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I'm a little jealous of the score a friend about an hour away from me scored earlier in the week off of Craigslist - a near complete copy of Warhammer 40K 2nd edition. Most of the minis were off the sprue and had gobs of paint on them, but the books and card components were all present and in superb condition. Most of the card had never been punched out. Did I mention that he only paid $20 for this treasure trove? And there were some Bretonnians and other miscellaneous minis included, too....truly a deal for the ages. I've made some nice finds over the years, but nothing close to this. Anyone else ever score a sweet deal like this out there?
When I worked at a gw store, a lad came in with a bag and just handed it to me. He said something like "my uncle gave me these and I don't like them." Then he left. It contained the first 18 books in the heresy series. Couldn't justify not reading them after that.
I don't get jealous of other peoples good fortune as we all get it in different ways, but you are more likely to find bargain buys if you are actively seeking them out.
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I bought a small WHFB Dark elf army for 80 SEK (around $10) in a second hand shop in Stockholm. it contained two regiments with spears (25 each), two with repeater crossbows (20 each), 10 knights on cold ones, 10 shades and some assasins and heroes. One each of the crossbow and spearmen regiments where 6th edition plastics, the rest was 4th-5th edition metal. It all came in a GW case.
I managed to sell the plastics and the case for 500 SEK (I think the starting bid was 9 SEK) on Tradera (swedish ebay).
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I got almost exactly the same deal on ebay about 4 years ago. Someone was selling a 40k 2nd edition box. I bid on it, and ended up being the only bidder so I got it for £21. It's in remarkably good condition, all the miniatures were there (unpainted), and all the books and cards look unused. Which was fantastic because my 2nd ed books are fairly raggedy now. It also included a ton of extras from White Dwarf (circa 1997), like Space Hulk board sections, datafax cards, Necromunda/Gorkamorka terrain, bits for Epic 40k. AND, there were a couple of extra miniatures to boot. It's now all very much loved.
I also got a very good deal on an old version of Space Hulk 1989. It was being sold as incomplete and in poor condition, but when I read through the listing, the game was complete apart from the plastic terminators, which the seller had replaced with 10 or 11 old school metal terminators, and the bad condition was mainly pertaining to the box and the painted miniatures. The seller said that the box was so beaten up, that he wouldn't even bother including it unless requested. I requested that he send the box. The box took a little bit of fixing up... I used a hair-dryer to carefully remove all the old Sellotape without damaging the box further, then I flattened the whole thing out and ironed all the creases and dents out. Then I reassembled it and reinforced the ripped corners. It ended up good as new (well almost), certainly a keeper. The miniatures were easy to strip back to new, (and I have a load of spare miniatures from Space Hulk so it was easy to complete). All the board sections, tokens and books were in good condition, and only one section missing, which I eventually found being sold single on ebay (the exact tile). So I was able to restore the whole game back to very good condition, and I got a whole bunch of RT terminators to boot, which were probably worth more on their own than I paid for the game.
I've had quite a few good deals from buying badly painted miniatures and stripping them.
I once found a complete Waddington's Dark World (kind of like Hero Quest) in a charity shop in almost mint condition. They sold it to me for £2.
By far my best deal was back before ebay was really a thing. A guy I knew from school was getting out of the hobby (this was about 1999), so he sold me everything he owned for £20. It was a whole Space Marine army, which included Predator Annihilators, a Metal Dreadnought and Land Speeder, some Attack Bikes, about 50 Plastic Marines, ~20 Plastic Terminators. A bunch of assorted metal characters and squads etc... It also included the limited edition all metal Legion of Damned squad (which is worth a small fortune now). He also had an army of mostly metal Squats which he had mail ordered, so I got all those, and a small Eldar force (aspect warriors, a Falcon, dreadnought, Jetbikes, metal Avatar etc...), and I think quite a few plastic chaos marines. All of it piled together in shoe-boxes.
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A few pictures of his score....this wasn't everything, and there were a few minis missing. Still, this probably would easily have gotten $75-$100 on eBay.
I took some pictures of my one too, so you may all be jealous
This lot cost me £21...
Spoiler:
This isn't everything, the marines are packed away in another box, and some of the white dwarf inserts have been distributed to their various games (such as Space Hulk). Below is a photo of the 40k box, and also the Space Hulk box which I restored...
