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Since there's supposedly going to be starter and a blister released for each Faction in Feb, I imagine we'll see Groot to complete the GotG, Hulk perhaps as the extra Avenger... not sure who they could put in as a 5th X-man... I'd like to see Jean Grey or Storm, to complete the classic lineup.

Jean, Storm, Beast, or Ice Man are the 4 candidates I would say are logical.. I would prefer Beast if we're being honest but I would suspect Storm. Jean has been dead in the comics for a long while so they might steer clear for someone more in line with modern continuity.

Actually Jean and Hulk make sense if they are going to have the highest level heroes in Blisters. Isn't (wasn't) Jean with the Phoenix Force a cosmic level character?

 Siygess wrote:
Actually Jean and Hulk make sense if they are going to have the highest level heroes in Blisters. Isn't (wasn't) Jean with the Phoenix Force a cosmic level character?

Well, by that logic, Cyclops, Colossus, Emma Frost, Namor, and Magick should be cosmic level too since they were all vessels for the Phoenix force. Jean being dead has a current power level of 0. Hope was the intended vessel for the Phoenix and I think she's still alive though sans Phoenix. If they're going for the strongest X-men still living, Iceman is an omega level mutant as I believe is Storm. Colossus with the power of the Cyttorak is also pretty crazy on the power levels. Emma Frost was also strong enough to shut down Professor X (I believe that was during Messiah Complex). Shadowcat actually JUST became a cosmic being with Black Vortex (I believe she is still that way), Archangel is the only one who can actually kill Apocalypse (or at least that's how one writer framed it).

My point is that the power levels are both changing based on the whims of the writers/events and relative. I would also debate that neither Groot nor Hulk are the most powerful members of their teams, only possibly the strongest physically. If they're going for all out power levels and they have the full Marvel universe at their disposal, Hyperion is likely the strongest Avenger and Adam Warlock is most likely the strongest Guardian of the Galaxy. I don't think either of those are coming any time soon but I'm just trying to frame perspective on this from a comic nerd's standpoint. I think those two are the oddballs out because of the size of the models. Physically, Armor is probably the only X-man whose that big and that's really just her outer armor and not actual physical size.
EDIT: Correction, Scarlett Witch is the most powerful Avenger and the most powerful mutant. Not sure how I forgot about that..

Hyperion is basically a marvel Superman with PTSD/God complex yeah?

I should think that games of marvel supers would run along the lines of everyday hero activities. Rough and tumble but without everyone being massively engaged. No hitting the 'big red button' or burning themselves at both ends to eke out just that bit more power to save the world. Certainly serious but not 'end of arc' 'series finale' serious.

But in just speculating .

Think you might be confusing Hyperion (who is basically Superman) with Sentry (who is also basically Superman, but absolutely terrified of using his full power as he is mentally unstable and has a nasty habit of killing people when he loses control). Though admittedly I'm not as up to date with Marvel as I am with DC these days, so I could be wrong myself.

My only experience with him is from an Avengers cartoon on Netflix, he talked his way onto the Avengers team but then tried to take over and impose what was effectively martial law on the planet because he could and he knew best... I don't thunk he really had to post traumatic stress disorder, but he was just really bent.

Did Knight Models ever do a Gambit figure? I feel like they did at one point but all I can find are Sideshow Models Gambits.

With that 1990's Rogue I want the Ragin' Cajun to go with her!

Hyperion and Thor became really close friends. He had an "adjustment period" though where he learned how to be a hero. Thor and Hyperion went hunting after the Beyonders in a somewhat recent event.. it was pretty epic.
And yes.. he's very Supermanish..

That..sounds pretty awesome. All of this comic talk has me considering that marvel subscription thing... So many neat stories I seem to have missed out on. Of course that would get expensive combined with these fancy models...

Wish DC had a similar service.

It doesn't? I just found out Marvel did when I looked them up assuming I'd be driven away by high digital prices (didn't even check, I'm sure the subscription would be the way to go if I did it).

MLaw wrote:If they're going for all out power levels and they have the full Marvel universe at their disposal, Hyperion is likely the strongest Avenger

Argument about the strongest character in the Marvel Universe; Superman wins.

Paradigm wrote:Sentry (who is also basically Superman, but absolutely terrified of using his full power as he is mentally unstable and has a nasty habit of killing people when he loses control). Though admittedly I'm not as up to date with Marvel as I am with DC these days, so I could be wrong myself.

Well, he's had the same power level as Jean Grey, for a few years. (Edit: seems like it was a comic book death. But nobody cared enough to notice.)

What about the Blue Marvel? The most powerful hero... that nobody cared enough to notice.

MLaw wrote:Hyperion and Thor became really close friends. He had an "adjustment period" though where he learned how to be a hero.

Was that the 'bad' Hyperion? I lose track of how many there are, flitting between dimensions.

Getting somewhat back on topic... when did Rogue last have that look in the comics? The 90's?

She looks like the cartoon I remember when I was a kid xx years ago..

We should probably stick to actual News and actual Rumors in this thread.

If someone wants to post a 'wishlist' or 'speculation' thread, head on down to the "Misc. Miniature Games" and make one - I know I'll subscribe to it!

Thanks!

