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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 07:17:06
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Krazed Killa Kan
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http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Oathbound-Throng
21 Dwarves for $170?
Are you fething joking? Are they made from diamonds, and unicorn tears?
$8 for 1 dwarf. WTF?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 07:21:53
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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I don't know what the rules are for these guys are but my guess they are good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 07:22:52
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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And you're not even on the Australian site
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 07:24:29
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Krazed Killa Kan
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My prediction:
AoS = 3 year lifespan.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 07:29:38
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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Basing the price of something mostly around the rules rather than quality and quantity of models and the cost of manufactre/distribution is an ass-backwards way of doing things.
'I have a plain 1" disc of plastic on sale for $200 - comes with fantastic, must have rules for your free ruleset game!!!'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 07:37:59
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Powerful Spawning Champion
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Are you really still surprised? This has been the trend with all of the new AoS stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 07:50:02
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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I...oh, wow. My first thought was that yes, this was yet another victim of the random transport to Australia.
Gotta love GW's idea of a low price-point skirmish game - where you buy hardbound background update books every couple months and cough up eight bucks a dwarf.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 08:17:44
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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toasteroven wrote:Are you really still surprised? This has been the trend with all of the new AoS stuff.
I know all of GW's release for AOS have been massively overestimated price wise, but this is even more extreme than usual.
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DC:90+S+G++MB++I--Pww211+D++A++/fWD390R++T(F)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 09:05:37
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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These guys have just one life point and their ward save of 4++ is not a real life savior.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 09:24:07
Subject: Re:This can't be serious.... right?
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Dakka Veteran
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Aw my gawd, this is horrible! I can't believe my eyes. Boo!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 09:39:08
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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The price there is really bumped up by the Auric Runemaster who is £18. I remember feeling Grimm Burlokkson was pretty over priced at £13 when I bought him the other day - guess I get it too good with my Vampire Counts heroes that are £9 each.
well, I bought a box of the Vulkite Bezerkers - I can live with £35 for 10 models (Witch Elf pricing I guess). But I don't buy massive amounts of miniatures like some people do.
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Bye bye Dakkadakka, happy hobbying! I really enjoyed my time on here. Opinions were always my own :-) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 10:27:17
Subject: Re:This can't be serious.... right?
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Using Object Source Lighting
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I wonder how well can these mix with avatars of war ones, that would be a great modelling project that I would have fun with.
Not only it would bulk up the numbers but it would look bad ass.
Price is steep yes but with that set you would only need to add 1 lizard to call it a day for AoS? I mean your not going to want more than that right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 10:42:43
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Next to the previous version of dwarves, these guys are a head height taller and a fair bit more bulky.
Like as if the scale has changed somewhat.
Still though, nice looking models and the price is on par with current stuff.
I may be biased though as I'm used to paying £80 - £100 for 10 of the Diaz daemonettes lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 11:16:34
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Skillful Swordmaster
The Shadowlands of Nagarythe
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Jackal wrote:
I may be biased though as I'm used to paying £80 - £100 for 10 of the Diaz daemonettes lol.
Please let's not compare the two
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 11:24:39
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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toasteroven wrote:Are you really still surprised? This has been the trend with all of the new AoS stuff.
How else did anyone thing GW can make money off AoS. The rules are free, the game uses smaller armies than WFHB. Simple maths shows us that the books and models have to be a more expensive, and they are.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 12:51:19
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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wuestenfux wrote:These guys have just one life point and their ward save of 4++ is not a real life savior.
I remember a few whole units in late 8th ed getting 5++ ward saves for crap like being fast (witch elves come to mind), but has this trend gotten worse with AoS?
Does anyone know exactly when ward saves became a mundane thing?
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 13:12:44
Subject: Re:This can't be serious.... right?
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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103 pounds on English site, geez that's approx 4.50 a model.
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men.
Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 13:17:16
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Someone on dakkadakka was very rude to me and told me that if I cant afford $8 per model then i should not play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 13:36:59
Subject: Re:This can't be serious.... right?
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Dakka Veteran
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We should all organize a protest meeting in front of warhammer world. We should demand that GW comes up with a way to implement equal opportunities for people around the globe to be able to exercise their constitutional right of being able to pay Warhammer. Failing to do that they should suffer the appropriate governmental punishment for monopolizing an essential commodity. Bring down the cartel!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 14:13:44
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Filch wrote:Someone on dakkadakka was very rude to me and told me that if I cant afford $8 per model then i should not play.
I don't consider $8 a model very expensive at all, but the issue is I'd never pay $8 a model for those models.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/01/17 14:13:57
Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 14:14:05
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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jonolikespie wrote: wuestenfux wrote:These guys have just one life point and their ward save of 4++ is not a real life savior.
I remember a few whole units in late 8th ed getting 5++ ward saves for crap like being fast (witch elves come to mind), but has this trend gotten worse with AoS?
Does anyone know exactly when ward saves became a mundane thing?