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Do people actually want this stuff?
The UK market is bad for it, people are virtually giving it away.
The models and scenery are dated, rules are obsolete and while they'll always have a special place in my heart, they were badly written and over complicated.
Some of the artwork and fluff in the books is good stuff though
So yeah, maye a nice nostalgia trip but nothing more.
Space hulk is still okay although the new models and board blew the old stuff out the airlock.
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Alex Kolodotschko wrote: Do people actually want this stuff?
The UK market is bad for it, people are virtually giving it away.
The models and scenery are dated, rules are obsolete and while they'll always have a special place in my heart, they were badly written and over complicated. Some of the artwork and fluff in the books is good stuff though
So yeah, maye a nice nostalgia trip but nothing more.
About the bolded bit.. in light of 6th edition, I view this as equivalent someone telling me that Shades of Grey is better written than Asimov
I don't think 2nd ed was badly written or overcomplicated. It was more detailed, for sure... but the rules themselves actually had less abstraction and more redundancy, which I think made it easier to grasp, and allowed much more room for creativity with far less stuff.
It probably did outgrow itself in the end, after so many expansions that was probably inevitable, but the core system was pretty good.
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Jackal wrote: Over here the carboot sales can be amazing for it.
I've had mixed success at the old British Car boot sale. I scored a marine captain, bike and a 10 men squad for a couple of quid and some older Forge World books for the same price. But a guy was selling some 2nd ed stuff that when I offered him 50p per marine he wanted ebay prices. I told him to jog on and sell the stuff on ebay then.
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I've never seen a swap meet that didn't have at least one guy trying to get eBay prices for his goods.
Hell, half of the auctions on eBay for anything OOP are fairly unrealistic Buy-it-now listings. Remember kids, market price isn't what people list auctions for on eBay, it's what they actually sell for.
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totalfailure wrote: I'm a little jealous of the score a friend about an hour away from me scored earlier in the week off of Craigslist - a near complete copy of Warhammer 40K 2nd edition. Most of the minis were off the sprue and had gobs of paint on them, but the books and card components were all present and in superb condition. Most of the card had never been punched out. Did I mention that he only paid $20 for this treasure trove? And there were some Bretonnians and other miscellaneous minis included, too....truly a deal for the ages. I've made some nice finds over the years, but nothing close to this. Anyone else ever score a sweet deal like this out there?
Oh yeah. I've seen it, seen friends get it, etc. Any time you can buy hobby stuff through non-hobby channels (craigslist, garage sales, swap meets, etc) you can really clean up. For example, at the Adepticon Bitz Swap last year, I got a new in shrink wrap Heroes of Helms Deep for $1. A guy just held it up, and said "I'll take a buck." I had the buck, got the box. Another guy sold me a NIB Arachnarock, Boar Chariot, Rock Lobba, and O&G Book for $50. It's crazy what kind of deals you can get.
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I only tend to be interested in stuff I'd actually use, so I have turned away crazy deals and such so that others can have them. I just don't need more stuff for the sake of stuff.
Though my OH did once score complete BFG, boxed with extra minis from under me for £15 at a trade show. I was not so much jealous as annoyed I'd not made it clearer I was going to buy it.
All's fair in love and Wargaming. Sigh.
Closest I got was finding a blistered genestealer magus and familiars in a wee gaming shop, years ago. By this time the magus was already well OOP and arguably a collector's item. A fiver.
Alex Kolodotschko wrote:rules are obsolete
Regardless of any of the other perceived faults, if a couple of people want to play them, and do, then rules are never obsolete. Otherwise Oldhammer and 9th Age wouldn't be things.
A club-mate just bought his old friend's entire collection for £200 - all old mid/late-90s stuff the friend had dug out of his attic and was gonna throw away.
I bought the Daemon section:
2 Blood thirsters, 2 Lords of Change, 1 Azazel, 1 Daemon Prince, 48 Bloodletters, 16 Flesh Hounds, 22 Horrors, 5 Fiends, 11 Flamers, a load of Chaos Warriors and Knights.
All for £50....
The club-mate got a Dark Eldar army, a Lizardmen army, a Dark Elf army, a load of Imperial Guard and vehicles and some Necromunda stuff too....
