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2016/02/08 03:41:08
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
Also I think the winner is the Iron Wolves by far.
For 1,500pts you can get 2 TWC Battle Leaders, 4x5 Blood Claws in Razors w/Power Axes & Flamers, 8 Land Speeders upgraded to taste, and 2 Long Fang units of 3 with 2 heavies and a melta in Razors.
That's a solid amount of firepower.
Yea but some of us have no interest in rebuilding our 5th ed lists Know what I mean? I was only hoping for dreads to get the appropriate attacks. Isn't looking good though.
Also I think the winner is the Iron Wolves by far.
For 1,500pts you can get 2 TWC Battle Leaders, 4x5 Blood Claws in Razors w/Power Axes & Flamers, 8 Land Speeders upgraded to taste, and 2 Long Fang units of 3 with 2 heavies and a melta in Razors.
That's a solid amount of firepower.
Yea but some of us have no interest in rebuilding our 5th ed lists Know what I mean? I was only hoping for dreads to get the appropriate attacks. Isn't looking good though.
Yeah, it is a shame when the melee focused Dreads (SW Venerable Dread with axe and shield, and double-fisted Furioso Dreadnought or Death Company Dreadnought) have fewer attacks than a single-fisted regular SM Dread. It is something that can and should be fixed either in an Errata or in the codex update. Major fail on GW's part.
Also I think the winner is the Iron Wolves by far.
For 1,500pts you can get 2 TWC Battle Leaders, 4x5 Blood Claws in Razors w/Power Axes & Flamers, 8 Land Speeders upgraded to taste, and 2 Long Fang units of 3 with 2 heavies and a melta in Razors.
That's a solid amount of firepower.
Yea but some of us have no interest in rebuilding our 5th ed lists Know what I mean? I was only hoping for dreads to get the appropriate attacks. Isn't looking good though.
I couldn't agree more. I was happy with what I was playing. I just wanted a few tweaks. Am I the only one who has been playing against Necrons with reanimate 4+, Eldar scatter bikes, Tau gun line over watch while being a good sport . Just waiting for my turn in the sun. And then wow let down. Yes some of the formations could be good, but I have no interest in 8 Land speeders or 5 drop pods. I did not want much. Dreads with the extra attack, ccw weapons cheaper for greyhunters. Heck I would have been happy with Canis making fen wolves troops again.
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2016/02/08 04:39:38
Subject: Re:Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
Zagra wrote: Hey, guys. Does anyone now if Krom is actually getting a clampack as rumored?
Either that or he is being rereleased in another boxed set. GW doesn't make stats for characters without models, so it only makes sense for them to release him again.
You know, the Blackmane formation rumors sounded familiar, so I did some checking. This was an old "Voice of the Chaos Gods" rumor, a dude who just made stuff up:
"Ragnar Blackmane
When all Units in the detachment take Drop Pods as dedicated Transport, Ragnar will be free. Your Army may only take Unites with an Drop Pod option."
So close, but so far...
2016/02/08 06:29:10
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
Also I think the winner is the Iron Wolves by far.
For 1,500pts you can get 2 TWC Battle Leaders, 4x5 Blood Claws in Razors w/Power Axes & Flamers, 8 Land Speeders upgraded to taste, and 2 Long Fang units of 3 with 2 heavies and a melta in Razors.
That's a solid amount of firepower.
Well is jarl of Russ detachment still valid for us to run 6 HQs?
2016/02/08 07:03:20
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
Binabik15 wrote:Quick question: the old SW kit could be built as Blood Claws, Grey Hunters or Wolf Guard, right? Now the repacked kit can't build Wolf Guard anymore and you have to buy the more expensive 5 man kit?
One day I'll need a box to make some Space Bears, so I wan't to know if I have to rush out and get one of the old boxes.
kodos wrote:It is still the dame kit.
You can buy the Blood Claw Box and build 15 Wolf Guard if you want.
This is just that people don't have to buy 2 10 Marines Boxes to build 15 Blood Claws (or whatever GW think about it)
Kavish wrote:No. They have the exact same sprues in all the kits. Blood claws can be built as wolf guard and it's a lot cheaper (unless you only want 5).
I can only imagine GW's reasoning for doing it is to confuse people who don't know that it's the exact same sprues in all 3 kits. Trying to trick people who don't know in to buying the more expensive versions.
