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Awesome! Really like the demons in this game.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
Good morning all,

Here are Demon models, that are included in the Space Crusade Board Game (PG13 and 18+ will have the same models).

In next few days we will reveal PG13+ miniatures as well. Thanks


Thanks

Can you please clarify this?

Are you armouring up the Crusaders 2m exhaust ports with the stomach plates etc or are you filing the nips off the succubi?
If not the former, would you consider adding the missing armour pieces?

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I think that's what is sparking so much annoyance with everyone. Prodos came really close to making badass female power armored troops. The basic ideas behind the sculpts are very nice. But then they decided to go full cheesecake and ruin what could have been something very nice.

Yea this is totally the case for me, I love boobs as much as most men, but there is a time and a place !
I am pretty sure that if these troops were less sexualized they would sell many many more, but what do i know ?

Also, this thread has been quite an amusing read with people taking the high ground, people getting offended, people trying to further offend the offended and the odd baseless remark here and there about how boobs on minis are the realm of young single men !

Plenty of coverage for Prodos too !!

 =Angel= wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
Good morning all,

Here are Demon models, that are included in the Space Crusade Board Game (PG13 and 18+ will have the same models).

In next few days we will reveal PG13+ miniatures as well. Thanks


Thanks

Can you please clarify this?

Are you armouring up the Crusaders 2m exhaust ports with the stomach plates etc or are you filing the nips off the succubi?
If not the former, would you consider adding the missing armour pieces?

Yes, as mentioned in my previous posts, we had a tons of emails asking to make this game accessible for kids as well, So version PG13+ is the one that will have more armour plates (Heroes) and eventually same will go for every add-on model.



One more questions:

What Dakkadakkars think about his miniature , a future add-on for the SC game (or may be included in the main box as a free gift)

And Crusaders Hero reinforcement concepts

 Brother SRM wrote:
Prodos is usually on point with their models but this, this I can't handle.

I think this should be the box art, fits it so perfectly.

The robot woman looks good from the front. If she has flapping robo-buns, that would be a bit of a shame, but Sedition Wars style back armor would suit her. The Victoria's Secret fantasy warrior is fairly typical and boring. The boots look really uncomfortable.

 agnosto wrote:
Ironic that Jehan lives in the one country where these minis could be on every game table and no one would bat an eye. Heck in 2004, you could still buy used school girl panties from vending machines outside of 7-11 in Kita-Kyushu...

@Jorny, required breast enlargement would explain why they're all roughly the same size.

Don't forget their massive rape sim game industry and anime with racist caricatures that makes Mammy from the old Tom and Jerry cartoons look progressive.

Those new nurgle renders do look dope though.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 =Angel= wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
Good morning all,

Here are Demon models, that are included in the Space Crusade Board Game (PG13 and 18+ will have the same models).

In next few days we will reveal PG13+ miniatures as well. Thanks


Thanks

Can you please clarify this?

Are you armouring up the Crusaders 2m exhaust ports with the stomach plates etc or are you filing the nips off the succubi?
If not the former, would you consider adding the missing armour pieces?

Yes, as mentioned in my previous posts, we had a tons of emails asking to make this game accessible for kids as well, So version PG13+ is the one that will have more armour plates (Heroes) and eventually same will go for every add-on model.



One more questions:

What Dakkadakkars think about his miniature , a future add-on for the SC game (or may be included in the main box as a free gift)

And Crusaders Hero reinforcement concepts

This actually makes me happy. I would be willing to give the game a try now. A little more armor in key areas could make this something I wouldn't be embarrassed to own.

 NH Gunsmith wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 =Angel= wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
Good morning all,

Here are Demon models, that are included in the Space Crusade Board Game (PG13 and 18+ will have the same models).

In next few days we will reveal PG13+ miniatures as well. Thanks


Thanks

Can you please clarify this?

Are you armouring up the Crusaders 2m exhaust ports with the stomach plates etc or are you filing the nips off the succubi?
If not the former, would you consider adding the missing armour pieces?

