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Given that it's an estimated 4 week preview I suspect the Kickstarter will launch in about 5 weeks (with the previews being extended past 4 weeks if Kickstarter isn't ready).

Erebus Studios wrote:
Cool idea, and mantic are great with their community, but Mantic is the last company I can think of that should produce a game for a more serious gritty setting.

*cough* *couch* Cryptozoic *hack* *hurl* *gag*

I'm just happy that a non-suck game of TWD will *finally* be made. I've yet to read of a TWD boardgame that's either mechanically enjoyable, or thematically correct:

Based on what's been shown so far, i'm not sure how you can assume that this game will 100% definitely be mechanically enjoyable and thematically correct?

I'm not saying it won't be, it's that not enough is known about it to make that determination at this time.

Did I say 100%? After Daedleh's post I'm optimistic. I'm certainly happier to read his post than the BGG reviews of Cryptozoic's Ghostbusters game (another licensed game with miniatures) and current TDW games on the market.

Of course, you can't leap to conclusions based on preview games.

But, it's a fair amount to go on (comments from people who have actually played the game), and I think a good reason to be at the very least cautiously optimistic about it!

 Azazelx wrote:

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

Maybe a few, but generally speaking TWD merch I have seen is pretty clearly designated as either comic-related or show-related. The comic-related stuff has comic artwork all over it while show related-products feature images of the actors or stills from the show. I doubt too many will be confused. If you don't see Andrew Lincoln on the box art it ain't show related. I think most TWD fans are aware of the distinct divide between the two variants of the story.

That'd be hardcore fans through to the moderately well-informed. Again the viewer numbers for this thing are too big to make any kind of assumptions based on "most" viewers or even that 1%.

Sure, but I guess I am giving people the benefit of the doubt. I imagine people who are familiar with TWD should be able to figure out this game is based on the comic and not the TV show from how the final product will be presented.

I watch the TV show, but never bothered with the comics. I have given up comics years ago, and though my collection is larger than most stores I've been in I just haven't had the urge to go back to that. Rick missing a hand and carl with only one eye.....I'll stick to my Manopera . Besides the zombicide figures are close enough for me. Now if a Zombicide cartoon came out on TV..........

You can pick up the TWD Compendiums at a good price and conveniently on Amazon. Comics are expensive, but the compendiums knock down the price to a buck per issue. The first compendium is 48 issues for $36. On top of this, you can wait for the Amazon holiday discounts, which knock off another 25% or more. Best entertainment I've had in *years*.

I kind of like the idea of the dismemberment slash missing eye. May have to read the comics. No Darryl though?


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Huh sounds like a fair price really. More likely to read on phone or tablet though

No darryl but lots of better characters . And the ones we know are far more fleshed out and damaged

But is Darryl's brother in the books?

No.

There's a guy in the comics similar in appearance to Daryl, is a biker, wears biker jacket, uses a crossbow. But he's not Daryl. Merle neither.

He may have inspired the Daryl character though, or been inspired by Daryl, depending on who came first, the comic character or Daryl on the show.

This comic book character has already been introduced on the show.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
No.

There's a guy in the comics similar in appearance to Daryl, is a biker, wears biker jacket, uses a crossbow. But he's not Daryl. Merle neither.

He may have inspired the Daryl character though, or been inspired by Daryl, depending on who came first, the comic character or Daryl on the show.

This comic book character has already been introduced on the show.

That guy showed up in the show last season as well.

edit: Last season meaning the episodes we just watched, if that wasn't clear.

No he hasn't. Dwight has only been featured in one episode so far, Always Accountable, S06E06.

 GrimDork wrote:
I kind of like the idea of the dismemberment slash missing eye. May have to read the comics. No Darryl though?


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Huh sounds like a fair price really. More likely to read on phone or tablet though

Check ebay, I got a copy of compendium 1 in great condition for $20 shipped.

Be prepared though, having just watched the show some of the events happen in different order in the comic.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
No he hasn't. Dwight has only been featured in one episode so far, Always Accountable, S06E06.

I meant last season as in the season we were just watching. So you just confirmed that.

But the 'last season' is still the current season. We're halfway through, its just on the mid-season break.

'Last Season' was actually Season 5.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
But the 'last season' is still the current season. We're halfway through, its just on the mid-season break.

'Last Season' was actually Season 5.

Tomato, tomato.

 pretre wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
But the 'last season' is still the current season. We're halfway through, its just on the mid-season break.

'Last Season' was actually Season 5.

Tomato, tomato.

Season 6 Season 6.

=/= Last Season.

While somewhat fascinating, not really On Topic here.

There's plenty of places to talk about that minutia elsewhere.

Thanks!

 agnosto wrote:
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Be prepared though, having just watched the show some of the events happen in different order in the comic.

Or not at all.

I've been reading TWD since issue # 1. It was on my pull list and I've been getting it since I pre-ordered # 1 from Previews. Seems a looooooong time ago now.