They *could* simply be trying to be nice and offer the 3 different sizes for people who are trying to round out a collection vs starting a collection, but I can't imagine they'd waste the shelf space having 3 kits when they can get away with 1 when realistically almost all sales are just going to be of the larger kits.
2016/02/08 07:33:37
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
This multi-part plastic kit contains 218 components with which to build ten Space Wolves miniatures. There are five different leg variations, six torso variants, five backpack variants and 28 variant heads, meaning there are an incredible number of options for personalising your pack - assemble them as Grey Hunters, Blood Claws or Wolf Guard!
At $37 for 10 models, that's as good as it gets for any modern plastic MPP GW infantry kit. I think it might actually be the best value kit that there is -- boxes like Necron Warriors are much inferior in terms of the number of variations you can build (essentially none), and even decent kits made around the same time like Kabalites have a lot less in terms of configurability.
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2016/02/08 07:37:22
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
The "Space Wolves" one has that description, the Wolf Guard and Blood Claw ones don't.
If that's not the reason I have no idea why GW would bother making 3 kits. After all they killed WHFB because it wasn't selling enough and apparently costing too much to keep, so why are they wasting shelf space with identical models?
2016/02/08 07:40:30
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
Talys wrote: At $37 for 10 models, that's as good as it gets for any modern plastic MPP GW infantry kit. I think it might actually be the best value kit that there is -- boxes like Necron Warriors are much inferior in terms of the number of variations you can build (essentially none), and even decent kits made around the same time like Kabalites have a lot less in terms of configurability.
The $50 for 15 is even better. You are paying $18.5/5 with the $37 pack, $16.67/5 with the $50 pack. But the $50 pack is online only, so GW is still making more money in the end.
casvalremdeikun wrote: But the $50 pack is online only, so GW is still making more money in the end.
Didn't notice that, that sucks, will be cheaper to buy the 10 large box from a discounter.
Yup. I was considering getting two of the $50 sets to round out my Drakeslayers. But if I get three of the $37 sets at 20-25% off, I will get a much better deal.
AllSeeingSkink wrote: The "Space Wolves" one has that description, the Wolf Guard and Blood Claw ones don't.
If that's not the reason I have no idea why GW would bother making 3 kits. After all they killed WHFB because it wasn't selling enough and apparently costing too much to keep, so why are they wasting shelf space with identical models?
These kits are not on our order forms, they're Direct Only.
2016/02/08 09:14:57
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
AllSeeingSkink wrote: The "Space Wolves" one has that description, the Wolf Guard and Blood Claw ones don't.
If that's not the reason I have no idea why GW would bother making 3 kits. After all they killed WHFB because it wasn't selling enough and apparently costing too much to keep, so why are they wasting shelf space with identical models?
These kits are not on our order forms, they're Direct Only.
Yeah I see that now.
Does anyone know if the Long Fangs are any different to the ones we had before?
2016/02/08 09:33:52
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
Also I think the winner is the Iron Wolves by far.
For 1,500pts you can get 2 TWC Battle Leaders, 4x5 Blood Claws in Razors w/Power Axes & Flamers, 8 Land Speeders upgraded to taste, and 2 Long Fang units of 3 with 2 heavies and a melta in Razors.
That's a solid amount of firepower.
Yea but some of us have no interest in rebuilding our 5th ed lists Know what I mean? I was only hoping for dreads to get the appropriate attacks. Isn't looking good though.
SW will still struggle against the top tier armies in town.
By the way, I dislike the new Wulfen models - wolverine punks on crack.
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AllSeeingSkink wrote: The "Space Wolves" one has that description, the Wolf Guard and Blood Claw ones don't.
If that's not the reason I have no idea why GW would bother making 3 kits. After all they killed WHFB because it wasn't selling enough and apparently costing too much to keep, so why are they wasting shelf space with identical models?
These kits are not on our order forms, they're Direct Only.
Yeah I see that now.
Does anyone know if the Long Fangs are any different to the ones we had before?
The new entry on GW's site shows them with the larger bases but the same weapon options. Doesn't appear that they have any new gear and its the same mix of the old devastator and the grey hunter sprue. Interestingly enough the Skyclaw set is now a web store exclusive when it did have an actual box back when they released the 7th edition codex in 2014.
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2016/02/08 10:45:36
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
AllSeeingSkink wrote: The "Space Wolves" one has that description, the Wolf Guard and Blood Claw ones don't.
If that's not the reason I have no idea why GW would bother making 3 kits. After all they killed WHFB because it wasn't selling enough and apparently costing too much to keep, so why are they wasting shelf space with identical models?
