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i know it's heart breaking but he'll probably be a marxist too.

watch out for your quesadilla appropriating Texan culture. *when this comes true i expect a payment of $500 to bullockists psychic hotline, preferably paid in freedom dollars*

 Bullockist wrote:
i know it's heart breaking but he'll probably be a marxist too.

watch out for your quesadilla appropriating Texan culture. *when this comes true i expect a payment of $500 to bullockists psychic hotline, preferably paid in freedom dollars*

You can have my TexMex when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!*


*Frazzled has not tried the new experiments in Syrian TexMex currently beginning. He who controls the TexMex, controls the universe!

I never knew what a Millennial was but I saw lots of articles online whinging about them.

Now I find out I am one! OMAGERD.

This intergenerational stuff is silly anyhow. It's not applicable across all cultures and even within cultures it's generally just some retreading of old people going "Kids these days!"

Kids are kids, they're always annoying. Old people are too.

If you're not careful you will grow up to be a hipster.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
If you're not careful you will grow up to be a hipster.

Bah, I was a hipster before I grew up.

 Verviedi wrote:

 Goliath wrote:

 Verviedi wrote:
Never quite understood what was bad about being a millenial.

Something about being lazy, not having jobs and complaining all the time. Also entitled, and feeling that participation is important.

All things that they developed entirely on their own with absolutely zero influence from the generations that raised them.

Well, of course they don't have jobs. Baby boomers made it unsustainable to leave jobs, so they refuse to retire at the proper age. All that entitlement is simply for things that boomers took for granted.

I never asked for much in life, just not guaranteed poverty.
But then again I got problems and am what I call broken upstairs so this was predestened and would have been at any other time lol

 Bullockist wrote:
i know it's heart breaking but he'll probably be a marxist too.

*

if he turns out a marxist, hit him over the head with max weber and tell him to read more applicable social theory and stop being a tool

Weep for the future.

Fight the future!!!

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
If you're not careful you will grow up to be a hipster.

Bah, I was a hipster before I grew up.

I was a hipster before I was a hipster...

The reason Gen. Z is becoming so big is because too many people are having kids, often while still in high school, without bothering to check if they can afford more children or not. I have a feeling we are going to have record numbers of people living off the government in some way in the future. Because most of the people having large numbers of children live off the government (they have to, who can afford so many kids?) and don't teach their children that living off the government is not a good thing. I know I'm probably gonna get flamed for posting this, but people who are poor should really not go having tons of kids. Its just gonna put too much strain on the government entitlement benefit system, and we will have the problem that Greece had a couple of years ago, where the government had to either reduce or completely stop giving benefits (can't remember exactly what happened there) because the government was going bankrupt. They had a HUGE riot problem. People don't want to part with their free benefits. And in a country of 300 million plus, where 15% of the population get foodstamps (that's 45 million people, I heard that statistic on the news a few months back), not to mention other benefits, if the same thing were to happen here, this country might never recover (45 million angry people would be extremely dangerous). Hopefully Gen. Z will be able to fix some of this country's (and indeed the world's) problems, and that is something to look forward to. Only time will tell.

 Frazzled wrote:
Actually you still can get completely private loans.

It really is much better now. Instead of discharging my debts and getting a fresh start I now have the full power of the government insuring I get to pay and pay and pay.

You can, but they're not backed by the federal government anymore - that's the piece of the business they "took over". Of course, they still have a total sweetheart deal of not being able to be discharged in bankruptcy, which is totally fair and not at all screwed up.

I think this is relevant:


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M4IjTUxZORE

 LethalShade wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
We'll loan you å, ä, and ö so that we can squeeze another three generations in. By the time we run out of letters again, all of us will have croaked it, so it won't be our problem!


That's how you solve these problems, right?

Gen AA, AB, et cætera.

(Or we can use hexadecimal)

We could also start naming them like Hurricanes.

 Ouze wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Actually you still can get completely private loans.

It really is much better now. Instead of discharging my debts and getting a fresh start I now have the full power of the government insuring I get to pay and pay and pay.

You can, but they're not backed by the federal government anymore - that's the piece of the business they "took over". Of course, they still have a total sweetheart deal of not being able to be discharged in bankruptcy, which is totally fair and not at all screwed up.

Agreed on all points.

