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When I first saw the Crystal Skull, I thought it was terrible, but then inexplicably I found myself wanting to watch it again. Aside from the usual terrible computer effects, and the thinly veiled threat of a Shia LaBeouf spin off, I kind of like it. Without it, the term "nuking the fridge" would never have been coined.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I've never understood the popular internet hatred for Crystal Skull.

Aliens are no sillier than the Grail or the Ark.

Cold War Soviets are just as good an enemy as pre-WW2 Nazis.

Surviving a blast wave by hiding in a fridge is no more ridiculous than surviving a voyage on the outside of a submarine.

Swinging through the trees on vines is no more unrealistic than sledding down the Himalayas in a rubber life raft.

I think you're right, aliens are just as good as religious artifacts, in both cases they're just little bits at the ends of the movies, the bulk of every film is just pulp adventure. And Cold War Ruskies are as much fun as Nazis, and honestly I think we should start treating them as disposable villains like Nazis in more movies.

But the hatred of Crystal Skull very unenjoyable movie. I think the problem is that we start rejecting the crazy action scenes once we've lost engagement with the characters. When Ford was at the top of his game bickering with Marion or that guy played by Jonothan Rhys Davies, or Sean Connery then we're along for the ride and any crazy action scenes become fun even when they're pretty silly. But in Crystal Skull Ford was so lifeless, giving Marion nothing to work with, and then it adds in Shia LaBeouf doing a version of what 10 years think was cool about the 50s, then we're already bored and so when the action starts up we just sit looking at how far fetched it all is.

They should make a movie version of 'Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis'.

 filbert wrote:
They should make a movie version of 'Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis'.

Yep. It's just ridiulous how they haven't come up with the idea yet. Its story is an actual, genuine Indiana Jones story, the theme is interesting and with his girl sidekick (Sophia? Been a long time...), there's plenty of (already existing!) interesting dialogue potential. Just do it, it's not that hard.

Stompzilla wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I've never understood the popular internet hatred for Crystal Skull.

Aliens are no sillier than the Grail or the Ark.

Cold War Soviets are just as good an enemy as pre-WW2 Nazis.

Surviving a blast wave by hiding in a fridge is no more ridiculous than surviving a voyage on the outside of a submarine.

Swinging through the trees on vines is no more unrealistic than sledding down the Himalayas in a rubber life raft.

Dude, they opened the film by nuking the fridge. It was a travesty.

No beer in fridge though. Thank Gawd

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Guys you don't understand why this is a great thing; Indiana Jones works off an every-other system.

Raiders of the Lost Arc = Good
Temple of Doom = Bad
Last Crusade = Good
Crystal Skull = Bad

Following the trend, we can see that the 5th movie will be good, it's the SIXTH movie you need to worry about.

Temple of Doom wasn't bad.

I agree!

I rather like Temple of Doom!

For me, they're all good up until the 4th - which is an...OK movie, but not up to the 'original trilogy'.

Still, I've got high hopes and expectations, as I think they'll truly try to pass the torch/whip/etc. with this one!

I too think that Temple of Doom wasn't a bad Indiana Jones movie, it had a distinctly different style. It isn't up on par with the other parts of the trilogy, though, and to me, it's mainly because of Indiana's sidekicks. Both his female and kid sidekick were very annoying and mainly stood out for their shrieking voices. Apart from that, the darker, grittier style was a welcome change. Out of all 3 movies, however, it's the worst.

How about this,

set the movie in 2017 after an (unlikely) Trump victory,

the new president has opened up the warehouses of 'Oooh Spooky' stuff like the Arc after dismissing all of the 'top people' studying it and started opening the crates and messing about with the contents

With the apocalypse approaching a small team of people approach the exceptionally geriatric Indiana Jones, one of the few adventurers ever to have first hand contact with these sort of things 'in the wild' to try and remove the stuff from the presidents hands before disaster (and the apocalypse) hits

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
How about this,

set the movie in 2017 after an (unlikely) Trump victory,

the new president has opened up the warehouses of 'Oooh Spooky' stuff like the Arc after dismissing all of the 'top people' studying it and started opening the crates and messing about with the contents

With the apocalypse approaching a small team of people approach the exceptionally geriatric Indiana Jones, one of the few adventurers ever to have first hand contact with these sort of things 'in the wild' to try and remove the stuff from the presidents hands before disaster (and the apocalypse) hits

Sure, if you want a geriatric Indiana Jones older than 100. Wasn't he like in his 60's or 70's in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, which is set in the late 50's? Why not set it in the 60's and have the President be JFK or Lyndon B Johnson? Perhaps JFK wanted to use ancient artefacts as weapons of mass destruction in the Cold War.

