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What would you have said to my post if I hadn't told you I smoke, armyman? You kind of smoke-and-mirrored your way out of the actual discussion I attempted to have with you, and instead resorted to insults.

So you don't think that these people perhaps had a problem or two before they used Marijuana? Your assertion is just "fething stoners"?

Yeah, time to let it go.

 the_Armyman wrote:

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

So just to be clear, if someone tries to correct an over generalization made by another person about a group the first person belongs to, that makes the first person a narcissist?

Got it.

Apparently, you don't get it. Why do I have to defend a group and simulataneously belong to it (e.g, I don't care for anti-semites, but I'm not Jewish). Conversely, I can belong to the group I'm defending without bringing up the fact I belong to that group. But, stoners are narcissists, so they tend to broach the topic any time it's even remotely possible.

You generalized about marijuana smokers, and AncientSkarsbrand challenged your over generalization about that group. He brought up that fact that he smokes weed as a way of disputing your broad statement about a group he belongs to.

Marijuana smokers aren't necessarily narcissists, just like any other group of people aren't necessarily narcissists. Perhaps you have a bias towards marijuana, and if anyone brings it up around you it raises your hackles. That's fine if that is the case, but it doesn't make your ridiculous statement about all marijuana smokers being narcissists any more true than an anti-Semite saying all Jews are cut-throat negotiators. Doing so is stupid and shows your ignorance and bias.

Hmmmm... seems like there can be a back story to this marijuana and narcissists.
I figure with the big N's its "all about them" but with the weed they would care a whole lot less.

See now we are in the realm of "irritating" than weird.

Weird people gold is my red headed cousin has gone for a teaching stint in Japan, the stuff she reports back I have to read twice.
She is very strange herself so it just has this extra messed-up feel when mixing it in with another culture.

So yeah, shout out to any Japanese dakka folks: wish you could game over here: there is not enough fun-strange things going on at my FLGS.

Aside from some gender adjustments going on, the folks are pretty good, the Radio Control folks who come in trying to return a part after a year get a bit bent.

Ah! One of the shop keepers at the FLGS told me a guy came in looking for an RC part, he directed him to look at the wall that had some parts hung on it.
The guy then said "You need to get it for me.", "You did not give a specific model, I could assist you then.", "It is your job to do it, so go get it!".
So... the shop guy then had to explain that they are phasing out the RC stuff and he was welcome to see what was available or he could direct him to another store that would have a greater selection.
"I do not want to go elsewhere, I don't want to waste my time, get the damn part!!!"
Reason set in and the reply was "No. It is probably not there anyway.".
Then an unexpected response: "Hit me!"
"Huh?!?"
"Hit me!!!"
"No, get out or I am calling the police.".

Fun stuff in the land of customer service.

There was a guy at a now closed LGS who was a nightmare to deal with, mainly because he combined a lot of the worst traits associated with annoying gamers into one big, fat ball of gross.

The LGS had a back gaming area that was split between game tables and computers. Well, nightmare-guy was close friends with the store owner, and that owner let his buddies pretty much live in the back of the shop. Nightmare-guy must have worked in some kind of construction job, because he always came in to the store filthy. Like Pigpen from Peanuts filthy.

To top it off, as soon as he got into the store he'd take off his shoes and socks and hang out in the gaming area, making the rounds and chatting with anyone who was nearby--whether they wanted to be involved in a conversation or not. Those conversations always involved him offering unrequested tactical advice during a game, as well as picking up models with his disgusting, dirt-caked hands. All mid-game, mind you.

I also remember him having the habit of rubbing his dirty feet vigorously on the carpet, as if to get them warm or perhaps to scrape off the outer layer of funk from his dermis.

That guy was the worst.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:He finally points over Talkyhoarder's shoulder hand says "Holy gak!" and then jumped into his car and sped away when the guy turned around to look.

namiel wrote:but the one thing that is the single most weird thing, hands down.
GROWN ASS ADULTS WHO DONT fething SHOWER!!!! be weird but wash your ass. WTF

ZergSmasher wrote:
Lol! Now THAT is funny!

I swear the guy I knew could have been the model for that strip, down to occupation, appearance and behaviour, with two differences:
- the real assistant had longer hair.
- the comic assistant was nicer.

And then there was that regular who was pretty normal (with the caveat of actually being a gaming shop regular ): well dressed, adequately groomed, socially competent, etc. It's just that, for whatever reason, he smelled of gak. No exaggeration. A member of staff asked him to have a shower one time, and that was the last time we saw him. Poor guy.

