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 BrookM wrote:
Quite so! The box art in particular is trying really hard to capture the (imho) epicness of a boxed game by GW, but rather fails to do so.

Is this part of the Warzone setting or is this a brand new IP?

This is a spin off from the Warzone IP: Whorezone. I can't wait for Prodos' take on the RPG; Whorezone - Pervert Chronicles.

 Azazelx wrote:
All I can say is I hope people waiting for Warzone and/or AVP stuff get their models before this piece of gak takes down the company entirely.

Very much this. By all accounts Prodos's financials are tight, what with having to go retail to fund the balance of their AvP KS shipping. So with money in short supply, they go and release this? If it bombs then imho the future of Warzone and AvP looks bleak.

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UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Archon studios is probably yet another shell company within prodos's seemingly ever shifting corporate structure. As for quality, they probably can't afford the same sculptors as AvP because they have no money.

Spot on! I suspect this is a naive attempt to move away from the Prodos name (Archon is the name of the Polish set up) after the AVP debacle ...(Prodos is also defunct..as they have pulled out o the UK now I left and the rest of the UK operation was culled or quit)

Also for the record...even though I was a co-owner of Prodos previously I would like to state publicly I have absolutely nothing to do with any aspect of this 'Space Rusade' (Yes Rusade look at the logo) monstrosity...

 rabidaskal wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
All I can say is I hope people waiting for Warzone and/or AVP stuff get their models before this piece of gak takes down the company entirely.

Very much this. By all accounts Prodos's financials are tight, what with having to go retail to fund the balance of their AvP KS shipping. So with money in short supply, they go and release this? If it bombs then imho the future of Warzone and AvP looks bleak.

I wasn't aware of how dire things have became for that company in all honesty.It's baffleing why they would think this is the way to save their finances.

Those models are heresy.

Praise Nurgle wrote:

Spoiler:

I have to confess, I like the smug alternate head

 Mr. Burning wrote:
Are these renders or just art place holders.

They could be digitally coloured renders but colour me unimpressed.

Either way, consider me unimpressed. They all look like something someone with no skill making a fem marine army would look like. A fairly bog standard figure with green stuff sculpted spheres attached to their chests.

Prodos certainly know what they are doing though. They can't complete on their other projects so have decided to go for more nostalgia and tits to hide their shortcomings.

Bravo.

I think they are a Not Sisters of Battle army. The Dread Knight style giant robot thingy at first glance looked like a walker operated by a pilot who for some reason had to rush out so quickly she did not have time to put any clothes on, but when you look closely, she is in a prisoner crucifixion pose with no support for the feet. The machine itself has fleur-de-lys in its decoration. I think it is a Not Penitent Engine.

I rather like the idea of a walker frame fork lift operated by a girl wearing a bikini because it's too hot in the loading bay to wear a full set of clothes. However, it makes absolutely no sense as a weapon carrier.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
...pants on the head...

That's Wave 2.

5 pages, I don't think I've read a single positive comment.

So ill make one - think this looks hilarious and entertaining.

I would also put money on this selling well..

 Pacific wrote:
5 pages, I don't think I've read a single positive comment.

So ill make one - think this looks hilarious and entertaining.

I would also put money on this selling well..

I'll take that bet.

(I am here because someone on page 1 mentioned HF in relation to this drek - for shame! )

I hope they do a BoW video series when this releases. It would be fun to see the BoW-crew struggle to be able to maintain their "WOW, AWESOME, GREAT STUFF, etc." levels of enthusiasm about this game.

A bit off topic but; have BoW ever disliked anything?

 jorny wrote:
I hope they do a BoW video series when this releases. It would be fun to see the BoW-crew struggle to be able to maintain their "WOW, AWESOME, GREAT STUFF, etc." levels of enthusiasm about this game.

A bit off topic but; have BoW ever disliked anything?

I recently made an account on that site to vote in their game of the year awards and made the same observation.

I quickly realized their reviews are mostly pointless since everything is soo cool, fantastic and wonderful. Judging from their "tactics" and play-testing of KoW, they don't seem to bother reading the rules of the games they play either. They would really need a crusty old, right miserable bastard in their crew to point out flaws and act as a counterbalance.

It does depend on whether it's a promoted product or not (they could do with making this clearer).

Most Mantic videos tend to be promoted. - It wouldn't surprise me if most of their non backstage content is. They tended to be a bit more open in their opinions in their backstage videos.

From the sounds of it though, Prodos aren't exactly in a position to afford Beasts of War promotion.

But yeah, it's entertaining trying to read between the lines of their videos and articles, for example this Wulfen article.

Hah, the only difference between this and quite a number of KD:M models is the lower sculpt quality.

Neither is my cup of tea, but the outrage about tits on miniatures is rather funny.

Right, I'm off to write to Prodos about my AVP pledge. I'm sure it's ready for shipping.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Hah, the only difference between this and quite a number of KD:M models is the lower sculpt quality.

I wouldn't say so. KD:M sure is cheesecake and OTT but it's a consistent art direction. I wouldn't exactly call it tasteful but at least it's interesting.

This is not-spacemarines with armor plates removed and added boobs n' ass.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Hah, the only difference between this and quite a number of KD:M models is the lower sculpt quality.

Neither is my cup of tea, but the outrage about tits on miniatures is rather funny.

Right, I'm off to write to Prodos about my AVP pledge. I'm sure it's ready for shipping.

