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I guess Nisse hacker (along with others) is going to get a lot more cooler. I'll need more REM to go along. Infinity is starting to feel more like MtG, but in a good way, if they provide decent variety of sideboard profiles to go along your specialization.

Even PanO vs Nomads in a info war might not get so one sided. This is a really promising aspect on where the game could go.

It seems like a massive missed opportunity if they don't present an official way to integrate those RPG minis into the wargame. They might sell decently just as cool figures, but at the very least they should do something like pick a LI profile from the appropriate faction and put "so and so is an official proxy for such and such" in the rules somewhere.

Sure, people will probably use them as proxies anyway. But if you're not going to give them their own stats, official proxy status would be the cheapest and easiest way to integrate them.

 TheWaspinator wrote:
It seems like a massive missed opportunity if they don't present an official way to integrate those RPG minis into the wargame. They might sell decently just as cool figures, but at the very least they should do something like pick a LI profile from the appropriate faction and put "so and so is an official proxy for such and such" in the rules somewhere.

Sure, people will probably use them as proxies anyway. But if you're not going to give them their own stats, official proxy status would be the cheapest and easiest way to integrate them.

Okay, two things.

1. There is a way in the RPG to convert your character to a tabletop unit. It is not, for many reasons, ITS supported and is very much opponents permission, as you are simply creating a new model and is essentially homebrewing a unit. But it will be in the RPG rulebook.

2. The 'RPG' models were only available during the kickstarter. These models are faction specific HVT's, which have rules for use. Sure, they don't do anything, but they have a function. Everyone needs a HVT.

Was going to say, absolutely nothing to stop you using the RPG minis as HVT in ITS games.

In home/campaign games? The world is your oyster, if your gaming group is game then I'm sure there are loads of ideas you could come up with, or use the mini as a 'counts as' or objective perhaps.

New fire team options.

Fireteam Duo Tag's and HI.. All I can say is WOW!

Haris for Govads gives them some new utility, and explains the boxed set a little more.

Can't watch the video as I'm at work at the moment but part of me wants to see Joan of arc haris a couple of father Knights.

They only specifically mention Bagh Mari and Orcs as having Haris for Pan O I think.

FK get link duo. ORCs get Haris. In what sectorial though? They're not in any of the current ones - are ORCs svalarheiman? Carlos was specific that even with Haris as a skill you still need to play a sectorial to play a haris link.

Maybe they'll be in Svalarheima after all. I'd rather have them in Varuna, but if that leaves more room for something new. Who am I to say no.

Father Knight and Santiago were mentioned as having duo. Usable in generic army as well.

So EVO has auto allways active abitilies now and a Hacker does have to choose what one before it used.

Need to see the rules page over the pic of the guide at the back of the book, but so far it looks like Netrods are going to be dropping with a 75% chance of hitting the target.

And B2 (or other bonus) REM from deployment is great.

With WIP reroll, now there is no reason to leave home with out one.

My contribution to Infinity Week, a preview of the changes to the Riot Grrls unit in Human Sphere N3: http://www.beastsofwar.com/featured/riot-grrls-bakunin-bonanza/

 Knight wrote:
Maybe they'll be in Svalarheima after all. I'd rather have them in Varuna, but if that leaves more room for something new. Who am I to say no.

Father Knight and Santiago were mentioned as having duo. Usable in generic army as well.

They might still be in Varuna, I don't think we have any info either way.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Knight wrote:
Maybe they'll be in Svalarheima after all. I'd rather have them in Varuna, but if that leaves more room for something new. Who am I to say no.

Father Knight and Santiago were mentioned as having duo. Usable in generic army as well.

They might still be in Varuna, I don't think we have any info either way.

We have more info than you might think. Look at the naming conventions and themes given to the various Sectorials.

"Orc" is a mythological name given to armor designed and built on Svalarheima by a company whose initials are ORC. Svalarheima has the Nisse and Jotum as their only known named stuff.
Varuna, on the other hand, is a sectorial that we know is themed around their signature force which is a counterterrorist group that employs the Kamau and Cutters regularly. Kamau, Cutters, and Croc-Men fit in here while Svalarheima gets Nisse, Jotum, and are almost guaranteed to be getting Orcs--unless they opt instead to have Orcs be designated as a troop exclusively deployed on Terra with the Earth Bastion Army.

As a PanO Svalarheima fan, I'd be really happy if that sectorial gets ORCs in it too...

Fair enough! Svalarheima sounds more likely then. I always thought they were going to be Varuna for some reason. Also I never thought how few Svalarheima specific units we have so far.