I dont know what is scary, Frazzled Agreeing with me, or Me Agreeing with Frazzled.....Cause both point to something scary.......im getting old

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I dont know what is scary, Frazzled Agreeing with me, or Me Agreeing with Frazzled.....Cause both point to something scary.......im getting old

Next up, the Joys of Senility!

 ZergSmasher wrote:
The reason Gen. Z is becoming so big is because too many people are having kids, often while still in high school, without bothering to check if they can afford more children or not. I have a feeling we are going to have record numbers of people living off the government in some way in the future. Because most of the people having large numbers of children live off the government (they have to, who can afford so many kids?) and don't teach their children that living off the government is not a good thing. I know I'm probably gonna get flamed for posting this, but people who are poor should really not go having tons of kids. Its just gonna put too much strain on the government entitlement benefit system, and we will have the problem that Greece had a couple of years ago, where the government had to either reduce or completely stop giving benefits (can't remember exactly what happened there) because the government was going bankrupt. They had a HUGE riot problem. People don't want to part with their free benefits. And in a country of 300 million plus, where 15% of the population get foodstamps (that's 45 million people, I heard that statistic on the news a few months back), not to mention other benefits, if the same thing were to happen here, this country might never recover (45 million angry people would be extremely dangerous). Hopefully Gen. Z will be able to fix some of this country's (and indeed the world's) problems, and that is something to look forward to. Only time will tell.

Ok, No.
1: Teenage pregnancy is going DOWN and the average age of having kids is going up
2: Benifits in some way shape or form are required for a strong economy. in the 50s, the reason the GI bill was nearly responsible for the growth of our economy, as was several parts of the new deal. we also have Medicare and social security.
3: Greek Riots here not because of benifits, they where because the government was corrupt and spending money in outlandish ways.
4: Its the millennials who are working to fix the countries problems, like Rampant Crony Capitalism, Out of control racism and bigotry, and the planet.

 ZergSmasher wrote:
The reason Gen. Z is becoming so big is because too many people are having kids, often while still in high school, without bothering to check if they can afford more children or not.

No, the reason it's becoming so "big" is that it is starting to span more years than previous generations (as defined by the OP). This is really not very complicated, and it has nothing to do with your bizarre rant about welfare and irresponsible parents. The three most recent generations all make up roughly equal percentages of the population and span roughly the same number of years. Then the older generations start to become less of a percentage per year included in the generation because they are dying at a much higher rate and there just aren't as many of them left. So one of two things will happen with Gen Z:

1) There will be a consensus that the next generation has started, with its own label and stereotypes, ending the number of people born into Z. The percentage of the population will remain roughly the same as the previous generation, until the old-age effect starts to become significant.

or

2) It will take a while for someone to come up with a clever name and defining event for a new generation and Z will continue to grow as a percentage of the population simply because it spans more years and people keep getting added to it while previous generations can only lose people.

Either way the result has nothing to do with people having lots of kids just because they can scam the government into paying for them.

Cutting-edge research has revealed that studies may result in statistics.

At least one thing will never change: people will always continue to blame another generation for the failures of their life/society.

Don't get me wrong, I do believe each generation has contributed to the downfall of the world, but I believe the time has come to work together to fix the future rather than point fingers as the bus crashes.

 jreilly89 wrote:


Don't get me wrong, I do believe each generation has contributed to the downfall of the world, but I believe the time has come to work together to fix the future rather than point fingers as the bus crashes.

The world has never been a better place than it is now. We have relative peace, strong economical relations across the entire world, prosperity is at an alltime high, critical social issues such as racism and sexism are at an all-time low and let's not talk about stuff like techonlogical prowess especially in areas like medicine. Today's world, at least the modern part of it, is absolutely amazing and while it certainly has its downsides too, in general, it's outstanding. Don't let all the bicking get to your head.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:


Don't get me wrong, I do believe each generation has contributed to the downfall of the world, but I believe the time has come to work together to fix the future rather than point fingers as the bus crashes.

The world has never been a better place than it is now. We have relative peace, strong economical relations across the entire world, prosperity is at an alltime high, critical social issues such as racism and sexism are at an all-time low and let's not talk about stuff like techonlogical prowess especially in areas like medicine. Today's world, at least the modern part of it, is absolutely amazing and while it certainly has its downsides too, in general, it's outstanding. Don't let all the bicking get to your head.

