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Come on Deadman... COME ON DEADMAN! DO IT KNIGHT!

Hoping for a new Swamp Thing as well.

I do find it quite funny that John, Zatanna and Jason are all in pretty much the same pose... Are we going for a JLD version of the Abbey Road cover?

Deadman would indeed be awesome. Having a 'full' JLD roster right off the bat would be very neat.

So that's me going to be having a Justice League Dark force then...

ACL has been pretty frustrating. ESPECIALLY because they're now seen as the "be all, end all" rules brokers.

For instance, Mad Hatter was changed to a FA in the last FAQ. A few users pointed out that this broke him, because you could toss him alongside other strong leaders, like Grodd, Ivy, or what have you, and basically have two very strong plans. KM listened and changed him back to a Leader for Organized Crime in the newest FAQ - specifically, they removed the line that changed him to a Free Agent, reverting him back to whatever his card said. A user then posted that he believed that still made Hatter a Free Agent, because he, AS A TO, applies ALL FAQS. And if a later FAQ doesn't specifically rule out a previous ruling, then all applied. No matter what anyone else said, he refused to accept it until one of the playtesters (is that what the 'admin' on ACL are?) said otherwise.

Another thing that bugged me is the "sometimes, but not always" rulings they make. For instance, in crew building it says models with the same name and same Alias can not be hired in multiples. Normally, this means 'no multiple Batmen' or 'no multiple Joker'. But in the Joker crew, there are a few henchmen named "Unknown" with Alias "Clown". So, technically, they're the same model currently and cannot be taken in the same crew. The game also recently got a new High Security Henchman, and officially there has been no word on whether or not he replaces the older HSH. I asked about the clowns recently in preparation for the CA Championships, and someone told me I'm applying the rules too hard. When I inquired then if this would apply to the HSH, I didn't receive a straight answer. I wasn't specifically trying to point out my frustration with the vagueness of these rulings, but the haphazard way they apply rules was starting to bug me. Just like, if these clowns can be taken together, despite the rules, then why can't I take the old and newer HSH? Not that you'd probably WANT to, but the point stands.

I love the game. I love the models. I love the setting and atmosphere and rules set. This game basically took over Infinity's spot in my group for the time being, but I still get frustrated with the way rules are handled on that FB group, but there's no other way to get official rulings or contact KM directly.

Yeah, it is awkward and I'm kinda thankful that I'm not really doing Batman and DC ax a tournament game. It's usually a, "Ok, we've got a free Saturday, lets Batman it up" with my mate.

Wait, does Etrigan really wear those awkward little shorts?!

Wow, that looks terrible... but appears to be canon.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Wait, does Etrigan really wear those awkward little shorts?!

Wow, that looks terrible... but appears to be canon.

they usually don't look so bad when the top is the same colour, the OSL here make it look like he's just got shorts on

In more recent stuff, such as the Justice League Dark animated movie (which, incidentally, is awesome) his costume is more along the lines of armour and a short robe/tabard. I think with a bit of filing you could get away with that look here.

Do not succumb to the foul temptations of his daemonic booty shorts!

http://www.bagofholding.co.uk/product-category/tabletop/knight-models/batman/

Appears to be the next wave of Batman/DC releases up at a UK store.

Batgirl (rebirth) resin multiverse
Deathstroke resin multiverse
Enchantress resin multiverse
Jason Blood resin multiverse
Constantine resin multiverse
Mr Freeze Starter resin
Red Hood resin multiverse
Riddler Starter with Quelle resin
Two Face Starter resin
Zatanna resin multiverse

Presumably those Freeze and Riddler sets are the recent ones converted to resin... I wonder if they redid the moulds from the masters, or whether we're looking at a potential Finecast situation here of resin being used in moulds meant for metal.

I dunno, I'm surprised to see Quelle in there.

The fact the listing says 'includes Quelle' in brackets and it's got the same RRP as the 5-model Sirens set, I'd assume she's just repacked with the other starter for a 5-model set.


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On the other hand, that release list looks confirmed, Element have the listings now as well:
http://elementgames.co.uk/wargames-and-miniatures/cult-steampunk-other-miniatures-games/batman-miniatures-game

I'm not sure how I feel about these at all. Still I have the goons in metal so i guess I can do a direct comparison.

Images up at ACL Facebook page. (Can't post myself)

Also, missed Knightfall Batman.

Also, new rulebook.

And new book with Magic, including cards for magic spells.

You can't get me to touch that book for quite a while NO way they are done editing that.

And rules are up for download for magic. Spells are a deck. Oh and new objectives.

edit: new Magic book now up at KM site as a PDF. Enjoy the read.

https://www.knightmodels.com/downloads/

All the remade resin models are the exact same sculpts (Riddler, Red Hood, Freeze, and Deathstroke.)

New stuff that we haven't seen yet:



As for the redone minis in resin, it might just be the new paintjob but this possibly confirms my fears. Compare this original metal Deathstroke:

With the new resin one:


It might be the paintjob, it might be the pics, but that definitely looks a bit less sharp to me.

Just shrink the image to the same size as the metal one, it's probably an artificact

Also missed this:


Spend 100EUR, get Red Son Superman.

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Ok, that might just be the lower-contrast paintjob then.

Has anyone had the new resin in person yet? Any pics?

Deathstroke lost his guns in the new edition?

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Deathstroke lost his guns in the new edition?

You have to pick up the opponent's models now to tell what version they're running according to weight.


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Wowsa. They finally learned their lesson:

Swamp Thing
Constantine
Zatanna
Etrigan
Doctor Fate

60 Levels on the dot, not that you can get Swamp Thing anymore.... and the resin one will probably be level 13

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Deathstroke lost his guns in the new edition?

And gained Hidden Sniper. Without any guns.

No idea if you can select which card to use, as the model is the same.

Sigh, thanks KM!

 drazz wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Deathstroke lost his guns in the new edition?

And gained Hidden Sniper. Without any guns.

No idea if you can select which card to use, as the model is the same.

Sigh, thanks KM!

Well with how the rule is written, do you need a gun in your equipment to use Hidden Sniper?

Nope, it's just simply a ranged attack with the profile given there.

Alright.

Found the rule in the World's Finest PDF, so not sure if it will be the same or not. It wasnt in the Free 2e PDF.

I'm also not seeing any difference in the Deathstroke sculpts. And having handled some of the new resin stuff I'm impressed. They're a leap forward from the metal.

Do we have an ETA on release?