Yes, as mentioned in my previous posts, we had a tons of emails asking to make this game accessible for kids as well, So version PG13+ is the one that will have more armour plates (Heroes) and eventually same will go for every add-on model.



One more questions:

What Dakkadakkars think about his miniature , a future add-on for the SC game (or may be included in the main box as a free gift)

And Crusaders Hero reinforcement concepts

This actually makes me happy. I would be willing to give the game a try now. A little more armor in key areas could make this something I wouldn't be embarrassed to own.

It' still a WIP but this is more less PG13+ version (need a bit more love for a Hero model)

See, the Ladycron and the Femminator on this page don't look laughable; nice sculpts!

But that concept art and the original minis, oh my...

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 =Angel= wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
Good morning all,

Here are Demon models, that are included in the Space Crusade Board Game (PG13 and 18+ will have the same models).

In next few days we will reveal PG13+ miniatures as well. Thanks


Thanks

Can you please clarify this?

Are you armouring up the Crusaders 2m exhaust ports with the stomach plates etc or are you filing the nips off the succubi?
If not the former, would you consider adding the missing armour pieces?

Yes, as mentioned in my previous posts, we had a tons of emails asking to make this game accessible for kids as well, So version PG13+ is the one that will have more armour plates (Heroes) and eventually same will go for every add-on model.



One more questions:

What Dakkadakkars think about his miniature , a future add-on for the SC game (or may be included in the main box as a free gift)

And Crusaders Hero reinforcement concepts

They're still ridiculous. Massive armored boots, and a handkerchief skirt?
The people who approve these ideas should have to try walking around in similar clothing, outdoors.

"Not quite as mind bogglingly crass as the previous artwork." If you're looking for quantifiable feedback.

The proportions on that render are horrendous. The lady has no damned torso.

I'm agreed that everything in the original box art is a pile of gak - sexist, stupid, ugly as hell models. The stuff on this page - which they call 'PG13' - is much, much better female miniature design.

Hell, I'm even insulted at the implication that the only reason people want the covered models is because they're children - because OBVIOUSLY any male over the age of 13 just wants cheesecake, right? It's not the 'PG13' version, it's the 'not a desperately horny teenage boy' version.

Anyway. What im more interested to know is - is this REALLY Space Crusade? Like, three groups of power armoured protagonists with varying weapon load outs chasing blips, finding out what's in each room, facing a vast array of different aliens? From the box contents, I can't see how you couLd play the Space Crusade we remember from the 90s. It looks like a totally new game with 'Space Crusade' stamped on it for reasons of IP?

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
In next few days we will reveal PG13+ miniatures as well. Thanks

I'm actually confused about this statement... mainly because these are PG-13 miniatures, at least in terms of movie rating with the exception of Mabs and Mamoona. Topless women is PG-13 rating, technically so is full frontal nudity, they just can't show sex or have graphic depictions of love-making. You can't use the F-word. Beyond that these are already PG-13.

The original style was really different and stood out. It is fantasy after all, and I find the weapons that should require a crane to lift more out of proportion than the exaggerated female bits.

Frankly I like campy style, over the top ludicrous things. This minis made me chuckle and it was nostalgic back to the old days when things were fun just because they were outrageous.

Thrud minis were insanely out of proportion. Massively over muscled in a small loin cloth. I don't remember if people reacted in the same way.

Many of the old "B" movies were simply filled with insane gore and blood as well as pointless cleavage. Remember Elvira? Check out movies like- " Slave Girls from Beyond Infinity", or " Nymphoid Barbarian in Dinosaur Hell". Utterly horrible but that is the appeal.

Chibli minis are also a bit odd, what with the huge heads and all. I think they are pretty cool though.

Politically correct minis lose some of the fun. That seems to be the point of political correctness, taking all the joy out of life.

Yes, it is a bit inexplicable why the driver of an armored robot would choose to hang naked in the front with no protection. I will grant you that this makes no sense whatsoever.