Just updated the Misc Minis Batman thread to the 'Knight Models games' thread, that's probably the place to take the non-news discussion.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/150/660463.page#8416534


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Got another piece of rules info from Hendybadger, Power is allocated point by point as you go, rather than like in BMG where you allocate everything at the start of the Turn. So whereas in BMG you might put points into Attack then end up with no targets, in MUMG, you spend points as and when you need it.

Good point MLaw and thanks for the education. But rather than thinking about the characters as they exist in the current (and I guess sometimes parallel) continuity, I think Knight models are probably going to pick X-Men characters as they were in the late 80s / early 90s, with an initial Averagers roster entirely inspired by the MCU.. which is how those characters tend to be 'remembered' in popular culture by people who haven't had much exposure to Marvel (in the same way that many Marvel video games, cartoons and I guess the movies keep retelling more or less the same arcs from that time period rather than focusing on new stuff). That said, I'm sure that Marvel offers the same - if not better - opportunities as Batman when it comes having different versions of the same character so I think we will all be pretty happy with the choices available to us in 18 months or so..

First look at a character card, with detailed explanations of how it all works:


http://pressganger.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/marvel-universe-miniature-game.html

Lots there, so I won't try and summarise,



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Looking at it a bit more, I like the look of it. The visual-based format and keyword interactions and such should get around the worst of KM's translation issues (though the wording on Bodyguard is clunky; it's obvious what they mean, but it's not well-written), and it looks pretty neat too. Lots to take in, but I guess the symbols mean that once you've learned them, you can tell at a glance easily enough.

Thanks for sharing, doesn't look...terribly difficult. I'll have to give the link a look.

I like that the card is vaguely reminiscent of the not-so-old transformers toys with all of the stats marked on the back like courage and firepower

Ah, Tech Specs!
I'm still really understand unsure about this. Game balance in full super power games is always an issue.

Consarnit.

I was perfectly happy to give the Marvel game a miss. But then they had to go and release 90's X-Men Rogue.

 inmygravenimage wrote:
Ah, Tech Specs!
I'm still really understand unsure about this. Game balance in full super power games is always an issue.

If they're smart, the objectives will be more based on strategy than power levels. They "could" tailor the mechanics so that it's hard to defeat moderate level heroes and higher and more about playing the objectives or scenarios. For example.. in the Infinity Gauntlet story.. Thanos wasn't killed, he was beaten strategically (though.. the writing had something to do). Just a thought.

I could imagine similar mechanics to Batman's "Arrest" system for that sort of situation.

Yeah, it's been said that the missions are objective-based, which should do a lot to mitigate powerful enemies just like it does in BMG (I regularly play with all-hero lists, and it's great fun but always an uphill struggle to keep up on VPs from turn to turn against lists with bodies to just sit and score).

On the subject of power levels and such, it occurred to me the other day that we're getting a box and a blister next month for each faction, not each alignment.... Since they already have the minis, I'm wondering if the blisters might in fact be villain counterparts to the hero boxes. Thanos to match the Guardians, Magneto to face the X-men, Loki to fight the Avengers... Could be a good way to get some traditional hero vs villain setups going out of the door, rather than just a month or two of the only options being hero fights.

 Paradigm wrote:
Yeah, it's been said that the missions are objective-based, which should do a lot to mitigate powerful enemies just like it does in BMG (I regularly play with all-hero lists, and it's great fun but always an uphill struggle to keep up on VPs from turn to turn against lists with bodies to just sit and score).

On the subject of power levels and such, it occurred to me the other day that we're getting a box and a blister next month for each faction, not each alignment.... Since they already have the minis, I'm wondering if the blisters might in fact be villain counterparts to the hero boxes. Thanos to match the Guardians, Magneto to face the X-men, Loki to fight the Avengers... Could be a good way to get some traditional hero vs villain setups going out of the door, rather than just a month or two of the only options being hero fights.

That was my assumption as well either a large fig character like Hulk for Avengers or a villain. I tend to think more it will be the villain since Collasus is announced already to be in the X Men pack.

Guardians full set pic:

Some info on the page about their abilities, though they're pretty much what you'd expect; Rocket shoots, Gamora stealths, Starlord zips around running interference and Drax hits things.

Starlord has some really long legs.

Yeah, he looks like he'd be way too tall and Gamora is tiny unless that's just perspective. I definitely think I'll be passing on this set, luckily the X-men look great, and assuming the Avengers get the existing minis plus that Black Widow we've seen, that should be a fantastic set too.

I like the characters but no so much that set. Avengers or bust at this point. Do we know who yet? Not familiar with their existing range. Seems like you *need* cap/Tony/Thor so that with widow is my guess?

Hulk too big obvs, and surely not widow *and* hawkeye in the starter?

I'd say something about wasp and gi/ant man since, y'know, founding members and all that...but they seem to kinda get the short end a lot.

Widow we know for the Avengers, Stark and Thor have appeared in promo material as the original minis so they're safe bets; they have a Cap, so the smart money's on him for the starter set, either the old mini or a new one (personally, I'd love to see a new one, the old one is all right but a bit 'classic' for my tastes and the pose is a bit awkward).

I'd love to see Ant Man and The Wasp, no idea how they'd do them though. 6mm minis?