It also wouldn't be a very interesting premise. Instead of the setting being ancient booby trapped temples, jungles, European castles and Nazi/Soviet military bases, it would be set in Area 51 warehouses and American cities? Part of the appeal of an Indiana Jones film is the sense of mystery as he delves into ancient myths and legends and follows them to their source, explores the ancient ruins, fights the bad guy and keeps the artefact out of the wrong hands

Having several several unrelated ancient artefacts would stretch the story too thing as the film wouldn't be able to focus and give enough attention to each artefact and culture to do them justice.


I think the next film should be set in China and Mongolia. Some region of the world that hasn't been seen yet. We've had South America (KotCS), India (ToD), Egypt (RotLA), the Holy Land (TLC). The Great Wall, Forbidden city and the steppes of Mongolia would be a cool setting.

Yeah, that's getting a bit too much into "Warehouse 13" or "The Librarians" territory.

Africa will probably be ruled out due to similarities to Crystal Skull. - Unless, maybe, is there anything they can do in the Savannahs?

Maybe Japan. If the "Ghost Stories" board game has taught me anything, there's a whole host of Japanese spookiness they can go for.

Ok, so I had an idea which would allow them to milk the series even longer and maybe not result in the movie being terrible.

The movie will be called Indiana Jones and the Fountain of Youth. Long and short is they find it and Indiana drinks from it. As a result, he turns into his 20 something self played by a new actor. With said new actor they continue making another few films set during the Cold War with Commies as the opponents of the now rejuvenated Indiana Jones.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Ok, so I had an idea which would allow them to milk the series even longer and maybe not result in the movie being terrible.

The movie will be called Indiana Jones and the Fountain of Youth. Long and short is they find it and Indiana drinks from it. As a result, he turns into his 20 something self played by a new actor. With said new actor they continue making another few films set during the Cold War with Commies as the opponents of the now rejuvenated Indiana Jones.

But wouldn't he have to sell his soul or something? Seems like there'd be a severe cost like there was for drinking from the holy grail in The Last Crusade (drink from the grail and pledge yourself to eternal service as the grail's gaurdian). I like it though - keeps the timeline intact and avoids remaking the original films. I hate remakes because they're rarely original and usually over reliant on nostalgic reverence for the original films. Sequels are usually better.

I don't recall any of the stories about the Fountain having any strings attached to its eternal youth, it was more that finding the fountain is perilous.

Besides Indy always struck me as a "We must do it! For SCIENCE!" kind of guy.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Ok, so I had an idea which would allow them to milk the series even longer and maybe not result in the movie being terrible.

The movie will be called Indiana Jones and the Fountain of Youth. Long and short is they find it and Indiana drinks from it. As a result, he turns into his 20 something self played by a new actor. With said new actor they continue making another few films set during the Cold War with Commies as the opponents of the now rejuvenated Indiana Jones.

I'm actually cool with this idea.

Also, it's been confirmed that Lucas is in no way involved. That ought to be a good sign (see last Star Wars).

 Grey Templar wrote:
I don't recall any of the stories about the Fountain having any strings attached to its eternal youth, it was more that finding the fountain is perilous.

Besides Indy always struck me as a "We must do it! For SCIENCE!" kind of guy.

Clearly, this film will be a shadow sequel to Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, and we'll get a team up between Jack Sparrow and Indiana Jones

 LordofHats wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
I don't recall any of the stories about the Fountain having any strings attached to its eternal youth, it was more that finding the fountain is perilous.

Besides Indy always struck me as a "We must do it! For SCIENCE!" kind of guy.

Clearly, this film will be a shadow sequel to Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, and we'll get a team up between Jack Sparrow and Indiana Jones

Of the guardian of the Fountain is "Immortal Captain Jack Sparrow!"

If ol' Lucas still owned Star Wars (and Han wasn't killed in SW7), they could have based it on the cross-over comic story.

More interested audience members means an even larger amount of money!

 Alpharius wrote:
If they pretend like THE CRYSTAL SKULL doesn't exist, all is forgiven!

That movie was horrible...

Holy hell.