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Them prices.

 nullBolt wrote:
Them prices.

Spoiler:

Couldnt agree more. Tried pointing this out on our club site only to be shot down by the resident GW man who insists that A) These are the best miniatures in the world and B) the price is high because you don't need that many......right because that's exactly how things in this world are priced. You only need one kitchen sink so they are £1000000. I could start another system for £60 and have a good starter set.

They're certainly not bargains,

but I think a lot of people don't realise how big they are compared to the 'old' mounted chaos minis

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
They're certainly not bargains,

but I think a lot of people don't realise how big they are compared to the 'old' mounted chaos minis

This a 1000 times. They are much bigger and better looking.

But does it really matter that much that they are bigger?

I mean, to some extent we are prepared to pay more for bigger models because it doesn't feel like we need as many of them. But the important thing is really the quality of the sculpt, not the quantity of plastic used.

Hmm not sure im going to defend the 3 for 60 price but as devils advocate i will say everyone needs a sink even if its only one, no one needs these minis they are a niche product by a company that is over stretched. GWs prices do not surprise me one bit.

Age of Sigmar: Bigger is better!

It'll be cool to see the Fyreslayer mini, just to see an infantry-sized model again. They probably want to squat the Bretonnians, not because they don't have copyrightable names, but because it'll be too hard to make a 7" tall questing knight riding on a four-legged walking castle covered in hundreds of fleur d'lys with skulls in the center of them.

...Unless that suggestion just saved Bretonnians!

The Varanguard Knights must be about the same size as the Demigryph Knights (they certainly go on the same bases). Yet they are almost double the price lol.

Not sure but they look like about the size of Archaon on the horse.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Age of Sigmar: Bigger is better!

It'll be cool to see the Fyreslayer mini, just to see an infantry-sized model again. They probably want to squat the Bretonnians, not because they don't have copyrightable names, but because it'll be too hard to make a 7" tall questing knight riding on a four-legged walking castle covered in hundreds of fleur d'lys with skulls in the center of them.

...Unless that suggestion just saved Bretonnians!

Are you sure the dwarf is infantry sized? How do we know he wasn't eating his warp wheaties and has grown to previously unheard of proportions like chaos humans and submarines?

Edit:lol.... Autocorrect turned sigmarines to submarines. I'll leave it in as its funny.

I'm just hoping he's normal dwarf-sized, expensive as it may be despite that.

Until another company comes out and starts producing fantasy miniatures that are readily accessible (there are a lot of good companies out there but you can't ever seem to get their product without having to wait months), these are to a lot of people the best looking fantasy miniatures on the market.

To a lot of people, appearance doesn't really matter, or matter little.

To other people, appearance is a big deal and those people are going to be the people that buy these models.

Once another company comes out that can rival the visuals for cheaper AND actually deliver the models in a timely manner, GW will start to lose the people who value appearance over anything else.

Until then - they will pay the price for these models.

I wonder how many crimes will be committed in order to feed the AoS addiction...

Daston wrote:

 nullBolt wrote:
Them prices.

Spoiler:

Couldnt agree more. Tried pointing this out on our club site only to be shot down by the resident GW man who insists that A) These are the best miniatures in the world and B) the price is high because you don't need that many......right because that's exactly how things in this world are priced. You only need one kitchen sink so they are £1000000. I could start another system for £60 and have a good starter set.

Even with the 15 pounds off I can get. It is still ridiculous.




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auticus wrote:
Until another company comes out and starts producing fantasy miniatures that are readily accessible (there are a lot of good companies out there but you can't ever seem to get their product without having to wait months), these are to a lot of people the best looking fantasy miniatures on the market.

To a lot of people, appearance doesn't really matter, or matter little.

To other people, appearance is a big deal and those people are going to be the people that buy these models.

Once another company comes out that can rival the visuals for cheaper AND actually deliver the models in a timely manner, GW will start to lose the people who value appearance over anything else.

Until then - they will pay the price for these models.

The only other contender is Mantic and they are no where near close to GW, warmachine is kinda okay but they do seem to be doing a similar thing with bigger is best.