Every unit will be in a sectorial, so ORCs will be in either Svalarheim or Varuna. Svalarheim seems the logical choice. Now, the LI for Svalarheim, that is a mystery. We know the MI will be Nisses, and the TAG is obvious. Still leaves a lot of holes though.

It looks very much like Bostria was not kidding when he said (supposedly) that "Infinity will be a different game after HSN3." Also "plenty of powerful, new, intelligent combos." Sounds like these duos thing.

The point is though that neither Svalarheima nor Varuna are in HSN3 for all we know. So the Orcs with Haris are for one of the sectorials in the book which are ASA, MO and NeoTerra. Of those 3 Orcs in NeoTerra seem to make the most sense and that is an interesting development imho.

Oh, forgot they're adding only Onyx and USA.

Duo and Haris Asawira? Haris Govads?

I... just... huh? Ever since Govads were released I thought they'd make a better Haris link than Core link. Asawira I thought would have been perfect Haris candidates when they introduced the rule.

Now to pop down to the FLGS to see if they have that Govad box still.

I like that they are adding more Haris and Duo links to make armies more order efficient. Cheerleading is a popular tactic, and very valid in vanilla, but in a sectorial I feel it shouldn't be needed. Adding more different types of links to more varied units makes it less necessary in a sectorial, which I like.

edit - Am I the only one who noticed how badly BoW handle miniatures? In the first video the straight up dropped the model with Bostria saying 'Angel is going to kill you'. Jokingly obviously. In this one the other BoW guy starts moving the Rodoks and Umbra about and Bostra calmly asks him to not touch them, they're Angels, so he stops. For like a minute. Then he's back fumbling with them, sliding them into each other when he's moving them about the table.

Reminds me of that guy that always comes up to you in the FLGS to pick your models up and have a look despite how many times you ask them not to.

Ooooooh... hackers can operate in a link team without dropping out.

So.

Excited.

Should "Haris" be "Harass"?

Haris is arabic (?) for guardian.

Excited to see some of this stuff in games.

Umbra Samaritan. Looks like everyone was right about the "smoke" effect. It's jump, slide, obscure... all of it.




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edit - Am I the only one who noticed how badly BoW handle miniatures? In the first video the straight up dropped the model with Bostria saying 'Angel is going to kill you'. Jokingly obviously. In this one the other BoW guy starts moving the Rodoks and Umbra about and Bostra calmly asks him to not touch them, they're Angels, so he stops. For like a minute. Then he's back fumbling with them, sliding them into each other when he's moving them about the table.

Reminds me of that guy that always comes up to you in the FLGS to pick your models up and have a look despite how many times you ask them not to.

lol, noticed that too, drove me nuts. I tend to be pretty easy-going about people picking up my minis, but if someone says "no", that's the law. Back off.

I was also happy that Bostria brought a translator. Love the accent, but sometimes I have to repeat bits three times to understand what he's saying.


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Thanks 'trees.

Harith or Haris is a common Arabic name (Arabic: حارس و حارث ), Harith meaning "the lion which digs the earth" and Haris meaning "guardian or guard"

Holo trickery.

 Mastiff wrote:
Ooooooh... hackers can operate in a link team without dropping out.

They always could, it's just Entire Order Skills that (currently) drop you out.

I like the Holo2 changes. They aren't huge, technically folks can still jump the gun and have a 2-in-3 chance of eating a normal roll, but in general they wont risk that outside of a few edge cases. So this means they are either eating a -3 to hit or they are giving you free reign on the next action. That is a powerful tool and the exact kind of thing that creates work-compression situations for the enemy to untangle. The simple act of spending a short skill precipitates in to the enemy's choice of reactions and forces them to make a really damn hard decision. Guess and risk a fate worse than death (normal roll in the face of the enemy), or wait and suffer a penalty or not react at all. The latter is deadly against CQB troops, but if you decide to bite the bullet then 2-in-3 times you will be firing at air while they open up on you without fear.

But the best part? Make sure you hide with your last action and it costs you nothing to go back in to holo mode. This makes Holo2 very order efficient compared to camo. It misses out on the constant baseline debuff, but basically allows you to always have a cheap way of bringing the tokens back to begin the whole guessing game anew.

BoW also has a showing of HS's updates to Kanluwen's favorite Nomads!

http://www.beastsofwar.com/featured/riot-grrls-bakunin-bonanza/

Oh wow Holo 2 can stack with Holo 1? Could it always do that? So you can have a Holo 2 model use Holo 1 to look like another model, then use Holo 2 to spawn 2 of that faked model. Requires a lot of repeated models but that's mean.

I don't think it could.

I am looking forward to it though!