengeance wrote:

BaronVonSnakPak wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
So jelly... boxes in the mail... patience....

Yeah, it's a great box. Too bad I won't be able to paint them until I finish up my commission projects, can't be selfish with my bench time.

My only complaint is that there are a few really delicate pieces for the DW, so be careful when removing them from the sprue and cleaning.

This. The chain with the chapter badge and inquisition badge that runs across the gorget for Cassius is very delicate. Broke mine cutting off the frame but managed to fix easily enough.

I knocked the rosarius from his arm when gluing the body together, it's so damn fragile. Even if I could fix it there's no way it would stay attached in future, so I recommend this:

Joyboozer wrote:
I don't understand why the faces on the cultists are so awesome, yet so many of the faces in other kits look like complete arse.

Nothing a pair of clippers and green stuff can't fix!

MajorTom11 wrote:So jelly... boxes in the mail... patience....

You and me both. Shipping email on Friday, too slow for Saturday, nails bit down to the bone.

Mymearan wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
I don't understand why the faces on the cultists are so awesome, yet so many of the faces in other kits look like complete arse.

Probably because they weren't sculpted by Darren Latham then. Obviously GW don't employ just one sculptor!

Aye, that. Pity GW doesn't make it easier to see what Darren produces in the future.

 Tyran wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
I never got why the Cults had limos for their transports.

Surely their whole thing is hiding in the shadows and trying to remain unnoticed until the time to strike?

Why would they call attention to themselves with big flashy vehicles?

Because plenty of Genestealer Cults rule their respective planets or at least have infiltrated the government.

Genestealers Cults tend to have good PR.

At least one recruiting office at each planet.

I have just finished assembling my cult and they are simply glorious. At this stage I am spent with GW - there is nothing that beat the pinnacle of glory am I sat atop now that GSC have been released.

A nice thing to note is that the 3rd and 4th gen guys are the best 'normal human' minis out there and have massive conversion potential when they eventually release stand alone boxes. Tempestus Scion heads fit on to them really nicely too so creating a bit of variation in the cult will be easy.

I managed to snag a second set of tiles and cards from eBay for £8.75 all included. Cannot wait to set up a MASSIVE board for some homebrew scenario :-)

If it makes those of you waiting feel any better, a recent job change means I don't get paid until the 15th and moving has killed spare funds :p

So waiting for the 15th like an idiot now.

I'm still waiting, but I ordered it super late (Thursday I think), so it's understandable. The store is usually ace about this.

I can't wrap my head around bitsandkits's prices, though. Is it really 10 for 8 of the fourth gen guys? I might try to get some chaos cultists for that price.