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2016/01/05 17:42:43
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
Relapse wrote: Set up an ongoing barbque, where the smell of the food continually wafts toward the building they've taken over.
That's truly horrible - a siege with loud Guns N' Roses is one thing, but that's the next level.
Mercy is for the weak.
This is a federal issue. Which means that after the fact there will be hearings by senators and congressmen about why they didn't use Texas/KC/Memphis Style BBQ, special select committees about why they used beef instead of pork, attack ads by the beef and pork lobbies.
Is this worth all this???
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2016/01/05 17:44:32
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
jhe90 wrote: honestly, safest way is to leave leave them alone, don't give them a spotlight and they will walk out peacefully in the end.
it may take time but its better than people getting killed. just wait them out.
Judging from their vast horde of food stocks, looks like it will take about three days.
Easy then. keep them isolated for 3-4 days and all is done. let them walk out and offer them pizza if they do so. just stop supplies or people going in.
Set up an ongoing barbque, where the smell of the food continually wafts toward the building they've taken over.
Better idea.
Keep them penned into the building and supply them with food drops.
The twist? All the food drops are vegan meals.
2016/01/05 17:45:08
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
Loudly broadcast the Spice Girls on repeat, maybe with Hanson and the occassional repeat of Drake's cellphone song, along with the BBQ upwind and this thing would be over pretty dang quick and they would be asking to be arrested.
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2016/01/05 18:19:13
Subject: Re:Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
Safety Dance is a great song. Its actually on my MP3 player and I sing along while driving. Should not be used for psychological warfare, everyone, including the LEOs would just sing along.
If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM!
2016/01/05 19:10:15
Subject: Re:Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
How do you think we got Noriega out of the Vatican Embassy in Panama.....actually how many here remember him or going to combat into Panama....
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2016/01/05 20:12:58
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
So, because my feed is full of college students, im seeing some interesting comments.
One being that it is only white people who have the right to be armed, while the other is comparing how Black Lives Matter protestors are regularly beaton by police for half of what these guys are doing, when I cant find any example of that in which it wasnt violence met with force.
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2016/01/05 20:25:09
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
BLM as far as I am aware has never been beaten by police. Police pretty much have sat on the sidelines and watched and waited for a protestor to cross the line and even then in some cases did very little. Helps that usually the media is covering every square inch of the protests just to be lucky enough to film an incident like that and no policeman really wants to be "that guy" on national television doing something wrong.
As for this case, its less that the white people are armed and more that the authorities don't see a need to intervene physically and risk an armed confrontation and lost officers when all they have to do is sit back and monitor. If it was a true terrorist group then yeah, maybe they would be a bit more proactive, especially in an occupied area, and even more so if hostages were involved. But what appears to be a insignificant building and gym in the middle of nowhere. Not worth losing any officers over.
If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM!
2016/01/05 20:29:49
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
Didn't we use music (van halen, I think) to try to freak out Noriega? What music would you play for these fellows? Dixie Chicks? Woody Guthrie's "my land is your land"?
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2016/01/05 20:36:23
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
Gordon Shumway wrote: Didn't we use music (van halen, I think) to try to freak out Noriega? What music would you play for these fellows? Dixie Chicks? Woody Guthrie's "my land is your land"?
Indigo Girls.
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2016/01/05 20:50:08
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
Jihadin wrote: How do you think we got Noriega out of the Vatican Embassy in Panama.....actually how many here remember him or going to combat into Panama....
I remember Panama. Wasn't there, but do remember it. Funny thing was that the US was OK with him until he stopped fighting the CIAs enemies. Seems Saddam familiar, I just Karimov it from my mind. Maybe if I Pinochet it....
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2016/01/05 22:11:00
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
hotsauceman1 wrote: So, because my feed is full of college students, im seeing some interesting comments.
One being that it is only white people who have the right to be armed, while the other is comparing how Black Lives Matter protestors are regularly beaton by police for half of what these guys are doing, when I cant find any example of that in which it wasnt violence met with force.
Could it be the Sulu Dance instead? That would make those militia men run out screaming. Or, maybe, they'd embrace one another in brotherly love. Either way, siege over.
2016/01/06 01:08:36
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
Big mistake if they kill these guys. I have friends that used to be in a
militia and I would have them tell me how the government was scared of them and it was only a matter of time before they started getting killed by agents of the government. I was told they were willing to fight and die against the loss of their rights so their kids didn't have to. They carried around a pocket version of the Constitution and would quote the Fedralist Papers to me. Their group of about 100 or so had grey urban camaflauge BDU's, ID cards that closely mimicked Army ID cards. They would receive copies of some kind of national militia news magazine, and were excited to show me their group featured in one. They would do drills with their group like a regular Guard unit, all the while saying it was for the defense of the Constitution.
So you had friends that were "tacticool" basically.
Slightly Off-Topic, but is carrying around a copy of the Constitution and killing people better than killing people while carrying a Koran or the Bible? Obviously the former has never happened in any serious number, but as an American I'm not sure I really want to delve into that answer.
The one thing I do think is funny is all the derp comments online that are amazed a "blue" state like Oregon could have large numbers of radical libretarians and right-wingers. It's almost as if they've never spent any time in the PNW.
