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BobtheInquisitor wrote: I'm still hurt from Into Darkness. Not sure I'm ready to trust again.
Also my sentiments.
I think the premise is intriguing, but in the same way that Into Darkness embraced the worst aspects of the first JJ Trek, I worry this film might in turn embrace the worst aspects of Into Darkness. I'd really like to see them go back to that first one, which had the formula so right, even if the execution was a little hack jawed. This looks like a giant chase movie, with the crew stranded on some planet with no ship. Dark edgyness for the sake of being dark and edgy just ain't gonna carry another movie.
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Looks way too explodey-wodey... Not that I want to go down this tangent again (it was done to death just recently in the Star Trek TV thread), but that's really not what ST is about. I was hoping we were going to get some Bold Going and Seeking Out in this one, after the last 2 were just things exploding and lens flares, but this just looks like more of the same.
Is it weird that the trailer for Independence Day Resurgence makes it look like a more thoughtful science fiction film than this trailer makes Star Trek Beyond look? It feels weird.
I'm hoping the Enterprise getting blown up is a trailer fake out like the Dreadnought crash in Into Darkness was. Could be the command crew is along for a shakedown cruise on another Constitution class ship. Fingers crossed. I'm really tired of the Enterprise getting it's butt kicked.
I mean, Quinto is great acting as Spock but the character doesn't ring true to me.
I dunno... I always felt that Nimoy's Spock always acted too closely to "full Vulcans" in the shows/movies, whereas Quinto's Spock seems to have a more visible conflict between his human and vulcan half.
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: I'm still hurt from Into Darkness. Not sure I'm ready to trust again.
Yea. I call meh. Reviews have to be awesome before I even think about seeing it.
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gorgon wrote: The farther they get from captains lecturing on the finer points of Federation protocol over tea, the happier I am.
As long as uhura doesn't travel back in time and dance naked, i'll be happy.
Interestingly, I actually wouldn't have a problem with that. Unless you're talking about Nichelle Nichols. Then I'd have a problem. Yea, I'd be very sad to see that.
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: I'm still hurt from Into Darkness. Not sure I'm ready to trust again.
Also my sentiments.
I think the premise is intriguing, but in the same way that Into Darkness embraced the worst aspects of the first JJ Trek, I worry this film might in turn embrace the worst aspects of Into Darkness. I'd really like to see them go back to that first one, which had the formula so right, even if the execution was a little hack jawed. This looks like a giant chase movie, with the crew stranded on some planet with no ship. Dark edgyness for the sake of being dark and edgy just ain't gonna carry another movie.
Frankly, I didn't see a single "edgy" aspect in this trailer lol. I mean it certainly doesn't look like the slow and ponderous tone from a TNG episode, but this seems to be more in the vein of Guardians of the Galaxy than anything else. Half the trailer was basically light-hearted jokes, with the other half being explosions.
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I must admit I was not the biggest fan of Star Trek (the series). I would watch it if it was on as hey it was sci-fi and well there wasnt too much of that when I grew up.
I did however enjoy DS9 mainly for the more action based story line and I have found the Abrams films to be entertaining, which lets be honest is the most important thing. I pay my cash to be entertained for 2 or more hours.
DS9 was my favourite of the Treks as well. A big part of that was for the action-eyness of the Dominion War. But DS9 did still have the classic Trekness of it too (in my eyes), it was still about the utopia-ness and hope for the future. DS9 just demonstrated that it was hard work keeping that dream going but humanity, as a whole really *are* capable of it.
This film, well... Ironically, Star Wars Episode 7 seems more 'thoughtful' than it and it wouldn't surprise me if that ends up asking bigger questions than this Trek film. - Which does look like a cross between John Carter of Mars and Avatar.
Is this the first time they've had to contend with fighters? All my memories of Trek space combat has always been capital vs capital.
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DS9 has the 'peregrine' class attack fighter for the Federation and the Hidecki fighters for the Cardassians. (I only ever found out their names from Attack Wing of all places.)
The way DS9 seemed to treat it was, the fighters go off and have their own battle while the larger ships engage themselves. I imagine that makes sense, really. - Fighters only having an impact on the larger scaled battles once the winner of their smaller ones are determined.
Utter utter crap, this movie looks awful and seems to be continuing to trample on everything that made star trek decent, if they want to appeal to mindless morons that only want "pew pew" then just make a generic sci fi film and leave star trek alone.
Formosa wrote: Utter utter crap, this movie looks awful and seems to be continuing to trample on everything that made star trek decent, if they want to appeal to mindless morons that only want "pew pew" then just make a generic sci fi film and leave star trek alone.
So.... all of us who think it'll be pretty good are "mindless morons".... good to know
I enjoy the new films well enough, so I'll give this a go. I also enjoy the originals, and can reconile the differences enough so I enjoy both takes on Star Trek.
Star Trek fans who think this movie won't be like Star Trek and are sad.
Star Trek nonfans who think this movie won't be like Star Trek and are excited.
There are also Star Trek fans who realize that there are many different interpretations and aspects of Star Trek between all the different series and movies and who are looking forward to another Star Trek to add to the mix.
Then there are people who think that they are the authority on what makes people a fan or a nonfan based on their ultimate knowledge of all things Trek.
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