Massive Darkness (CMON) News and Rumors Thread

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**NewTruthNeomaxim**

I'm glad Highlord posted... I was sincerely worried for his heart-health when I saw the update in my inbox. :-p

In his honor, Seraphon shall also hit the table today. Meanwhile, that add-on box, in multiples is now the dirt-cheapest way to make a Kings of War Lizard army, ever. :-p

**RiTides**

That troll is so oldschool and awesome! I've pledged for a game now

(mostly for Wehrkind but I'll find a use for a few of these sweet monsters!).

**Azazelx**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
Aeneades wrote:
I wouldn't expect a final bump until the 48 hour warning messages go out in 14 hours time.

Actually, in most cases, for a CMoN KS, the thing starts to climb 3 or 4 days before the end, although it's most visible in the final 48.

For this one to go so close to the wire is unusual.

Probably a case of most interested people having backed in the first day or two. Gaming KS from established players especially but also in general have been getting more and more front-loaded in the last year.

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JohnHwangDD wrote:
I'm assuming if this had zoomed up like BP, the Lizardmen or Ratlings would have been SG freebies.

CMON know exactly what they're doing. I don't think any probable freebies have suddenly become paid add-one.

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RiTides wrote:
That troll is so oldschool and awesome! I've pledged for a game now (mostly for Wehrkind but I'll find a use for a few of these sweet monsters!).

It's very much a Perry Troll (who also skipped Leg Day, bigtime). Funny we don't give CMON any gak about it the same way we do Mantic, eh?

**JohnHwangDD**

Quite frankly, I'm not huge on the particular WOK? big body tiny legs aesthetic here.

**Nostromodamus**

Azazelx wrote:
Funny we don't give CMON any gak about it the same way we do Mantic, eh?

Same way nobody gives Mierce any gak about running half a dozen concurrent KS projects but as soon as Mantic starts one while fulfilling another everyone slags them off

**RiTides**

Trolls always have longer arms than legs - GW river trolls, etc. It's not always a good design choice but I think it works well for this model.

**nkelsch**

That guy is straight up a old-school GW stone troll. That is why we love them over the Mantic ones. Intentional Nostalgia over backup sculptors who can't follow concept art and lack anatomy lessons.

http://the-lost-and-the-damned.664610.n2.nabble.com/file/n6500117/93-36_copy.jpg

**JohnHwangDD**

Sure. Thing is, that troll is the exception, rather than the rule. The problem is that the the non-trolls also have troll-like anatomy.

**ced1106**

Azazelx wrote:
Funny we don't give CMON any gak about it the same way we do Mantic, eh?

I thought we gave Mantic sh*t because of their inconsistent sculpts, broken miniatures, tiles with thumbprints, running more KS projects than they could handle, $20 for an empty box, poorly written advanced rules (boardgamers only), dumping KS games on the OLGS, and stocky mildly hydroencephalic zombie survivors living in uncanny valley.

**nkelsch**

ced1106 wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
Funny we don't give CMON any gak about it the same way we do Mantic, eh?

I thought we gave Mantic sh*t because of their inconsistent sculpts, broken miniatures, tiles with thumbprints, running more KS projects than they could handle, $20 for an empty box, poorly written advanced rules (boardgamers only), dumping KS games on the OLGS, and stocky mildly hydroencephalic zombie survivors living in uncanny valley.

You forgot random and unexplained material changes too. I am pretty sure of what to expect from CMoN board game plastic so consistency in material is not a concern for me.

**Aeneades**

Troll is in and the Overseer is next -

**-Loki-**

SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS

**Azazelx**

Nostromodamus wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
Funny we don't give CMON any gak about it the same way we do Mantic, eh?

Same way nobody gives Mierce any gak about running half a dozen concurrent KS projects but as soon as Mantic starts one while fulfilling another everyone slags them off

I'd be doing just that if I wasn't staying out of the Maelstrom/Rob Lane KS threads out of respect for those who are enthusiastic about that particular form of gambling...

**Alpharius**

That Overseer - seriously awesome!

I do love the two Cthuluhu-esque models in this one...

And I can't wait to see what CMON's got in store for the final 48.

**JohnHwangDD**

Pledging is now accelerating to the close.

I wonder how high it will go before closing.

**RiTides**

Wow, I didn't like the concept art but that sculpt is awesome!

**Alpharius**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
Pledging is now accelerating to the close.

Spoiler:

[img]http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/coolminiornot/massive-darkness/dailypledges.png[/img

So, pretty much as usual?

Are you back in now?

I'm still saying $3 to $4M - unless they unlock a few more Minions as freebies...

**JohnHwangDD**

I might put a buck in for the updates and PM access, although I really don't "need" it.