Excuse me? I would hardly say sexism and racism is at an all time low, especially here in America. Given the relations between illegals and not, cops and African Americans, and now all this anti-Muslim talk, I'd hardly argue it's died down. Also, prosperity in America is relative, as I'd say it is also in the rest of the world.

Certain things in the world are amazing, but not everything is roses.

Also, relative peace? Sure, tell that to Syria.

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:


Don't get me wrong, I do believe each generation has contributed to the downfall of the world, but I believe the time has come to work together to fix the future rather than point fingers as the bus crashes.

The world has never been a better place than it is now. We have relative peace, strong economical relations across the entire world, prosperity is at an alltime high, critical social issues such as racism and sexism are at an all-time low and let's not talk about stuff like techonlogical prowess especially in areas like medicine. Today's world, at least the modern part of it, is absolutely amazing and while it certainly has its downsides too, in general, it's outstanding. Don't let all the bicking get to your head.

Excuse me? I would hardly say sexism and racism is at an all time low, especially here in America. Given the relations between illegals and not, cops and African Americans, and now all this anti-Muslim talk, I'd hardly argue it's died down. Also, prosperity in America is relative, as I'd say it is also in the rest of the world.

Certain things in the world are amazing, but not everything is roses.

High compared to which other period? Slavery? Apartheid? The wage gap, one of the biggest sexist issues from the past, is almost eliminated. Women now have it easier than ever to take jobs formerly dominated by men (whether that's good for some jobs or not).

I said "we". Syria isn't "we". "We" is the modern part of the world, the West. Issues we got long over with are still present over there, in the East. Sexism and racism are insane.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:


Don't get me wrong, I do believe each generation has contributed to the downfall of the world, but I believe the time has come to work together to fix the future rather than point fingers as the bus crashes.

The world has never been a better place than it is now. We have relative peace, strong economical relations across the entire world, prosperity is at an alltime high, critical social issues such as racism and sexism are at an all-time low and let's not talk about stuff like techonlogical prowess especially in areas like medicine. Today's world, at least the modern part of it, is absolutely amazing and while it certainly has its downsides too, in general, it's outstanding. Don't let all the bicking get to your head.

Excuse me? I would hardly say sexism and racism is at an all time low, especially here in America. Given the relations between illegals and not, cops and African Americans, and now all this anti-Muslim talk, I'd hardly argue it's died down. Also, prosperity in America is relative, as I'd say it is also in the rest of the world.

Certain things in the world are amazing, but not everything is roses.

High compared to which other period? Slavery? Apartheid? The wage gap, one of the biggest sexist issues from the past, is almost eliminated. Women now have it easier than ever to take jobs formerly dominated by men (whether that's good for some jobs or not).

I said "we". Syria isn't "we". "We" is the modern part of the world, the West. Issues we got long over with are still present over there, in the East. Sexism and racism are insane.

So, everything is great if you only look at your part of the world?

Also, sure, they may not be enforcing segregation, but it's a far cry to say racism is at an all time low. I'd argue legally it is, but those prejudices and ideas still exist in some form. As to sexism, same thing. Legally, it's gone, but those ideas still exist.

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:


Don't get me wrong, I do believe each generation has contributed to the downfall of the world, but I believe the time has come to work together to fix the future rather than point fingers as the bus crashes.

The world has never been a better place than it is now. We have relative peace, strong economical relations across the entire world, prosperity is at an alltime high, critical social issues such as racism and sexism are at an all-time low and let's not talk about stuff like techonlogical prowess especially in areas like medicine. Today's world, at least the modern part of it, is absolutely amazing and while it certainly has its downsides too, in general, it's outstanding. Don't let all the bicking get to your head.

Excuse me? I would hardly say sexism and racism is at an all time low, especially here in America. Given the relations between illegals and not, cops and African Americans, and now all this anti-Muslim talk, I'd hardly argue it's died down. Also, prosperity in America is relative, as I'd say it is also in the rest of the world.

Certain things in the world are amazing, but not everything is roses.

Also, relative peace? Sure, tell that to Syria.

How many lynchings occurred this week? How many slave auctions on the piers of New York City? Thats all the counterpoint needed. Jeez people need to read a freaking book once in a while.

The problem is you're attaching absolutes where there wasn't one presented. Saying that racism is at an all-time low isn't the same as saying racism has been totally eradicated. Yeah, we still have a long way to go to eliminate racism but man, we started from a pretty fethed up place.