I think you mean Kingdom Death pinups. Not so much in Kingdom Death: Monster.

I would say the KD pinups are more well thought out than, "Remove torso armor, add bikini" of this Space Crusade board game.

Maybe? I have to admit, to me, both are fundamentally tits on a 30mm miniature. Aiming for the same demographic, one just does it better.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Prodos here. The only thing shown that I like are the bikes (and the bikes alone) and the obese, chainaxe wielding hag that exists only in concept art for now. But my lack of interest comes from the lack of quality of the sculpts, not from what the sculpts depict.

 Zywus wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Hah, the only difference between this and quite a number of KD:M models is the lower sculpt quality.

I wouldn't say so. KD:M sure is cheesecake and OTT but it's a consistent art direction. I wouldn't exactly call it tasteful but at least it's interesting.

This is not-spacemarines with armor plates removed and added boobs n' ass.

and what's much, much worse barely adequately sculpted boobs n' ass

If the sculpts were good I'd shrug and say the style was not for me (although some cheesecake like KD pinups and Raging Heroes is) and wish them luck (if only to help the poor AvP backers get their missing stuff)

as it is it's just sad

I actually like the chaos/demon stuff.
It's super over the top, but what isnt?

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 Zywus wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Hah, the only difference between this and quite a number of KD:M models is the lower sculpt quality.

I wouldn't say so. KD:M sure is cheesecake and OTT but it's a consistent art direction. I wouldn't exactly call it tasteful but at least it's interesting.

This is not-spacemarines with armor plates removed and added boobs n' ass.

and what's much, much worse barely adequately sculpted boobs n' ass

If the sculpts were good I'd shrug and say the style was not for me (although some cheesecake like KD pinups and Raging Heroes is) and wish them luck (if only to help the poor AvP backers get their missing stuff)

as it is it's just sad

My feelings exactly. These have the sort of look you get when Lads put balloons up their jumpers,or hold them over their clothes and call them 'boobies' (guffawing all the time).

Not good in any way shape or form.


Also: Space (c) RUSADE - Who signed off on that awful logo/header?

So they really are just taking a page out of KD's book- hyper sexualize X, sell it to fund shipping. Instead of alternate sculpts of their existing characters, they've went with Space Marines.

I guess whatever works.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
So they really are just taking a page out of KD's book- hyper sexualize X, sell it to fund shipping. Instead of alternate sculpts of their existing characters, they've went with Space Marines.

I guess whatever works.

Its not even hyper sexual. just...bad....

I guess a major difference between KD and this is KD has gorgeous models that also happen to be sexualized and titillating, for better or worse.

In this case, the sexualization and titillation alone is the selling point (or at least supposed to be), and that selling point is not executed well.

It's sad that something like this can see the light of day and HiTech Miniatures couldn't get their gak together and put their game out.

Having never been able to play or own a copy of Space Crusade, I'd have been tempted if this had been a bit toned down.

Chances are that aside from sharing the name it will have nothing in common with the venerable old GW beast.

The Kingdom of death Pip-up models are sold as display pieces, not a core part of the game. They are a thing on the side, unlike this space crusade game. I think that's why this new game is invokeing so much cringe, because it reaks of being creatively bankrupt.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
It's sad that something like this can see the light of day and HiTech Miniatures couldn't get their gak together and put their game out.

Mission: Katharsis is a fine game indeed, falling halfway between Space Hulk and Betrayal at Calth. Hopefully it sees release eventually.

OT: I can't say I get the vileness for this game paired with the fondness for KD. Infinity has had scantily clad fighting women for years, with exposed midriffs and provocative poses. Heck, one of the earliest, and incidentally best selling, miniatures is a furry in an "insert coin here" invitiational pose. KD pinups are egregious to the extreme, they're a square milimeter of clothing away from tits out-pussy wet hardcore porn shots, and even regular minis have plenty of exposed skin, with some literally bristling with humongous erect penises. Let's not even talk of suggested rape by animals in the setting. Those get a pass and are celebrated. But a game combining sexy girls with 40K suddenly elicits bouts of horror. Certainly the fact that it's Prodos has no bearing on the reception of the theme, nosiree. The hypocrisy that drips from some of these reactions is cloying.

So.. when people ask me what wargaming is. I'll show them these little figurines, right?

That's wargaming right there! OH gosh... the armor.. it's everywhere except where it needs to be be.

No offense Brother Vinni... but these guys have got you beat!

I'm not sure if =Prodos thinks these will sell like hot cakes to all those "miserable, lardy, greasy wargamers out there." Or if they just got a friend of a friend who had this "great" idea!?

The fact I can show these to non-wargamers and get laugh might be on to something.

I never liked the KD stuff either, any of it, but to each their own.

Dont have a bias for or against Prodos myself. Their AvP miniatures looked quite nice from what I've seen.

As has been mentioned the KD pinups are a supplement to, not a main part of the core game/line. They also follow a more "realistic" form of anatomy(albeit still slightly exaggerated) than Archon's miniatures, who are a part of their main line apparently.

As for the monsters and other parts of the KD setting, they actually make sense as a part of the body-horror imagery they're trying to invoke along the lines of H.R. Giger and other artists.

In what universe would these Space Crusade minis work other than a pre-teen's bikini bash fantasy?

 RedSarge wrote:
So.. when people ask me what wargaming is. I'll show them these little figurines, right?

When people ask why you read books, do you start off with Fifty Shades of Gray as well?