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It is actually rather shameful that many voted remain.

That last bit is most certainly not appropriate, thanks. motyak

 AndrewC wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 AndrewC wrote:
I had a conversation with the father-in-law a while back about this and a possible reason for the demographic on the age vote.

His generation was the ones who voted to join the common market as it was then known back in the day, and since that day, the common market has transformed into the present day EU with no consultation to the people who voted to join in the first place. Perhaps, and this is me trying to put 2 and 2 together, it may be the older voter is trying to undo a mistake they feel they made 40 years ago?

Sometimes we see our elders as racist bigots with not as good of an education but they have experience often and sometimes that's worth more than what you're taught in school (as that can be somebody pushing views on you whereas experience is just what you've seen yourself). Perhaps they know how the EU is and has been.

Alternatively, they've lived their lives enjoying the benefits of EU membership and are now screwing the younger generation out of them just like they've done with housing and pensions.

I'd be curious to hear how you come to that conclusion assuming that you're not just playing devils advocate?

Well, they've enjoyed free movement, free trade and free healthcare across the whole EU, which may now disappear for younger people. As for housing? Look at the numbers of young people renting vs. owning their own homes. Pensions? Look at how much older people get paid in their pensions compared to what younger people are predicted to get paid, not to mention the ever increasing pension age.

Also, the UK may have just hamstrung it's science sector which, thanks to access to EU funding, cooperation, personnel and facilities, was outperforming the US. So yeah, pretty annoyed as that could have a pretty detrimental effect on my future career.

Free healthcare ?

 SolarCross wrote:
It is actually rather shameful that many voted remain.

cleaning up

Well that doesn't make you sound like a serial killer

 SolarCross wrote:
It is actually rather shameful that many voted remain.

cleaning up

You're joking right? Because if so, poor taste. And if not, I suggest you re-evaluate your life.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:


Also, the UK may have just hamstrung it's science sector which, thanks to access to EU funding, cooperation, personnel and facilities, was outperforming the US. So yeah, pretty annoyed as that could have a pretty detrimental affect on my future career.

Oh so they pay us some of the money back that they take from us and that is supposed to hurt us when they stop? Lol.

 godardc wrote:
Free healthcare ?

As part of the EU we could healthcare paid for by the NHS anywhere in the EU. If we leave that is not guaranteed.

 Ustrello wrote:

 SolarCross wrote:
It is actually rather shameful that many voted remain.

cleaning up

Well that doesn't make you sound like a serial killer

Yeah sounds like somebody should be checked for weapons so there are no sprees (at least of the killing variety).

I'm sorry, what is the NHS ?

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 godardc wrote:
Free healthcare ?

As part of the EU we could healthcare paid for by the NHS anywhere in the EU. If we leave that is not guaranteed.

I'm sure most people will be able to fork out £20 for insurance like when travelling to America, or indeed, anywhere else. It only takes ten minutes on the internet.

 SolarCross wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:


Also, the UK may have just hamstrung it's science sector which, thanks to access to EU funding, cooperation, personnel and facilities, was outperforming the US. So yeah, pretty annoyed as that could have a pretty detrimental affect on my future career.

Oh so they pay us a some of the money back that they take from us and that is supposed to hurt us when they stop? Lol.

No, they facilitate cooperation, funding and resources which have made the EU the scientific capital of the world. The UK punches above its weight when it comes to research, but only thanks to our international research. Our domestic research (i.e done all in country) is not as good.

 godardc wrote:
I'm sorry, what is the NHS ?

It was the National Health Service before the Tories decided to start privatising it bit by bit.

 Ketara wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 godardc wrote:
Free healthcare ?

As part of the EU we could healthcare paid for by the NHS anywhere in the EU. If we leave that is not guaranteed.

I'm sure most people will be able to fork out £20 for insurance like when travelling to America, or indeed, anywhere else. It only takes ten minutes on the internet.

And for people who have pre-existing conditions or more complex medical needs?

 Ketara wrote:
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You're joking right? Because if so, poor taste. And if not, I suggest you re-evaluate your life.

Yeah it is a joke, sort of. I mean it is treachery, but probably not quite deserving of the death penalty.

So question. Do you guys have to legit leave if this goes through with most people voting to leave? I thought people said this is more of something the government can merely consider rather than follow through with. That said it'd really anger a lot of people if they didn't follow through.

@SolarCross: Well it was in fairly poor taste and you may want to re-evaluate your posts next time so a mod doesn't ban you. I'm not mod though so whatever. I'll leave it in their hands.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 Ketara wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 godardc wrote:
Free healthcare ?

As part of the EU we could healthcare paid for by the NHS anywhere in the EU. If we leave that is not guaranteed.

I'm sure most people will be able to fork out £20 for insurance like when travelling to America, or indeed, anywhere else. It only takes ten minutes on the internet.

And for people who have pre-existing conditions or more complex medical needs?

Then you are in precisely the same position you would be in when visiting most of the world.

With all due respect, the world is not a single government or institution, and expecting other countries to bend over backwards for you is somewhat baffling. Nobody is making you go abroad if you are physically incapable of travelling without regular or expensive treatment.

So results are showing that the UK is going to forge its own path and leave.

Whats that mean for them?

Well, as of right now the Brexit is happening. Witness the start of a new global economic disaster:

UK stocks have dropped by 9% and it's still 4 hours to market's open.
The Sterling Pound is in freefall, dropping 10.5% in value from $1.49 on the dollar to $1.32 on the dollar with no signs of slowing.
Japanese stocks have fallen by 10% as UK investors are trying to midigate loses by shifting investments there. Japan has just halted trading.

Gonna love seeing the economic fallout from this. Thanks UK. Thanks alot.