The world overall is indeed by any reasonable metric a much better place than it was when I was a child.

You cannot fight "ideas". What you /can/ do is fighting them - and that is exactly what has been happening for a long time now with huge success. There has been a sad counter-development that started in the last ~3-4 years, slacktivism, with attention who..lesales abusing a good cause for their own profit / mental issues, but overall, a lot of good things are being done. If you tie the abolishment of "-isms" to there no longer being people who have those, you will be severely disappointed. It's unrealistic. Tell me then, as you didn't answer, when was the world any better off?

Yes, to me, it's the part of the world that actually matters. Why would I care for any backwater country? It'd be highly irrational.

 Frazzled wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:


Don't get me wrong, I do believe each generation has contributed to the downfall of the world, but I believe the time has come to work together to fix the future rather than point fingers as the bus crashes.

The world has never been a better place than it is now. We have relative peace, strong economical relations across the entire world, prosperity is at an alltime high, critical social issues such as racism and sexism are at an all-time low and let's not talk about stuff like techonlogical prowess especially in areas like medicine. Today's world, at least the modern part of it, is absolutely amazing and while it certainly has its downsides too, in general, it's outstanding. Don't let all the bicking get to your head.

Excuse me? I would hardly say sexism and racism is at an all time low, especially here in America. Given the relations between illegals and not, cops and African Americans, and now all this anti-Muslim talk, I'd hardly argue it's died down. Also, prosperity in America is relative, as I'd say it is also in the rest of the world.

Certain things in the world are amazing, but not everything is roses.

Also, relative peace? Sure, tell that to Syria.

How many lynchings occurred this week? How many slave auctions on the piers of New York City? Thats all the counterpoint needed. Jeez people need to read a freaking book once in a while.

Frazzled, there may not be any lynchings or slave sales in America, but the parts of the world are still pretty fethed up, considering the hold ISIS has on the Middle East and thousand of people are fleeing their homelands.


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 Sigvatr wrote:
You cannot fight "ideas". What you /can/ do is fighting them - and that is exactly what has been happening for a long time now with huge success. There has been a sad counter-development that started in the last ~3-4 years, slacktivism, with attention who..lesales abusing a good cause for their own profit / mental issues, but overall, a lot of good things are being done. If you tie the abolishment of "-isms" to there no longer being people who have those, you will be severely disappointed. It's unrealistic. Tell me then, as you didn't answer, when was the world any better off?

Yes, to me, it's the part of the world that actually matters. Why would I care for any backwater country? It'd be highly irrational.

I'll concede to you, parts of the world are better off than in previous years, but that doesn't mean that everything is sunshine and butterflies. Terrible inhuman things still happen everyday, and I think it's a gakky attitude to pretend that what happens in another country doesn't matter because it isn't happening to you.


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 Ouze wrote:
The problem is you're attaching absolutes where there wasn't one presented. Saying that racism is at an all-time low isn't the same as saying racism has been totally eradicated. Yeah, we still have a long way to go to eliminate racism but man, we started from a pretty fethed up place.

The world overall is indeed by any reasonable metric a much better place than it was when I was a child.

My point was that its hard to argue the world is a better place when racism still exists, not even hidden, but at large, and terrorism and xenophobia are on every social media outlet. How is that better than when you were a kid?

 jreilly89 wrote:
My point was that its hard to argue the world is a better place when racism still exists, not even hidden, but at large, and terrorism and xenophobia are on every social media outlet. How is that better than when you were a kid?

Because it's less severe now than it was when I was a kid, and less severe still then when my mom was a kid? When my mom was a baby, schools were still segregated. How are you not getting that things have gotten notably better? It's not hard at all to argue that the world is not a better place when it's getting better, even if there are still problems.

 Ouze wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:
My point was that its hard to argue the world is a better place when racism still exists, not even hidden, but at large, and terrorism and xenophobia are on every social media outlet. How is that better than when you were a kid?

Because it's less severe now than it was when I was a kid, and less severe still then when my mom was a kid? When my mom was a baby, schools were still segregated. How are you not getting that things have gotten notably better? It's not hard at all to argue that the world is not a better place when it's getting better, even if there are still problems.

Because it's aggravating that people view "the world" often in terms of only what affects them. ISIS could control every country but America and I'm sure people wouldn't notice.