Gremore wrote:Weird is definitely subjective, and if we're completely honest with ourselves all of us that frequent a game store for wargaming could be considered a little 'weird'.

I can verify.

 jonolikespie wrote:

 namiel wrote:
There was a kid who used to take a knee and say a prayer to the lady of the lake with his brets before a game.

I'm pretty sure that's expected now with AoS

Read the Grail Knights warscroll ;-)

 the_Armyman wrote:

AncientSkarbrand wrote:
Just gotta say, not everyone who is a "fething stoner" is gonna zone out or require twelve large bags of chips to play a game. In my experience, people who smoke weed and do things like that have a problem with self awareness before the weed is smoked, and the shift in psyche just makes it worse. I understand the type casting though, as the zone out and munchies thing is probably common and usually probably has weed behind it.

I've met people who smoke the stuff and have 0 noticeable change in how they deal with situations and others, and I've met people who change quite a bit under the influence. Being a "fething stoner" myself, I definitely place myself in the first category and somewhat resent being associated with that behaviour by extension. I have a large vocabulary both sober and after smoking, and even though I play daemons the game is hardly ever waiting on me or my book keeping and I would never light up in a public place and inconvenience others who don't use and dislike the smell or even being around it.

All I'm saying is, if the stoner is annoying you, chances are it's not the weed that is the problem, the person themselves may have some social drawbacks that are perhaps exacerbated by the use of Marijuana.

Stoners are narcissists. They love to tell you about the fact they smoke. Your post above kinda reinforces that stereotype: you had to tell me you smoke, amirite? I don't care if you smoke, but don't do it in a place of business. How hard is that to understand?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGk-79gvz9k
I don't moyase that 420 myself... no devils cabbage for me...
I waste all my money on plastic soldiers and ball jointed dolls.

I live in southern Illinois, so we had to deal for a long time with both the Rainbow Gathering, which is kind of like Burning Man, but with less prestige and less class. Inevitably a couple freaks would get separated from the bed and wind up in our store.

More recently we had a recurring infestation of Juggalos, week would site up to take over a local park festival every year and turn it into a celebration of hard drugs, pretty crime, and flinging their own feces (no, really) but that seems to be going away too. Again, inevitably one wastoid would wander into the store to talk about Magic and/or shoplift.

There is this one guy that goes to the FLGS that flips out every time he is playing heroclix. The screams, shouts, and throws stuff when he is playing a game. Before he leaves the store he apologized for his actions and claims his new meds are not working. Poor guy suffers from mental Heath issues and he is fine if not playing heroclix. The guy wanted to start warmachine but the store owner talked him out of it since he doesn't handle losing to well.

Compared to the some of the 'people' I met working retail, I have never met a weird gamer. I haven't met many stinky ones, either. About the worst I've seen was the prolonged awkwardness that resulted from two drunk girls in cowboy hats and bar night clothes fixating on the one GW employee with Tourette's Syndrome and grilling him about what Games Workshop is and what it sells and if they sell any princesses.


Sadly, he failed to sell them a Bretonnian battle force.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
About the worst I've seen was the prolonged awkwardness that resulted from two drunk girls in cowboy hats and bar night clothes fixating on the one GW employee with Tourette's Syndrome and grilling him about what Games Workshop is and what it sells and if they sell any princesses.

Saw that a lot too. About 8 years back there was a short lived game shop in Arcadia, CA that was located next to a bar. I was friendly with the staff and they and would let the regulars stay after hours to play often until 2 or 3 AM. Great fun, except for when the bar let out. We had a few occasions where the door of the game shop wasn't locked and drunks stumbled in and started molesting the players and miniatures.

Fething drunks. Reprobates all of them.

 Mr. Burning wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Met a guy who claimed to have given a chick chlamydia on purpose and then disappeared for a while after a manhunt was started on him for apparently molesting a child.

Good fething God that's a hard one to top.

How did that nugget even crop in a conversation?

'You need to roll for perils...coincidently........'

Hung out with the guy and a few others one night after the store closed. Learned a lot of stuff I never wanted to know that night

Weirdest one I've encountered would probably be the masochist X-Wing player. He always seems to be miserable about his games, carelessly bumps ships and templates around (far too often to his advantage), complains about how broken the game is (it isn't) and how he won't play against certain lists, etc. And he's constantly taking weak lists and making bad decisions in-game, which only seems to supply more things to be unhappy about. Yet he continues to keep playing the game!