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I once purchased an unused Space Wolves Battleforce box (either on sprues or just clipped off), additional box of Grey Hunters/Space Wolves wolf pack, master of the relics still in box on blister pack, dreadnought, landspeeder, plus a load of extra marine bits like legs, arms, guns, backpacks and a load of Sternguard still on the sprues. It cost me around £40 on eBay.
I find the best buys you can get are the job lots/bundles. Keep what you want and sell the rest. If you can sell the items in it separately for more than you paid for them together (whilst keeping the units you want) then effectively the units you keep you have got for free once you have sold all the rest to recoup what you spent in the first place.
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"For The Emperor and Sanguinius!"
My Armies:
Blood Angels, Ultramarines,
Astra Militarum,
Mechanicus
My mom's quilting friend moved out, and her son asked her to "go through" his collection.
So I got.
Warhammer Quest without books, in awesome condition, and with expansions, plus a bunch of chaos and wood elf stuff.
Man-o-war in horrid condition. Basically half the boats missing, sails torn off and masts ripped brutally out.
WFB winds of magic expansion set. Very good condition.
plus a bunch of models, like elves, undead (old ones, with plastic bleached bone) and bretons.
Battletech and a bunch of expansions.
and a whole heap of enamel paint.
Battletech was sold onto my flgs for about $120, Man-o-war was sold there as well, for $50. I kept Warhammer Quest, still looking for the books.
Just because its old, doesn't mean its good. Those 2nd ed space marines and gretchin...omg the horror of trying to paint them. All in the exact same boring pose.
I do like the books for the artwork and fluff, though.
I always make it a habit of picking up old books and boxes anywhere I can. Local game store has a used section where I've picked up a bunch of older edition rulebooks.
Checking out Craigslist net me about 1000pts of old school dark elves which, combined with all the other Dark Elf models I manage dot get my hands on over the years for (either free or for SIGNIFICANTLY less then their regular price) I have managed to acquire a whole 2250pt army for about 180$.
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I picked up one of the second edition rulebooks (not the more rare sourcebooks) on ebay a few years ago for 99p (don't worry Dakka was very quick to tell me how common they are, how i was 'ripped off' and how they were giving them away at tradeshows.) i didn't find it that hard to follow but if iirc the assault phase was an absolute clusterbug.
I am jealous of what people can get for flogging certain models, regardless of condition, on ebay. Around the time of the first EDIT: 'new' Dark Eldar codex the amount people were getting for near unsavageable Vyper jetbikes was insane. Right place at the right time i guess. Hopefully Cadians will go oop, i have a fair few of them and they're not even badly assembled.
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Mary Sue wrote: Perkustin is even more awesome than me!
This story below happened to me a couple of years ago, the original post is over at Warseer so I'll just copy/paste it here. It's phrased as if it was yesterday, but you get the idea.
I sold 90% of this off, the guy basically paid my tuition for that year of university lmao.
Spoiler:
So yesterday I finish work, the gym, eating, then I try to lay down and sleep. Before I nod off though, I decided to check my Kijiji page (a local trading site, can find almost everything on here). I have the page bookmarked to auto-search the term 'Warhammer', to only show results related to Warhammer Fantasy/40K - anything with the keyword in it.
I see an ad posted less than 2 minutes prior saying 'URGENT - FREE - WARHAMMER MODELS, FIRST TO RESPOND GETS IT ALL'.
I quickly text message the fellow and he says I won the race, but he lives about 1 hour away from me (at this point I was adamant he'd decline my request and wait for the next dummy). I tell him "I'll pay you to drive the models to me!", he says "No worries, happy to drive them to you". I'm quite happy at the moment. I don't really care what the items are, I can always use items for conversions/trade with friends/sell, etc.
So a couple of hours go by, and the guy messages me saying he is close by. He still hasn't given me any details, as he sounded as if he was in a rush and I'm not going to risk annoying him into reconsidering. I was expecting maybe a couple of regiments of something, or a squad or two from 40K or whatnot.
