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This is heresy.
I approve.

Here is my stamp of approval

Bossk_Hogg wrote:
Ygood luck getting even a flacid dong past the MPAA in PG-13 movies (or an R for that matter!). Nudity in general has been cut back, whereas in the 70's/80's there were more "non-sexual" nudity

In the US male nudity does not equal female nudity or receive the same rating. A fully naked male will always get a R rating, while a fully naked female will usually be seen as PG-13. Providing frontal nudity is just the top and not bottom, then it usually will always get a pass while full frontal is dependent on the 8 people rating the movie. That is mostly because of western culture beliefs and society... a nude male is viewed as pornographic while a nude female is viewed as beautiful and artful. That is the unfortunate truth but often overlooked reverse nature in terms of sexism in relation to just plain nudity, without sexual overtones or situations.

The above however only refers to US standards or lack of standards for that matter. Other countries as I have found out, have a much different scale and rating of things.

Wolverine was only rated 5/10 for profanity for, average for both Theatrical Cut and Extended Cut
4 uses of sh**, 3 uses of bi***, 4 uses of he**, 1 use of ba***, 1 use of a**, 2 use of a**hole, 1 use of da**. 1 religious exclamation, 1 use of bas****.
1-F word in the Theatrical Cut
3-F words in the Extended Cut

I think we've probably pursued the 'ratings' tangent as far as we need to in this particular thread...

 agnosto wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Don't you dare blame this dislike of the designs on "children".
By doing so, you are saying that to appeal to adults, it must have nudity. It is insulting to your own customers and the hobby scene in general to pretend that only kids don't want helium breasts or pointlessly tiny armour on their models.

Plenty adults can work out what they want without being lead by their trousers.

I like tits. I like pizza.
I don't want to combine the two of these things. The pizza company do not have to use naked women to convince me it's worth buying.
I like tits. I like miniatures.
See what I'm getting at here?

...made myself hungry.

Never seen a Carls Jr add, have you?

Nope. Yet strangely enough, I still buy pizza.

Buttery Commissar - so you're saying that anything combining boobs, pizza and miniatures would not be worthwhile?

I will challenge you, sir, at a fundamental level there

 notprop wrote:
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Anyone could buy The Sun newspaper (the one with Page 3). Not really a big deal seeing a pair of boobs, nothing kids won't see on any beach. I don't think nudity/sex is such a big issue as it is in the US.

Although.. not any more!

 Lockark wrote:

 LordOfSmurfs wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:


It' still a WIP but this is more less PG13+ version (need a bit more love for a Hero model)

Spoiler:

The waist is smaller with armour than without, it's smaller than the things bloody leg.

I kept comeing back and looking at the image thinking "Something dosen't look right here, but I'm not sure what...." Yah it's the torso is two thin with thows armoured plates.

Is it the impractical, free flowing hair that obvs won't get in the way at the crucial moment?

 Pacific wrote:
Buttery Commissar - so you're saying that anything combining boobs, pizza and miniatures would not be worthwhile?

I will challenge you, sir, at a fundamental level there

Because I'm genuinely quite frustrated at how bad these figures are, and the condescending attitude that they'll only be toned down because mummy and daddy complained, I'll pass on the continuation of frivolity.

Speaking as someone who owns a Slaanesh army, even I fething despair.

Ffyllotek wrote:

 Lockark wrote:

 LordOfSmurfs wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:


It' still a WIP but this is more less PG13+ version (need a bit more love for a Hero model)

Spoiler:

The waist is smaller with armour than without, it's smaller than the things bloody leg.

I kept comeing back and looking at the image thinking "Something dosen't look right here, but I'm not sure what...." Yah it's the torso is two thin with thows armoured plates.

Is it the impractical, free flowing hair that obvs won't get in the way at the crucial moment?

Well a fair point, the thing that keeps bugging me is the strange Rob Liefeld poportions going on with that waist.

It looks like she has to have a waist like this to fit in the power armour.

I think there is a toned down option not because mummy and daddy complain

(otherwise the original would be dropped despite there being a market as what Prodos says about the presales show)

but because making alternates means that more stuff can be sold (and potentially in different stores)

I'm pretty sure that if there were any women in the Warhammer 40K universe, this is what they would look like. Sure, they are ridiculous caricatures, but so is everything in 40k and Warhammer. Didn't the Age of Sigmar box come with a bunch of Khorne cultists with armor all over their shins and forearms and nowhere else (aside from some with helmets, I think)? Presumably so that everyone could see their 12-pack abs mighty pecs.

Albino Squirrel wrote:
I'm pretty sure that if there were any women in the Warhammer 40K universe, this is what they would look like. Sure, they are ridiculous caricatures, but so is everything in 40k and Warhammer. Didn't the Age of Sigmar box come with a bunch of Khorne cultists with armor all over their shins and forearms and nowhere else (aside from some with helmets, I think)? Presumably so that everyone could see their 12-pack abs mighty pecs.

This.

Toy soldiers fantasy, anyone.

"Your fantasy soldiers are not realistic and are sexist! Mine are only unrealistic and racist!"

Albino Squirrel wrote:
I'm pretty sure that if there were any women in the Warhammer 40K universe, this is what they would look like. Sure, they are ridiculous caricatures, but so is everything in 40k and Warhammer. Didn't the Age of Sigmar box come with a bunch of Khorne cultists with armor all over their shins and forearms and nowhere else (aside from some with helmets, I think)? Presumably so that everyone could see their 12-pack abs mighty pecs.

I'm pretty sure you're wrong.

There's various official artwork of women who aren't bite-the-bedpost crazy in 40K.