These kits are not on our order forms, they're Direct Only.
Yeah I see that now.
Does anyone know if the Long Fangs are any different to the ones we had before?
The new entry on GW's site shows them with the larger bases but the same weapon options. Doesn't appear that they have any new gear and its the same mix of the old devastator and the grey hunter sprue. Interestingly enough the Skyclaw set is now a web store exclusive when it did have an actual box back when they released the 7th edition codex in 2014.
Weren't Skyclaws just a 5-man sprue of Blood Claws and the 5-jump pack sprue.
AllSeeingSkink wrote: The "Space Wolves" one has that description, the Wolf Guard and Blood Claw ones don't.
If that's not the reason I have no idea why GW would bother making 3 kits. After all they killed WHFB because it wasn't selling enough and apparently costing too much to keep, so why are they wasting shelf space with identical models?
These kits are not on our order forms, they're Direct Only.
Yeah I see that now.
Does anyone know if the Long Fangs are any different to the ones we had before?
The new entry on GW's site shows them with the larger bases but the same weapon options. Doesn't appear that they have any new gear and its the same mix of the old devastator and the grey hunter sprue. Interestingly enough the Skyclaw set is now a web store exclusive when it did have an actual box back when they released the 7th edition codex in 2014.
Weren't Skyclaws just a 5-man sprue of Blood Claws and the 5-jump pack sprue.
Yeah both the Skyclaw box and the Long Fang box had part of the Grey Hunter sprue plus the older Assault/Dev sprue.
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4000 Points
+ + 3000 Points "The Fiery Heart of the Emperor"
3500 Points "Void Kraken" Space Marines
3000 Points "Bard's Booze Cruise"
2016/02/08 10:53:07
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
wuestenfux wrote: SW will still struggle against the top tier armies in town.
By the way, I dislike the new Wulfen models - wolverine punks on crack.
I dunno. The decurion counter-charge sucks but some of the individual formation bonuses are pretty good. Obviously, the Ironwolves and Blackmanes stand out. I think people will just ally them into a CAD/CotGW/etc, and have good success. If anything, the Blackmane formation eliminates the variance of pod lists by itself. Pretty strong.
I'm also foolishly holding out hope that there is another bonus for the Champions of Fenris formation that we can't see in the screen-cap.
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2016/02/08 12:02:08
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
For those who were wondering about Krom I have only one thing to say, it's not because you're not part of the Cool Guy Club who is allowed to have its picture on the cover of magazines that you won't be released alongside them.
For those wondering about the new Techmarine, wouldn't it be awesome for the WD to tell you that you can use the new profile alongside the old one if you wish?
Eh, and I'm sure people would be very happy if, by total chance, a Start Collecting SW box would happen to be released at the same time (even if the discount would happen to be more AM box style than Tau Box style). We can only hope...
I'm saying that, I'm saying nothing of course. just some random rambling. Don't mind me. Nothing to see here.
2016/02/08 13:38:23
Subject: Space Wolves - Preorder Feb 6 2016 - The 13th Company Returns
AllSeeingSkink wrote: The "Space Wolves" one has that description, the Wolf Guard and Blood Claw ones don't.
If that's not the reason I have no idea why GW would bother making 3 kits. After all they killed WHFB because it wasn't selling enough and apparently costing too much to keep, so why are they wasting shelf space with identical models?
These kits are not on our order forms, they're Direct Only.
Yeah I see that now.
Does anyone know if the Long Fangs are any different to the ones we had before?
The new entry on GW's site shows them with the larger bases but the same weapon options. Doesn't appear that they have any new gear and its the same mix of the old devastator and the grey hunter sprue. Interestingly enough the Skyclaw set is now a web store exclusive when it did have an actual box back when they released the 7th edition codex in 2014.
Weren't Skyclaws just a 5-man sprue of Blood Claws and the 5-jump pack sprue.
Yep, it was because of the fact Skyclaws and Long fangs used the "old" Assault Marine and Devastator sprues that I was wondering if the Long Fangs had been updated to more current sprues. I guess not.
It means they're still producing the old Devestator and Assault Marine sprues for the sole purpose of outfitting the Space Wolves.
Know what I mean? I was only hoping for dreads to get the appropriate attacks. Isn't looking good though.
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7000+ Points Death Skullz
4000 Points
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+ 3000 Points "The Fiery Heart of the Emperor"