He arrives, and the guy unloads all THIS from his car:
My jaw absolutely dropped. Within one of the boxes there were all these:
Every case is LOADED to capacity with models. One case is chock FULL of a DKOK army!! The DKOK was claimed by a friend before I got home, he's always wanted one so I gave it to him lol. The other cases have an embarrassing amount of IG models and Catachan models. Tons of sentinels and weapons teams in particular. One of the boxes contains the last 4 editions of rulebooks from both game systems, and the codexes/army books for all the armies he gave me. A bunch of LotR crap too, but that will likely be tossed, can't give that stuff away, lol.
The other boxes contained a TON of models all carefully wrapped, it appears to be a very large Orcs & Goblins army (many brand new/on sprue still), a large Tomb Kings army, and an enormous - ENORMOUS Imperial Guard army:
Yes, that's a Baneblade.
One other box contained a whole lot of very high quality scenery. Some of it is official GW stuff (old OOP trees, modular hills, bunkers, etc), but the prettiest piece imo was this:
The Warhammer fortress. I've never owned one before since I'm not into Fantasy, but I may consider using the Tomb King army, or the O&G army now.
He also gave me his tool/hobby kit which contains many of the Citadel hobby tools/supplies, and a ton of basing material, mainly static grass and flock, some sand and tiny rocks.
Thanks in advance.
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Perkustin wrote: i didn't find it that hard to follow but if iirc the assault phase was an absolute clusterbug.
The assaults were very straight forward, if two models were in base to base contact, then they had a fight. As I said before, there was much less abstraction: no piling in, or wound allocation, or sweeping advances or anything like that... All the fights were 1 on 1, and CC weapons had exactly the same profile as ranged weapons, so once you grasped how damage worked, it was all consistent. The combat system wasn't hard... you just rolled your Attack Dice, picked the highest result and added it to your Weapon Skill, and that was the miniatures combat score. The model with the highest combat score won, and the difference in the scores was the number of hits they inflicted, then it worked the same as shooting hits (roll for damage etc...), initiative was only used if there was a tie.
The fights did have more detail, but I wouldn't say it was complicated, because it was just a list of modifiers really. There were a number of ways to add +1 or -1 to your combat score. For example, charging gave you +1, being encumbered with a heavy weapon was -1, ganging up on someone gave you +1 for each addition attacker, if you rolled any additional 6s or 1s on your attack dice, they were crits and fumbles and added +1/-1 respectively. Miniatures with swords and lightning claws could also parry and force a dice to be re-rolled, and some characters had special moves, like Ghazghkull Thraka, who could headbutt people with his adamantium skull.
It might sound tedious to you: fighting all the combats one at a time, but there were fewer models, and it was actually kind of the highlight of the game, having your heroes hammer it out in blow by blow detail.
Cave_Dweller wrote: Just because its old, doesn't mean its good. Those 2nd ed space marines and gretchin...omg the horror of trying to paint them. All in the exact same boring pose.
I also used to hate the marines at the time, I figured GW made them boring on purpose to punish people for not buying metal. Since then, however, they have grown on me. It's not just nostalgia, I think I've just come to appreciate their unassuming functionality as game pieces. Of course, it doesn't hurt that they're OOP, and a bit more special nowadays, I think it's harder to find appreciation for models when they are basically the Pidgey of the wargamming world. Once I stopped seeing them everywhere I was able to see them differently.
I'm still not a fan of the Orks, being all short in the weird "squatting pose"... though at least they were easy to convert.
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Back last year when I used to buy and sell warhammer on ebay, I picked up a Tyranid army worth about \£700 for £50. He'd listed pickup only, which deterred all other bidders, but was happy to courier it over to me. I half expected him to welch and not send it, but he was a real gentleman about it all.
Another time, I got a BNIB Space Marine and Ork battleforces for £30. If you're prepared to put in the legwork on ebay, and know what to look for, there are some really good deals. You can usually find models at 50% of RRP if you know what you're doing.
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12 IG vehicles (leman russ, hellhounds)
approx 100 plastic squats for use wth the vehicles
Armorcast Warhound titan
tons of marines, and nurgle chaos stuff
Slaaneshi Noise marines and daemonettes
plus books, and paints
$200 bucks or so
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Omega Marines (vanilla Space Marine): W-1, L-6, T-2
Waagh Magshak (Orks): W-4, L-0, T-1
A.V.P.D.W.: W-0, L-2, T-0
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