Why not both?

It's a bit disingenuous to assume or expect that it's all or nothing.

But this isn't a 40k knock off, otherwise there would be skulls instead of boobs

 Dentry wrote:
Why not both?

It's a bit disingenuous to assume or expect that it's all or nothing.

Because the original post said "if there were any", so I was giving scope.

There were also those hideous female Inquisitor, and the commissar in a ball gown.

 Theophony wrote:
But this isn't a 40k knock off, otherwise there would be skulls instead of boobs

Skull-boobs? Wow. Mind blown.


p.s. Don't give GW sculptors any idea to add to the already brimming repertoire of skull-acne.

 agnosto wrote:

Skull-boobs? Wow. Mind blown.

Already a thing.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Because the original post said "if there were any", so I was giving scope.

Fair enough.

The demons look fine as-is and the armored up versions of the Crusaders and the not-Cron look acceptable. They don't scream of the worst expectations of the wargaming community - true or not.

Wasn't interested in the heavy Crusaders anyway - not because I was disgusted or anything, just didn't want termies - and the new model doesn't really change that.

This is like, really bad. I was planning to spend some more money on Warzone, but now I have to reconsider the purchase. Don't think I want to support a company that profits on sexism and alienates the female audience from the hobby. Not to mention how unoriginal and cheap the whole concept is.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 NH Gunsmith wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 =Angel= wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
Good morning all,

Here are Demon models, that are included in the Space Crusade Board Game (PG13 and 18+ will have the same models).

In next few days we will reveal PG13+ miniatures as well. Thanks


Thanks

Can you please clarify this?

Are you armouring up the Crusaders 2m exhaust ports with the stomach plates etc or are you filing the nips off the succubi?
If not the former, would you consider adding the missing armour pieces?

Yes, as mentioned in my previous posts, we had a tons of emails asking to make this game accessible for kids as well, So version PG13+ is the one that will have more armour plates (Heroes) and eventually same will go for every add-on model.



One more questions:

What Dakkadakkars think about his miniature , a future add-on for the SC game (or may be included in the main box as a free gift)

And Crusaders Hero reinforcement concepts

This actually makes me happy. I would be willing to give the game a try now. A little more armor in key areas could make this something I wouldn't be embarrassed to own.

It' still a WIP but this is more less PG13+ version (need a bit more love for a Hero model)

This sculpt makes a lot more sense space armor wise

It reminds me of the Transformers the Movie exosuit the kid wears.

Design-wise I like it - but she needs a thicker waist and thighs unless (as someone else suggested) she's a robot from the chest down.

The waist should be almost as wide as the ribcage, and the inside of the thighs should be closer together. Making the inside knee roundel smaller would help - the idea should be to allow her to stand in as close to a natural pose as possible, so putting the articulation on the outside of the knees to avoid getting in the way would make sense. The last thing you'd want is for the knee joints to catch while running and knock her flat.

Wow, the fully armored version is 100% better! I agree that the ab area could be a little beefier, but damn, her arms in the not-terminator armor actually look somewhat anatomical versus actual GW terminators! She doesn't need her shoulders to be dislocated to fit like they do.

I can't believe I am looking at a decently-sculpted power armor boob-plate from the same company who would sell the other versions.

I think they'd be fun to paint. I'll take some of these and fully-armored regular troops, versus the Succubi versions as they are, because those at least can make sense as they are.

I'm a little scared about how close the lower halves of the medium daemons look like....ahem. I'm pretending to believe it's a distended belly being pulled open.

http://shop.prodosgames.com/1173-thickbox_default/space-crusade-board-game.jpg

This sure looks like someone based it off their ex-wife for sure.

 AlexHolker wrote:
The waist should be almost as wide as the ribcage, and the inside of the thighs should be closer together. Making the inside knee roundel smaller would help - the idea should be to allow her to stand in as close to a natural pose as possible, so putting the articulation on the outside of the knees to avoid getting in the way would make sense. The last thing you'd want is for the knee joints to catch while running and knock her flat.

It's as if the sculptor is a writer in the fashion section of the Daily Mail...

 agnosto wrote:
Ironic that Jehan lives in the one country where these minis could be on every game table and no one would bat an eye. Heck in 2004, you could still buy used school girl panties from vending machines outside of 7-11 in Kita-Kyushu...

Well i agree i live in a country that misogynists run rampant, and under aged girls are objectified. And during my travels through the sub culture i found a shop in Tokyo that sold used school panties back in 2000.
But openly this would also be frowned upon, if it is cutesy and super deformed style than it would be ok. They have still strong obscenity laws here in Japan.

Back to the topic, The terminator variant waist is too thin unless this is where you want to go for?

Ok, if everyone could stop with the lolposts that'd be great. That includes just throwing out images and stuff instead of really posting. Thanks.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
Buttery Commissar - so you're saying that anything combining boobs, pizza and miniatures would not be worthwhile?

I will challenge you, sir, at a fundamental level there

Because I'm genuinely quite frustrated at how bad these figures are, and the condescending attitude that they'll only be toned down because mummy and daddy complained, I'll pass on the continuation of frivolity.

Speaking as someone who owns a Slaanesh army, even I fething despair.

Well.. two hours of searching for a combination of the aforementioned three and couldn't really find anything - perhaps you are right after all!

Seriously though, think the daemons are the best part of this.

I don't play Slaaneshi (well.. haven't owned any miniatures from that range for probably 20 years or so, so god-knows what is about these days) but think these aren't too bad:

I think the slaanesh marines would look good with the slick black bodysuit that people mentioned earlier and be fine.