But if you are looking for a laugh out loud army that is truly different, I can not think of a better example. I much prefer the painted skin look. Very nice job.

In short, lighten up and laugh a little. I did.

 ArbitorIan wrote:
I'm agreed that everything in the original box art is a pile of gak - sexist, stupid, ugly as hell models. The stuff on this page - which they call 'PG13' - is much, much better female miniature design.

Hell, I'm even insulted at the implication that the only reason people want the covered models is because they're children - because OBVIOUSLY any male over the age of 13 just wants cheesecake, right? It's not the 'PG13' version, it's the 'not a desperately horny teenage boy' version.

Anyway. What im more interested to know is - is this REALLY Space Crusade? Like, three groups of power armoured protagonists with varying weapon load outs chasing blips, finding out what's in each room, facing a vast array of different aliens? From the box contents, I can't see how you couLd play the Space Crusade we remember from the 90s. It looks like a totally new game with 'Space Crusade' stamped on it for reasons of IP?

Yes, so, a for the game play:

1. It's Heroquest style game with an option to either expand your army OR get your hero loaded up with experience and equipment, so it's really combining OLD style of Space Crusade gameplay (army vs army) with a bit of hero-quest.
2. The game is for 2-6 players.
3. Main goal is to release Mamoona demon and kill it (as cooperative game) OR to find a Relics that will allow to one of the player to control Mamoona and her demons and use it in fight against other players. The cool bit about it that the true Relic card (drawn at the beginning of the game or you can get one by fulfilling missions) is never shown to other players so, you may be going co-op game to find out at the end that one of the players actually want to be the bad one (sh/he does't have to use the Relic)... never trust your friend I would say.
4. We have currently in the box : 3 factions, NPC/controllable (demons), Crusaders and Unfaithful (Heroes)
5. The plan is to add (could be to main box or as a set of add-ons) Orc Hero (and it's reinforcement models as an add-on), IA Hero (name needed + add-ons separate).



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 Dark Severance wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
In next few days we will reveal PG13+ miniatures as well. Thanks

I'm actually confused about this statement... mainly because these are PG-13 miniatures, at least in terms of movie rating with the exception of Mabs and Mamoona. Topless women is PG-13 rating, technically so is full frontal nudity, they just can't show sex or have graphic depictions of love-making. You can't use the F-word. Beyond that these are already PG-13.

One of the problem is advertising the product. The law is really badly done in EU, in general your kid may watch Star Wars with all it's valence (killing) but when it comes to nudity that is BIG NO!!! That's PG16 at least ...

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:


Yes, so, a for the game play:

1. It's Heroquest style game with an option to either expand your army OR get your hero loaded up with experience and equipment, so it's really combining OLD style of Space Crusade gameplay (army vs army) with a bit of hero-quest.
2. The game is for 2-6 players.
3. Main goal is to release Mamoona demon and kill it (as cooperative game) OR to find a Relics that will allow to one of the player to control Mamoona and her demons and use it in fight against other players. The cool bit about it that the true Relic card (drawn at the beginning of the game or you can get one by fulfilling missions) is never shown to other players so, you may be going co-op game to find out at the end that one of the players actually want to be the bad one (sh/he does't have to use the Relic)... never trust your friend I would say.
4. We have currently in the box : 3 factions, NPC/controllable (demons), Crusaders and Unfaithful (Heroes)
5. The plan is to add (could be to main box or as a set of add-ons) Orc Hero (and it's reinforcement models as an add-on), IA Hero (name needed + add-ons separate).

Great - thanks for the fast response,

So, that clears it up for me, then. This is 'in the style' of old SC and HQ games, but it is not a re-release or remake of the 90s game 'Space Crusade' - it's a new game.

You're just using the name 'Space Crusade' to drum up sales. If it's out of copyright, then absolutely fine, but it's a bit misleading to gamers.

I'd love a re-release of Space Crusade, but this isn't it...

It' still a WIP but this is more less PG13+ version (need a bit more love for a Hero model)

Pffff, bring back the boobs I say.