I really wish rackham hadn't folded.

Do any of you actually pay the full retail price? My local store gives me $5 for every $30 spent, im sure there are even better deals online

auticus wrote:
Until another company comes out and starts producing fantasy miniatures that are readily accessible (there are a lot of good companies out there but you can't ever seem to get their product without having to wait months), these are to a lot of people the best looking fantasy miniatures on the market.

To a lot of people, appearance doesn't really matter, or matter little.

To other people, appearance is a big deal and those people are going to be the people that buy these models.

Once another company comes out that can rival the visuals for cheaper AND actually deliver the models in a timely manner, GW will start to lose the people who value appearance over anything else.

Until then - they will pay the price for these models.

Thing is, people have not been paying the price for GWs models, that's why their sales are dropping.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

auticus wrote:
Until another company comes out and starts producing fantasy miniatures that are readily accessible (there are a lot of good companies out there but you can't ever seem to get their product without having to wait months), these are to a lot of people the best looking fantasy miniatures on the market.

To a lot of people, appearance doesn't really matter, or matter little.

To other people, appearance is a big deal and those people are going to be the people that buy these models.

Once another company comes out that can rival the visuals for cheaper AND actually deliver the models in a timely manner, GW will start to lose the people who value appearance over anything else.

Until then - they will pay the price for these models.

Thing is, people have not been paying the price for GWs models, that's why their sales are dropping.

Yeah, I think we're just more likely to see a dearth in the games being played. It's like GW's attempt to get rid of all bitz sales- it didn't just mean people started buying full kits, it meant people stopped buying things altogether.

Blood crusher thing is on a 90mm oval the new knight is on a 76mm
So even with the bases scaled against each other it is bigger than the juggernaut but i dont think its worth twice the price ..

The weird side effect of the new AoS pricing is it is making the old WHFB range look like a bargain even at full retail lol (£15 for 10 skeleton warriors! £28 for 3 River Trolls!?)

Chikout wrote:
A better photo

I don't recognise the crows/ravens from anything, anybody know if that's on an existing kit?

 daemonish wrote:

Chikout wrote:
A better photo

I don't recognise the crows/ravens from anything, anybody know if that's on an existing kit?

They're on Archaons base.

-----ignore.

 Bottle wrote:
The weird side effect of the new AoS pricing is it is making the old WHFB range look like a bargain even at full retail lol (£15 for 10 skeleton warriors! £28 for 3 River Trolls!?)

Your right, both my bro in law and wife started 8th edition just as the end of times hit. They are trying to get their armies to 3k pts before it all fecks off. So far it has probably been cheaper for them than AoS (we just use regiment sizes that come out of the box no hoards).

Guillermo Del Torro may be designing GW minis after looking at the new Tzeentch sorcerer, first thing I thought of was hellboy 2 and Pans labrynth. Not a bad thing at all.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I'm just hoping he's normal dwarf-sized, expensive as it may be despite that.

I'm sure it will be dwarf-sized compared to the other AoS ranges. We've already seen from the starter set that they're significantly bigger than WHFB minis, so I would expect any new Dwarfs to have a similar scale-creep happening.

Is this a subtle joke I'm not in on?

Surely there's a limit to how big the new dwarf will be if they are to continue legitimately describing it as a dwarf?

 George Spiggott wrote:
Is this a subtle joke I'm not in on?

Surely there's a limit to how big the new dwarf will be if they are to continue legitimately describing it as a dwarf?

Sure. The point is that AoS is a different (bigger) scale than WHFB was. So AoS Dwarfs, or Duiduerenedianerons(TM) or whatever they're calling them now, will be bigger than WHFB Dwarfs.

Am I the only one who noticed they are wearing Sigmarite armour?

They're really not.

They're in similar-ish full plate, but there are very few design matches beyond both having big shoulder pads.

 insaniak wrote:
They're really not.

They're in similar-ish full plate, but there are very few design matches beyond both having big shoulder pads.

The shields are pretty similar and the greaves and vambraces aren't too far off from the Sigmarite ones. I am guessing these are corrupted Sigmarines or GW doesn't even try anymore