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whalemusic360 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
The BP cards are the only 'true' add-on, unless you're going for multiple Trog boxes?

Other than the elementals and the dice?

Azazelx wrote:Shows how forgettable the elementals pack is? They could make it more attractive by adding some KS-exclusive stretch goals to it.

Ha!

What I meant by that was 'new add-ons that would get the needle moving as the Elementals and Dice have, presumably, already made their impact on the pledge total' - but yeah, they clearly weren't very inspiring either...

Still, that little $8 add-on of Black Plague crossover stuff was more successful than I thought it would be!

We're less than $1K from the Nightmare Thing!



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And it is in!

But now we've got another $80K stretch, this time for a hero:

Sarah's noble lineage makes her a true leader. When she moves, she can take one her companions along with her for free. She's also no slouch in battle, rolling an extra yellow die in melee combat. Her recommended Noble Warrior class also grants her an extra blue Defense die in order to protect herself.

Sarah miniature.

PS: And yes, Sarah's Survivor ID Card will be added to the Black Plague Crossover Set.

Some backers are very unhappy that her breasts are not the typical over the top fantasy size.

Personally I am happy that they are going with a mix of build types and not just the usual overly sexualised stereotype.

Please, please, please, let's not discuss females in armor preferences. That discussion has been done to death, and never ends well.

Looks more like a human to me. Armor is not really what I would associate with elven armor

161 figs in the base pledge now for $120, many big ones, so value is here already.

Sining wrote:
Looks more like a human to me. Armor is not really what I would associate with elven armor

I figured it was an elf because of the armour. What threw me was the sword which looks like a typical fantasy human short sword.

Regarding the campaign, I really hope after Sarah we get another selection of enemy types. Zombicide sort of needed to go overboard with survivors, because the game focuses so much on Zombies. Massive Darkness is different, since it's a generic dungeon crawler. Enemy types are the lifeblood of the experience as well as heroes, and we've got a good selection of heroes already. Right now backers have got a huge amount of Roaming Monsters, and there's a bit more there if you have Black Plague as well as a couple of mob types. We need another base enemy type or two like the Ratlings they've teased to get that dungeon crawl feel.

Personally I'm hoping for gribblies small giant spiders, giant frogs. Generic crittersrater than a faction.

I want Ratlings before generic dungeon trash mostly to see their take on rat men. Also there's room there for some rat trash mobs. Rats and Ratling Handler boss. Ratling Warriors and Ratling Warrior boss. Ratling agent of some type. Giant Rat/Ratling Ogre Roaming Monster.

As a side note, would anyone like to take bets on whether MD will see release before HQ25?

 Llamahead wrote:
Personally I'm hoping for gribblies small giant spiders, giant frogs. Generic crittersrater than a faction.

Agreed ! That kind of monster would be really cool.
And always find that kind of thing more unsettling to fight in these games..

 Theophony wrote:
161 figs in the base pledge now for $120, many big ones, so value is here already.

The whole thing is almost at the point where I'd be willing to pay those 120 bucks to gamble on, say, a 50% recovery rate for models. Some of the big ones should not have any issues transitioning into PVC and those would probably be worth the asking price alone.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
161 figs in the base pledge now for $120, many big ones, so value is here already.

The whole thing is almost at the point where I'd be willing to pay those 120 bucks to gamble on, say, a 50% recovery rate for models. Some of the big ones should not have any issues transitioning into PVC and those would probably be worth the asking price alone.

Not sure if you've seen their other models (Blood Rage,b-sieged, zombicide and the Black Plague) but if you like the style of them these guys come out great. The monster sized guys from the ZBP Kickstarter are amazing. I'm not even questioning the elemental a box price anymore as I think the models size and shown definitions will easily justify them later. My only issue is getting the cash together as I'm strapped now and wondering if I'll get a better discount later from miniature market and not have to tack on the extra shipping fees to the Kickstarter.

Agreed with Theophony on model quality. I have maybe one badly moulded piece in my Black Plague stuff out of abut 200 models. Some weapon bending but nothing too bad.

I will totally pass on this but that spawn is amazing.

 NAVARRO wrote:
I will totally pass on this but that spawn is amazing.

Could ou elaborate as to why you are passing on it? Do you dislike the style of game? Price too much? Dislike CMoN? Too much hobby backlog?