Thankfully, other than that, I can't remember any exceptionally weird or obnoxious people. People with anger issues when they lose? Yep. People with awful political beliefs that I'd never associate with outside of a shared hobby? Yep. Children being immature? Yep. But they haven't really been any worse than the kind of people I could encounter anywhere else.

There were a lot of cool guys at my FLGS. One guy however had weekly basketball practice right before gaming night. He'd come strait from the courts to the store.

He didn't stink, and to his credit tried to clean up the best he could. He sometimes over did it on the Axe Body Spray though.

What made him "special" was that I'm pretty sure the guy didn't wear underwear, and had random and extreme erections all night, and wore thin, loose workout shorts, LOL. He was also the right height compared to the table, so that when he leaned over to reach the center of the table his manhood would push over models in front of him, usually his dead pile.

In our store there is a guy who got the Bachelor recently.
He's always taking about the game, mostly WM, and obviously has some inside knowledge, but he never plays.

 cuda1179 wrote:
There were a lot of cool guys at my FLGS. One guy however had weekly basketball practice right before gaming night. He'd come strait from the courts to the store.

He didn't stink, and to his credit tried to clean up the best he could. He sometimes over did it on the Axe Body Spray though.

What made him "special" was that I'm pretty sure the guy didn't wear underwear, and had random and extreme erections all night, and wore thin, loose workout shorts, LOL. He was also the right height compared to the table, so that when he leaned over to reach the center of the table his manhood would push over models in front of him, usually his dead pile.

So he plays hard?

This would be hilarious if he played warmachine by the way. Que jokes about 'play like you got a pair', and 'what's the p&s (sat it fast and it sounds like...) of...'.

But yeah, seriously- not needed in a game!

I've seen a few;

A very overweight guy who refused to buy anything, was miserable all the time, except from when he was gaming against 13 yr olds, when he became very lively and acted out everything that was happening on the table (including sound effects). (I'm not claiming this 25yr old was trying to groom these boys, more that he felt himself comfortable with them to express his enthusiasm).

One guy who hung around quietly, waiting to be accepted into the fold, and then turned up the following week in a long white wig and undid six months work.

A cockney doorman who dealt coke on the side who forgot who he'd leant a bl book too and got banned for nearly beating up the wrong bloke.

A very long haired moustachioed gentleman who used to come in just to look at the boxes and talk about the women on the Russian news channel.

Just a couple.

 the_Armyman wrote:


Stoners are narcissists. They love to tell you about the fact they smoke. Your post above kinda reinforces that stereotype: you had to tell me you smoke, amirite? I don't care if you smoke, but don't do it in a place of business. How hard is that to understand?

.

Absolute rubbish, its just like anything else, depends on the individual.

EDit due to Adult nature.
Also for the keyboard Trolls i am not PC never have never will.
I am a Christian veteran gun owner enough said.

This thread was not a good idea to begin with - but if people are going to ignore Rule #1 and Rule #2?

First and last warning.

I long thought about starting an off topic thread about 'most hated group of people,' but didn't for fear it would spin out of control and get locked.

But this thread seems to be covering it nicely.

I was going to respond to Col. Krazy Kenny with a "What's wrong with..?" Post, but considering the warning, maybe not.

Along the lines Peregrine mentioned earlier, I definitely prefer to leave politics and religion out of the game store. If I want to get riled up, all I really need to do is look at the GW prices.



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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
About the worst I've seen was the prolonged awkwardness that resulted from two drunk girls in cowboy hats and bar night clothes fixating on the one GW employee with Tourette's Syndrome and grilling him about what Games Workshop is and what it sells and if they sell any princesses.

Saw that a lot too. About 8 years back there was a short lived game shop in Arcadia, CA that was located next to a bar. I was friendly with the staff and they and would let the regulars stay after hours to play often until 2 or 3 AM. Great fun, except for when the bar let out. We had a few occasions where the door of the game shop wasn't locked and drunks stumbled in and started molesting the players and miniatures.

Fething drunks. Reprobates all of them.

Arcadia, near Eureka? That's a smalllllllll town. Still, it has more bookstores than Alaska. Always reminds me of the film Gremlins for some reason.