Witch elves only got a 5++ if the cauldron of blood was in the unit.
Rules shouldn't affect the price, but look at Sigismund's price/rules compared to the other non-primarch character models...
Not feeling these models at all. The paint job on the site doesn't seem to be to a very good standard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 14:29:04
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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I find it wonderful that i can log on to dakka and still see people defending GW's pricing. The company is on a downward spiral to bankruptcy. Lost revenue due to horrible rules and arbitrary price hikes? Hike the price some more and come out with more horrible rules. Eventually they will over fish the whales and then...... Age of The Emperor 40k (3 space marines for 50 USD...coming 2017).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 14:34:41
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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JamesY wrote:Not feeling these models at all. The paint job on the site doesn't seem to be to a very good standard.
I have a feeling they would look much better if painted to a good standard, not GW's current box art standard. I wasn't the most impressed by the marauders that came in the starter set for AoS when I saw them, but painting them myself I found the anatomy and the musculature really good and fun to paint. Sadly with the price of these dwarves I'm just not willing to get one to try.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 15:16:14
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Evasive Eshin Assassin
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Table wrote:I find it wonderful that i can log on to dakka and still see people whining and complaining aboutGW's pricing.
fixed that for you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 15:26:23
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Kilkrazy wrote: toasteroven wrote:Are you really still surprised? This has been the trend with all of the new AoS stuff.
How else did anyone thing GW can make money off AoS. The rules are free, the game uses smaller armies than WFHB. Simple maths shows us that the books and models have to be a more expensive, and they are.
I figured they'd want to price the game as to attract a lot of new customers. The pricing on all of the AOS stuff (bar the good deal on the starter) seems incredibly high even compared to 40k. I don't know how they'll be able to bring people in on the new models; it seems like only the old models being sold at discount would attract people.
That, and I don't understand the marketing plan. The game is marketed in part to a younger audience, but how would children (even with hefty allowances) be able to purchase these models? I can't even imagine parents being convinced to pick these dwarves up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 15:30:03
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Lady of the Lake
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Spinner wrote:
I...oh, wow. My first thought was that yes, this was yet another victim of the random transport to Australia.
Gotta love GW's idea of a low price-point skirmish game - where you buy hardbound background update books every couple months and cough up eight bucks a dwarf.
Yeh it's only $290 here.
That's $13.80 a dwarf and great news!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 15:44:59
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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It's almost as if the prices just keep going up
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 16:30:28
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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I liked it better my way. Less white knights riding around.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 16:31:59
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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Accolade wrote: Kilkrazy wrote: toasteroven wrote:Are you really still surprised? This has been the trend with all of the new AoS stuff.
How else did anyone thing GW can make money off AoS. The rules are free, the game uses smaller armies than WFHB. Simple maths shows us that the books and models have to be a more expensive, and they are.
I figured they'd want to price the game as to attract a lot of new customers. The pricing on all of the AOS stuff (bar the good deal on the starter) seems incredibly high even compared to 40k. I don't know how they'll be able to bring people in on the new models; it seems like only the old models being sold at discount would attract people.
That, and I don't understand the marketing plan. The game is marketed in part to a younger audience, but how would children (even with hefty allowances) be able to purchase these models? I can't even imagine parents being convinced to pick these dwarves up.
Yes, it's something that confuses me too - in fact the rising prices on new kits only makes the older WHFB ranges seem increasingly better value lol - only £15 for 10 Empire State troops? Bargain!
As someone who collects mostly the old WHFB ranges it makes me happy they'll stay the same price, but the price discrepancy between the new kits and the old just gets bigger and bigger.
Still the 'Start Collecting' boxes are a great idea and solve most of these issues in my eyes. They need them for all the armies.
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Bye bye Dakkadakka, happy hobbying! I really enjoyed my time on here. Opinions were always my own :-) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/17 16:40:58
Subject: This can't be serious.... right?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Filch wrote:Someone on dakkadakka was very rude to me and told me that if I cant afford $8 per model then i should not play.
It all depends on what you said or how you said it.
Accolade wrote: Kilkrazy wrote: toasteroven wrote:Are you really still surprised? This has been the trend with all of the new AoS stuff.
How else did anyone thing GW can make money off AoS. The rules are free, the game uses smaller armies than WFHB. Simple maths shows us that the books and models have to be a more expensive, and they are.
I figured they'd want to price the game as to attract a lot of new customers. The pricing on all of the AOS stuff (bar the good deal on the starter) seems incredibly high even compared to 40k. I don't know how they'll be able to bring people in on the new models; it seems like only the old models being sold at discount would attract people.
That, and I don't understand the marketing plan. The game is marketed in part to a younger audience, but how would children (even with hefty allowances) be able to purchase these models? I can't even imagine parents being convinced to pick these dwarves up.
Yes I was attracted to AoS, but haven't really bought anything because the prices are too high for me. I am not sure who AoS is aimed for at all. I know it's not me.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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