The TV show is good, but does not follow the comic, nor does it have all the same characters. Some of the storylines have the same theme, but that's about it. Makes it good from my point of view as it means I effectively get 2 totally different Walking Dead stories to follow. If the TV had matched the comic, I'd have got bored by now from knowing the story.

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Will I be buying this game from Mantic? Well, that all depends.
If Mantic go all CMON/Zombicide and start releasing a million character sculpts and exclusives, I just won't be bothered at all.

What's annoyed me the most of all. They've removed all the Zombie AI rules from the latest KS2 of Deadzone which were from KS1 for some reason or other. But now they plan on making Walking Dead which sounds like PvP with Zombie NPCs - just like gaming in Deadzone 1 Contagion (RIP). As DZ2 backers we were paying for updated and improving the rules. What we've got is a watered down version and the stuff we played the most is being removed to go to Walking Dead.


Part of the Kickstarter statement for Deadzone 2 was;

"With this Kickstarter we’re also taking the opportunity to revisit the main rulebook, putting it into a glorious hardback format whilst making a few changes, including:"

And missing from the list below that statement should have been;

"Removing all rules for Zombie AI games as we're taking that idea to a licensed product coming soon"

:-(

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

Spoiler:

 agnosto wrote:
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Be prepared though, having just watched the show some of the events happen in different order in the comic.

Or not at all.

I've been reading TWD since issue # 1. It was on my pull list and I've been getting it since I pre-ordered # 1 from Previews. Seems a looooooong time ago now.

The TV show is good, but does not follow the comic, nor does it have all the same characters. Some of the storylines have the same theme, but that's about it. Makes it good from my point of view as it means I effectively get 2 totally different Walking Dead stories to follow. If the TV had matched the comic, I'd have got bored by now from knowing the story.

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Will I be buying this game from Mantic? Well, that all depends.
If Mantic go all CMON/Zombicide and start releasing a million character sculpts and exclusives, I just won't be bothered at all.

What's annoyed me the most of all. They've removed all the Zombie AI rules from the latest KS2 of Deadzone which were from KS1 for some reason or other. But now they plan on making Walking Dead which sounds like PvP with Zombie NPCs - just like gaming in Deadzone 1 Contagion (RIP). As DZ2 backers we were paying for updated and improving the rules. What we've got is a watered down version and the stuff we played the most is being removed to go to Walking Dead.


Part of the Kickstarter statement for Deadzone 2 was;

"With this Kickstarter we’re also taking the opportunity to revisit the main rulebook, putting it into a glorious hardback format whilst making a few changes, including:"

And missing from the list below that statement should have been;

"Removing all rules for Zombie AI games as we're taking that idea to a licensed product coming soon"

:-(

That was my thought as well. "This sounds an awful lot like Deadzone without lasers."

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But we'll see.

Ugh. Thats a bit scummy.

I'm not too bothered by the disappearance of the zombie stuff from Deadzone. Hopefully it still shows up in some form or another in the Compendium.

Doubtful, but still hopeful.

Contagion was one of my favorite parts of the original DZ campaign, so I don't mind it being incorporated/ improved upon for TWD.

Also giving me a bit of a Frostgrave vibe, what with 2 persistent (hopefully for this as well) gangs scrounging around for loot while avoiding wandering monsters.

A Skirmish campaign game would actually work well - maybe I should pictch it Osprey

Good thing I couldn't care less about TWD or more zombie games. Even if it was some other thing that made me hot and bothered, Mantic and I are no longer on speaking terms. Good luck to those who decide to take another ride with Mantic...I'm out.

 totalfailure wrote:
Good thing I couldn't care less about TWD or more zombie games. Even if it was some other thing that made me hot and bothered, Mantic and I are no longer on speaking terms. Good luck to those who decide to take another ride with Mantic...I'm out.

Thanks for the good luck wishes. Good luck also to you in your future endeavors.

Nothing says how little you care like taking the time to tell everyone how you don't care.

My Gaming group is full of Walking Dead and Zombicide fans, so they all seem pretty pumped about this.

Worst case scenario is we get Walking Dead themed Survivor models to use in other games.

^Yeah. Now I don't have convert my own Michone, and I guess the rest of them... Guess I'll still have to DIY Darryl and maybe Meryl (Merle? However you spell that), but the later only cause knife hands rule.

 adamsouza wrote:
Nothing says how little you care like taking the time to tell everyone how you don't care.

Well, I think for KS, it's important to know the track record of companies starting a new KS, and Mantic doesn't have a very good one. Dungeon Saga's base game was well-accepted by BGG, but the Adventurer's Companion was typo-ridden and lacking substance, and resin pieces poorly made (eg. fingerprints on tiles). DS tiles were double-sided with the same artwork (!) and the tiles didn't fit the clips. I'm a fan of the license, not the company. "Mantic: At least we're not Cryptozoic".

How were the Mars Attacks figures? I'm **completely** guessing that that will be the format used for TWD. MA was aimed more towards the mass market than their other hobby game lines.

Oh, and, yeah, digital's a good idea for the compendiums. They're pretty darn bulky! Comixology also has TWD in digital format: https://www.comixology.com/The-Walking-Dead/comics-series/785