And the customers were more of an issue for whatever game they were playing with the Tourette's guy. It was like one of those scenes an evolutionary biologist would use to demonstrate that humans act on the same malicious principles as mature chimpanzees, only with more subtlety.

There's a certain guy who used to come to a local store who I only knew briefly, who struck me as a bit quirky. He was trying to teach some rookies the rules to Warmachine while getting them horribly wrong at every turn, and shared his top secret information with me about how Games Workshop had been bought by a Baptist group from the southern US, and they were removing Chaos for being un-Christian. But once I was at a painting session with people who had known him for longer, some of the really odd stuff came out. Apparently, he was a major fantasist, who had stories about being a black ops soldier who had been beaten up by the IRA (and it took four men to hold him down) or about how he was being hunted by the Yakuza.

Yes, the Japanese Yakuza.

In Yorkshire, England.

The weirdest game store person & kid I've ever seen was actually my friend's nephew who was about 9-10 at the time. His parents wanted to play in the stores D&D group so they would bring him along and he'd hang around while we played. He was the most sheltered coddled person I've ever met, he looked and behaved a lot like Robin Arryn from game of thrones. He was a really thin and sickly looking kid and he'd be in constant physical contact with his mom usually clinging to her arm and was prone to weird outbursts when he felt he wasn't receiving enough attention which was pretty much all the time. Whenever attention wasn't completely focused on him he'd get frustrated and throw tantrums and start grabbing at his mothers breasts and try to pull them out of her shirt.

Even though he was close to ten years old he was still being breast fed because his parents thought it created a stronger family bond, her go to routine was that she'd let him suckle as a way of calming him down. She wouldn't do it in public but the kid was so maladjusted that he'd demand that he get bi-bi or whatever he called it and constantly be yanking at his mom's chest until she'd get up and leave so she could go feed him in the car or the bathroom. The rest of us were pretty much like WTF doing this at 9 years old?

He also had this nervous habit of constantly rocking back and forth and constantly licking his lips so much so that he had this really creepy blistered up red ring around his entire mouth. There was something really, really unnerving about it as he'd sit there rocking back, staring you directly in the eye while licking his lips.

Wow...some people should NOT be allowed to have children. Poor kid.

Okay, so like, I dunno about you people

But from personal experience, I'd much rather play minis games with people who are gay, visibly transgender, or weed enthusiasts, than people who shower exclusively in Axe body spray or are TFG in the game.

Bring all the "weird" people into the store, I say. The hobby needs them more than it needs entitled man-children, who can get really vocal about their "right" to not have to be around them in public.

Or bathe.

Or play against whatever codex just got updated.

 Jewelfox wrote:
Okay, so like, I dunno about you people

But from personal experience, I'd much rather play minis games with people who are gay, visibly transgender, or weed enthusiasts, than people who shower exclusively in Axe body spray or are TFG in the game.

Bring all the "weird" people into the store, I say. The hobby needs them more than it needs entitled man-children, who can get really vocal about their "right" to not have to be around them in public.

Or bathe.

Or play against whatever codex just got updated.

I don't think you understand what the point of this thread is for...

Also, please, nobody cares about the stoner bit, can we PLEASE get off of it? Alpharius already warned the thread about it

Gay & transgender, nothing weird about that. It's the stinky guys that bother me.

The hobby tends to attract a lot of non standard guys and some girls. The one guy who always dressed like a final fantasy character and assaulted his father with a claw hammer must have been the strangest I have met. I don't know the story in detail since it was more then 10 years ago bu I;m quite sure that I have never seen him since his attempt.

I remembered two more.

We had a guy for a while that was originally from somewhere in Great Britain, that had immigrated to the US 10 years prior. He lived in the most rural part of Kentucky (or somewhere in that area, I'm not sure), before moving to Iowa. He ended up with an extremely odd accent that was a cross between thick British and redneck Southern country boy. To make matters worse, he had a very thick beard. Understanding anything this man said was hard.

The next one isn't really a customer, so much as the setting of the store itself. Imagine a gaming store across the street from a major college campus, two doors down from a major college bar, and less than three blocks from Fraternity row. This normally wasn't a problem unless gaming lasted unusually long into the night, when it was a crapshoot if you'd get hassled by drunken frat boys. On one of these fateful nights a drunk thought it would be funny to kick my model case out of my hands, a case filled with about $2500 of models. By instinct alone I turned and punched, the only punch I've thrown in my life. I actually knocked the guy out.