I'm quite vocal how much I dislike Kickstarters in all shape and form. In all these years I only backed one and even if it was a positive experience I have seen to many good people burned by it, both developers and clients.
Call me a oldfashioned guy but my money goes to the companies that put their money upfront and sculpt, cast and then put live stock for sale. Concepts, ideas, preorder mechanisms do not get my investment. If the creators do not believe their projects enough to invest in it why should I? I dont preorder anything as principle too.

 NAVARRO wrote:
I'm quite vocal how much I dislike Kickstarters in all shape and form. In all these years I only backed one and even if it was a positive experience I have seen to many good people burned by it, both developers and clients.
Call me a oldfashioned guy but my money goes to the companies that put their money upfront and sculpt, cast and then put live stock for sale. Concepts, ideas, preorder mechanisms do not get my investment. If the creators do not believe their projects enough to invest in it why should I? I dont preorder anything as principle too.

Fair enough. I just look st CMoN as a glorified preorder with benefits though. All the stuff I've gotten from them (brick and mortar or Kickstarter) has been top notch, and would have been produced anyway. I see this just as a way of not taking on any additional bank loans to get production going, and that is good business sense to me.

I have seen your other posts, but I just prefer seeing why people are against it instead of just a statement of "not backing". It gives others more info to make their decisions instead of guesswork.

Totally understandable I just opted not to post my dislike for KS's again. I mean I see no wrong with this KS in particular and its almost a sure success that will be delivered... also the minis look quite nice.
As much as I would like that spawn I can live without if it means supporting another KS.

Without going to much on a tangent I find it really annoying to see so many companies doing KS after KS and with a backlog of minis still not produced for the general public. I know 6 months or 1 year down the path they will probably be there, but by then I have different projects.

Mutter wrote:

Spoiler:

Only passively following this but is there a chance of a R&B crossover? I know it's a long shot since there is so much content but it would be crazy.

Unlikely, I'd think.

I don't see those themes matching up well here.

Zombicide: Black Plague is a no brainier - and I still can't believe how much momentum - and money! - that little $8 add-on generated for them!

I could see a Wrath of Kings or a Dark Age crossover happening though...

There's another problem with those sorts of crossovers - who holds the IP. CMoN is a publisher for these games, but may not necessarily hold the IP rights to do crossovers. Guillotine Games are the developers of Zombicide and now Massive Darkness, so doing a crossover with their own game doesn't have any legal issues.

Rum and Bones was made by... Five Houses? That's the other company on the box. They simply might not be allowed to do crossovers with other games.

 -Loki- wrote:
Rum and Bones was made by... Five Houses? That's the other company on the box. They simply might not be allowed to do crossovers with other games.

Which might rule out a Wrath of Kings crossover, as that was also Five Houses

 NAVARRO wrote:
I'm quite vocal how much I dislike Kickstarters in all shape and form. In all these years I only backed one and even if it was a positive experience I have seen to many good people burned by it, both developers and clients.
Call me a oldfashioned guy but my money goes to the companies that put their money upfront and sculpt, cast and then put live stock for sale. Concepts, ideas, preorder mechanisms do not get my investment. If the creators do not believe their projects enough to invest in it why should I? I dont preorder anything as principle too.

That's understandable. I got burned on the Dust Tactics kickstarter.

However, I've backed many and had just that one problem. Not only that C'MON has a transparent trackrecord of delivering exactly what's ordered. They've had may big successes and have gotten the process down pat. From Zombicide up sculpts are great, and the quality is great. I've had no complaints.

Just like Blood Rage, I'm getting this for my D&D group. If I actually get to play the game, it's going to be a double bonus.

I think you would be completely safe if you wanted to take a risk on this.

Title Updated - and it looks like we'll have some new stretch goals soon!

I hope it is more Demons - minions, brutes, bosses and an agent!

Demon minions/bosses/agent to go with the Demon Roaming Monster would be pretty sweet. I'd take that over Ratlings.

But we really do need those Ratlings.

Just hit $1670K

New goals sooooooooon!

Plus actual physical sculpts/ production minis!?!?

That's the resin master.

 Theophony wrote:
That's the resin master.

so he kicks resin butt?

 usernamesareannoying wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
That's the resin master.

so he kicks resin butt?

this is a resin copy of the original green. they make a few of these and then chop them up if needed to find the best way to mold the model for plastic production. It would be much more expensive if all the models were resin instead of plastic, but resin usually keeps more of the detail.

The Oni is nice, but his ankles look like he skipped out early on leg day. I was hoping by the updates texts that we were getting more demons......even though I love Oni.