But in all seriousness the sculpts arent actually too bad, they're just totally OTT boobage for no good reason.
Whoever photoshopped that black carapace idea was onto something.

 ArbitorIan wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:


Yes, so, a for the game play:

1. It's Heroquest style game with an option to either expand your army OR get your hero loaded up with experience and equipment, so it's really combining OLD style of Space Crusade gameplay (army vs army) with a bit of hero-quest.
2. The game is for 2-6 players.
3. Main goal is to release Mamoona demon and kill it (as cooperative game) OR to find a Relics that will allow to one of the player to control Mamoona and her demons and use it in fight against other players. The cool bit about it that the true Relic card (drawn at the beginning of the game or you can get one by fulfilling missions) is never shown to other players so, you may be going co-op game to find out at the end that one of the players actually want to be the bad one (sh/he does't have to use the Relic)... never trust your friend I would say.
4. We have currently in the box : 3 factions, NPC/controllable (demons), Crusaders and Unfaithful (Heroes)
5. The plan is to add (could be to main box or as a set of add-ons) Orc Hero (and it's reinforcement models as an add-on), IA Hero (name needed + add-ons separate).

Great - thanks for the fast response,

So, that clears it up for me, then. This is 'in the style' of old SC and HQ games, but it is not a re-release or remake of the 90s game 'Space Crusade' - it's a new game.

You're just using the name 'Space Crusade' to drum up sales. If it's out of copyright, then absolutely fine, but it's a bit misleading to gamers.

I'd love a re-release of Space Crusade, but this isn't it...

It's worth to mention that the game tiles are double sided, on one side is Lost Temple, and this one is to used for more old classic SC, and as it' with AvP, build your army system will be incorporated, giving you full experience of old SC + NPC (demons).

I'll take 20 of the new terminators, but at least one of the original dreadnoughts.

 jorny wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

Then seemingly neglecting to hire anyone who understood how physics functions around heavy sacks of flesh.
Except the not-Nurgle seems to be flopping around realistically, so I have no idea why all the not-sisters have helium tits rather than the pleasant curve of a weighted breast going on.

The physics and anatomy of breast seems to often escape sculptors. In this case it looks like they have used bad breast enlargements as their anatomy guide. But maybe it is because internet porn is cheaper than an actual book on anatomy.

From the 90's maybe, even porn stars don't have breasts that bad these days.

So I've heard...

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
One of the problem is advertising the product. The law is really badly done in EU, in general your kid may watch Star Wars with all it's valence (killing) but when it comes to nudity that is BIG NO!!! That's PG16 at least ...

That makes sense. I am used to sing PG-13 and R but didn't realize there was a difference between those ratings between countries (I should have known that though, so my bad). I just looked up the different ratings at least with movies between countries, it is interesting when comparing them with each other.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:


It' still a WIP but this is more less PG13+ version (need a bit more love for a Hero model)

The waist is smaller with armour than without, it's smaller than the things bloody leg.

 LordOfSmurfs wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:


It' still a WIP but this is more less PG13+ version (need a bit more love for a Hero model)

The waist is smaller with armour than without, it's smaller than the things bloody leg.

Thats because she survived the first game, even though she was shot in half since her torso wasn't armored, and everything below the tits is robotic

 LordOfSmurfs wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:


It' still a WIP but this is more less PG13+ version (need a bit more love for a Hero model)

Spoiler:

The waist is smaller with armour than without, it's smaller than the things bloody leg.

I kept comeing back and looking at the image thinking "Something dosen't look right here, but I'm not sure what...." Yah it's the torso is two thin with thows armoured plates.

 Dark Severance wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
In next few days we will reveal PG13+ miniatures as well. Thanks

I'm actually confused about this statement... mainly because these are PG-13 miniatures, at least in terms of movie rating with the exception of Mabs and Mamoona. Topless women is PG-13 rating, technically so is full frontal nudity, they just can't show sex or have graphic depictions of love-making. You can't use the F-word. Beyond that these are already PG-13.