But seriously we were all guessing for this to happen in Idaho before Oregon, right? Even though they are right there next to each other. Why are there so many gorgeous women in Idaho or for that matter all of the PNW? Is it the fresh air? The conifers maybe? Is it that decisdous trees produce less beautiful animals in their area? Elk are kinda more majestic than whitetails, but I don't envy quartering one and backpacking it out.
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2016/01/06 01:38:50
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
Big mistake if they kill these guys. I have friends that used to be in a
militia and I would have them tell me how the government was scared of them and it was only a matter of time before they started getting killed by agents of the government. I was told they were willing to fight and die against the loss of their rights so their kids didn't have to. They carried around a pocket version of the Constitution and would quote the Fedralist Papers to me. Their group of about 100 or so had grey urban camaflauge BDU's, ID cards that closely mimicked Army ID cards. They would receive copies of some kind of national militia news magazine, and were excited to show me their group featured in one. They would do drills with their group like a regular Guard unit, all the while saying it was for the defense of the Constitution.
So you had friends that were "tacticool" basically.
Slightly Off-Topic, but is carrying around a copy of the Constitution and killing people better than killing people while carrying a Koran or the Bible? Obviously the former has never happened in any serious number, but as an American I'm not sure I really want to delve into that answer.
The one thing I do think is funny is all the derp comments online that are amazed a "blue" state like Oregon could have large numbers of radical libretarians and right-wingers. It's almost as if they've never spent any time in the PNW.
But seriously we were all guessing for this to happen in Idaho before Oregon, right? Even though they are right there next to each other. Why are there so many gorgeous women in Idaho or for that matter all of the PNW? Is it the fresh air? The conifers maybe? Is it that decisdous trees produce less beautiful animals in their area? Elk are kinda more majestic than whitetails, but I don't envy quartering one and backpacking it out.
These guys I know were straight up militia, and they were talking a good game to themselves about being willing to die to preserve the Constitution for their kids. I almost believe they had in their minds this image of the movie to be made of their heroic sacrifice, complete with a stirring score. Nine tenths of them were derps, and the ones that are my friends discovered this after about four months as members and quit. The thing to become the final straw was when discussions began coming up about grabbing people's food storage in the event of a major disaster happening.
2016/01/06 02:09:43
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
They didn't have the "Veterans of Unpopular Wars" segment with they guy losing his eye to an umbrella in a Mai-Tai in Grenada readily available on youtube so I went with another Abe Simpson quote.
2016/01/06 04:46:44
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
hotsauceman1 wrote: So, because my feed is full of college students, im seeing some interesting comments.
One being that it is only white people who have the right to be armed, while the other is comparing how Black Lives Matter protestors are regularly beaton by police for half of what these guys are doing, when I cant find any example of that in which it wasnt violence met with force.
after this year you must be deliberately ignoring any stories that go against your preconceived notions.
so just this last year blacks have had a naked man gunned down, people with toy guns in an open carry state gunned down in seconds, and a sweet lil ol lady gunned down just for opening the door when the cops showed up, they get gunned down when they surrender or if they go along peacefully they get executed or beaten in their cells. Then there's the whole black males receiving the harshest of prison sentences. America has a long way to go to resolve is racism.
when blacks tried what the terrorists in oregon are doing the police responded by dropping a bomb from a helicopter, and they were only occupying their house.
black people who use guns in self-defense have been disproportionately penalized. African Americans in Stand Your Ground states are 354 percent less likely to be justified for killing in self-defense. And studies show that police are more likely to use physical force against black people.
so yes only white people are protected under the 2nd, as soon as any group of black men get them they're labeled as terrorist.
2016/01/06 06:10:20
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
I agree, it was as outrageuos as what the Federal government did at Waco when all those white children and adults were burned alive over a siege resulting from weapons violations.
It seems like they learned some lessons in the past twenty years.
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2016/01/06 09:23:08
Subject: Re:Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
Cannot help but think the language is perhaps a bit ...err..... optimistic ? .. something like that anyway.
hearts are in the right place I guess.
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2016/01/06 11:14:26
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
Militia will vary widely from a group who chill at bills place every other weekend, watch sports and do some hunting to a full blown military esque group with training, organisation and capabilities of a small military unit.
Going to be a whole spectrum, not all people in tacticool gear or real semi military units, many, both and many between.
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2016/01/06 11:50:05
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
Simply airdrop some THC enriched snacks (chocolate, gummies, etc...). But, don't provide the doritos, funyuns, and twinkies...
When they run out of the munchies on hand... dude... its over.
Good idea, but wrong execution. Airdrop laxative enriched snacks.
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2016/01/06 11:55:16
Subject: Domestic Terrorists Take Over Federal Building in Oregon
Simply airdrop some THC enriched snacks (chocolate, gummies, etc...). But, don't provide the doritos, funyuns, and twinkies...
When they run out of the munchies on hand... dude... its over.
Good idea, but wrong execution. Airdrop laxative enriched snacks.
Airr drop thousands of twinkies but only one Twinkie of the thousands is not filled with foam.
Hunger games.
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
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I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
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