So, for example, if you were healed in France during a travel, the NHS would have paid for you, and now, it may be over ?

If they refused, it would be the first time in history that parliment went against the will of the people...

 RivenSkull wrote:
Well, as of right now the Brexit is happening. Witness the start of a new global economic disaster:

UK stocks have dropped by 9% and it's still 4 hours to market's open.
The Sterling Pound is in freefall, dropping 10.5% in value from $1.49 on the dollar to $1.32 on the dollar with no signs of slowing.
Japanese stocks have fallen by 10% as UK investors are trying to midigate loses by shifting investments there.

Gonna love seeing the economic fallout from this. Thanks UK. Thanks alot.

If you'd care to rejoin the British Empire, you might be able to stabilise it. After all, clearly you value economic stability over national sovereignty?


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The Remain lead just hit a million. Show is definitely over folks.

 Ketara wrote:

 RivenSkull wrote:
Well, as of right now the Brexit is happening. Witness the start of a new global economic disaster:

UK stocks have dropped by 9% and it's still 4 hours to market's open.
The Sterling Pound is in freefall, dropping 10.5% in value from $1.49 on the dollar to $1.32 on the dollar with no signs of slowing.
Japanese stocks have fallen by 10% as UK investors are trying to midigate loses by shifting investments there.

Gonna love seeing the economic fallout from this. Thanks UK. Thanks alot.

If you'd care to rejoin the British Empire, you might be able to stabilise it. After all, clearly you value economic stability over national sovereignty?

Nah... we'd add to our family.

England 51st state...
N. Ireland 52nd state...
Scotland 53rd state...
Wales 54th state...

and... to round it up:
Puerto Rico 55th state...

Then we can celebrate TWO Independence Day! (6/23 & 7/4)

 Ketara wrote:

 RivenSkull wrote:
Well, as of right now the Brexit is happening. Witness the start of a new global economic disaster:

UK stocks have dropped by 9% and it's still 4 hours to market's open.
The Sterling Pound is in freefall, dropping 10.5% in value from $1.49 on the dollar to $1.32 on the dollar with no signs of slowing.
Japanese stocks have fallen by 10% as UK investors are trying to midigate loses by shifting investments there.

Gonna love seeing the economic fallout from this. Thanks UK. Thanks alot.

If you'd care to rejoin the British Empire, you might be able to stabilise it. After all, clearly you value economic stability over national sovereignty?


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The Remain lead just hit a million. Show is definitely over folks.

Where are you seeing that? BBC and CNN are both showing that Leave is winning

Wait so question from an Aussie-American Halfbreed...

What are the arguments for and against?

 Ketara wrote:


Then you are in precisely the same position you would be in when visiting most of the world.

With all due respect, the world is not a single government or institution, and expecting other countries to bend over backwards for you is somewhat baffling. Nobody is making you go abroad if you are physically incapable of travelling without regular or expensive treatment.

So it's okay to be angry at some vague idea of "sovereignty" but baffling to be upset at actual restrictions to my life?

Seems a bit backwards to me.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Ketara wrote:

 RivenSkull wrote:
Well, as of right now the Brexit is happening. Witness the start of a new global economic disaster:

UK stocks have dropped by 9% and it's still 4 hours to market's open.
The Sterling Pound is in freefall, dropping 10.5% in value from $1.49 on the dollar to $1.32 on the dollar with no signs of slowing.
Japanese stocks have fallen by 10% as UK investors are trying to midigate loses by shifting investments there.

Gonna love seeing the economic fallout from this. Thanks UK. Thanks alot.

If you'd care to rejoin the British Empire, you might be able to stabilise it. After all, clearly you value economic stability over national sovereignty?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
The Remain lead just hit a million. Show is definitely over folks.

Where are you seeing that? BBC and CNN are both showing that Leave is winning

My mistake, I meant Leave,

 Ketara wrote:

 RivenSkull wrote:
Well, as of right now the Brexit is happening. Witness the start of a new global economic disaster:

UK stocks have dropped by 9% and it's still 4 hours to market's open.
The Sterling Pound is in freefall, dropping 10.5% in value from $1.49 on the dollar to $1.32 on the dollar with no signs of slowing.
Japanese stocks have fallen by 10% as UK investors are trying to midigate loses by shifting investments there.

Gonna love seeing the economic fallout from this. Thanks UK. Thanks alot.

If you'd care to rejoin the British Empire, you might be able to stabilise it. After all, clearly you value economic stability over national sovereignty?

If it would mean the Queen could dissolve our Congress like she did in Australia in 1975 and let us reelect a completely new body, that might be preferable.

Pound Sterling is fake money these days, same as dollar, euros and the rest, whether they go up or down means about as much as the trade in Pogs. Gold is going up.

Time to get my Credit Card ready for tomorrow.

For reasons.

 RivenSkull wrote:

 Ketara wrote:

 RivenSkull wrote:
Well, as of right now the Brexit is happening. Witness the start of a new global economic disaster:

UK stocks have dropped by 9% and it's still 4 hours to market's open.
The Sterling Pound is in freefall, dropping 10.5% in value from $1.49 on the dollar to $1.32 on the dollar with no signs of slowing.
Japanese stocks have fallen by 10% as UK investors are trying to midigate loses by shifting investments there.

Gonna love seeing the economic fallout from this. Thanks UK. Thanks alot.

If you'd care to rejoin the British Empire, you might be able to stabilise it. After all, clearly you value economic stability over national sovereignty?

If it would mean the Queen could dissolve our Congress like she did in Australia in 1975 and let us reelect a completely new body, that might be preferable.

Oh snap! The Queen can do that?!?!

Ketara... we may need to take you up on that offer.