You seem to be able to get in *one* F-Word nowadays (see Wolverine's response in X-Men first class), but good luck getting even a flacid dong past the MPAA in PG-13 movies (or an R for that matter!). Nudity in general has been cut back, whereas in the 70's/80's there were more "non-sexual" nudity, Perseus' mother's bare breasts in Clash of the Titans for example. Which seems absurd given that every kid with an internet connection has access to so much online porn that one has to actually work to AVOID it now. Back in my day, you had to walk 5 miles uphill both ways to find an old Playboy in the woods (and what manner of woods goblin ran around throwing slightly mildewy mags around?!).

I am surprised that the bikini clad models aren't the equivalent of PG-13 in the UK, given the old Page 3 girl thing in their tabloids.

Don't you dare blame this dislike of the designs on "children".
By doing so, you are saying that to appeal to adults, it must have nudity. It is insulting to your own customers and the hobby scene in general to pretend that only kids don't want helium breasts or pointlessly tiny armour on their models.

Plenty adults can work out what they want without being lead by their trousers.

I like tits. I like pizza.
I don't want to combine the two of these things. The pizza company do not have to use naked women to convince me it's worth buying.
I like tits. I like miniatures.
See what I'm getting at here?

...made myself hungry.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Don't you dare blame this dislike of the designs on "children".
By doing so, you are saying that to appeal to adults, it must have nudity. It is insulting to your own customers and the hobby scene in general to pretend that only kids don't want helium breasts or pointlessly tiny armour on their models.

Plenty adults can work out what they want without being lead by their trousers.

I like tits. I like pizza.
I don't want to combine the two of these things. The pizza company do not have to use naked women to convince me it's worth buying.
I like tits. I like miniatures.
See what I'm getting at here?

...made myself hungry.

Never seen a Carls Jr add, have you?

Bossk_Hogg wrote:

 Dark Severance wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
In next few days we will reveal PG13+ miniatures as well. Thanks

I'm actually confused about this statement... mainly because these are PG-13 miniatures, at least in terms of movie rating with the exception of Mabs and Mamoona. Topless women is PG-13 rating, technically so is full frontal nudity, they just can't show sex or have graphic depictions of love-making. You can't use the F-word. Beyond that these are already PG-13.

You seem to be able to get in *one* F-Word nowadays (see Wolverine's response in X-Men first class), but good luck getting even a flacid dong past the MPAA in PG-13 movies (or an R for that matter!). Nudity in general has been cut back, whereas in the 70's/80's there were more "non-sexual" nudity, Perseus' mother's bare breasts in Clash of the Titans for example. Which seems absurd given that every kid with an internet connection has access to so much online porn that one has to actually work to AVOID it now. Back in my day, you had to walk 5 miles uphill both ways to find an old Playboy in the woods (and what manner of woods goblin ran around throwing slightly mildewy mags around?!).

I am surprised that the bikini clad models aren't the equivalent of PG-13 in the UK, given the old Page 3 girl thing in their tabloids.

Anyone could buy The Sun newspaper (the one with Page 3). Not really a big deal seeing a pair of boobs, nothing kids won't see on any beach. I don't think nudity/sex is such a big issue as it is in the US.

Toys aren't general age rated either.

Nonetheless the models in this games are not good. The extra armour (such as it is) hasn't really improved them.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:


What Dakkadakkars think about his miniature , a future add-on for the SC game (or may be included in the main box as a free gift)

So...before or after everyone gets their AvP stuff? I'm actually hoping all the people who said they'd buy the...whatever you want to call them...just to spite those evil SJWs go ahead and preorder. The next couple years should be entertaining.

The dreadnought's not too bad - it ties a bit into the Penitent Engine, which I'm sure was the idea - but the 'force-fielded' terminators? The jetpack and biker ladies with their magically unburned lower bodies? Come on, now.

The new demon models don't bug me quite as much, actually. I guess it seems more 'body horror' than "LOOKATTHETIIIIIITS", and I'm a sucker for Geiger.