**Alpharius**

It's worth at least a buck now - and maybe a lot more later!

The Overseer reminds me a bit of the Grell:

...with a touch more Lovecraft!

The tally so far:

With Optional Add-ons:

...and I'm sure a lot more to come.

**Azazelx**

nkelsch wrote:
That guy is straight up a old-school GW stone troll. That is why we love them over the Mantic ones. Intentional Nostalgia over backup sculptors who can't follow concept art and lack anatomy lessons.

http://the-lost-and-the-damned.664610.n2.nabble.com/file/n6500117/93-36_copy.jpg

Pretty sure I called it as a Perry troll. I'm pretty familiar with them, myself.

https://azazelx.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/citadel-stone-troll-with-axe-1992/

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ced1106 wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
Funny we don't give CMON any gak about it the same way we do Mantic, eh?

I thought we gave Mantic sh*t because of their inconsistent sculpts, broken miniatures, tiles with thumbprints, running more KS projects than they could handle, $20 for an empty box, poorly written advanced rules (boardgamers only), dumping KS games on the OLGS, and stocky mildly hydroencephalic zombie survivors living in uncanny valley.

That too. It's quite a list. You forgot a bunch of stuff as well, but that's for another thread.

**MLaw**

I thought they were trolling me with their troglodytes.. Now I see they were trolling me with their troll and their lizardodytes!

Out of curiousity.. how does a species without lips use a weapon that relies on lips?

**Mutter**

Overseer is funded - where is our next SG?

**Azazelx**

OK, just dropped my $300 into the ring. Hopefully they'll start to bother about updating backers of The Others again soon.

**cincydooley**

Azazelx wrote:
OK, just dropped my $300 into the ring. Hopefully they'll start to bother about updating backers of The Others again soon.

It's on the boat. Expected by end of Aug barring any customs delays.

**Alpharius**

Latest update dropped - playable Ogre hero!

$170K stretch goal though...

**Aeneades**

The stretch goal does include the hero and a new class (with pad) so I don't mind it too much in this instance.

**Alpharius**

In spite of what his name might suggest, Lil'Ned is big, very big (he's only little to other ogres). His size doesn't just mean he's extremely strong, but it also gives him amazing reach when swinging his sledgehammer. His melee attacks are able to target enemies standing one zone away from his own! And when those hits land, they land with a thud. His melee attacks always get an automatic hit, and his free Bonecrusher class skill is able to knock his targets to the ground in case he rolls a Bam.

Bonecrushers are designed after bouncers and brutish bodyguards. Their Class Sheet fits their name, as they are fully oriented toward Melee attacks! They have access to classic Skill Lines adding Attack dice and allowing re-rolls. They also have access to more specific Skill Lines aimed toward taunting Enemies (effectively drawing aggro to themselves) and stunning them in Melee Combat. This latter Skill is especially important, as it turns Bonecrushers into living battering rams very early in the game.

As their career progresses, Bonecrushers learn to trigger Melee Enchantments more often (thus stunning more and more Enemies), and enhance their damage potential. They also develop an interesting feature with the ability to lower their foes’ Defense pool (without the need to go into Shadow Mode), thus maxing their own offensive potential and negating Defense Enchantments their victims could trigger.

All in all, Bonecrushers are the violent offsprings of Pit Fighter Berserkers and Bloodmoon Nightrunners: they run into the fray like behemoths, smashing the weak and stunning the strong into submission.

And yes, Lil'Ned's Survivor ID card will be part of the Black Plague Crossover Set.

For the Darkness is Massive, and full of terrors!

**Mutter**

170k? O.o
It's almost like they WANT the campaign to slow down ...

**xevv**

Mutter wrote:
170k? O.o
It's almost like they WANT the campaign to slow down ...

Its just that they have a set amount of stuff they are willing to give you, they adjust based on how successful the campaign is.

If it was getting money dumped at it even faster it would be higher yet, if it was getting less they would be lower.

I dont like it either personally. But.. it does prevent them from running out of things to offer. The only real questionable thing at this point is whether or not the rats/lizards could have been SG's if it was doing really well, maybe. Or they just woulda pushed the SG price points even higher and they always woulda been addons *shrug*

Anyway, based on current SG gaps, Im guessing 3.1 3.3 3.5 would all be very possible next ones, Not sure how much past 3.5 Im expecting this to go, So hopefully some good stuff in the next 3. (and that it goes higher than that anyway!)

**Alpharius**

This campaign had its second best funding day yesterday, so it is still probably on track to end between $3.5M and $4M.

It all depends on those stretch goals and making the deal 'too good to resist NOW' vs. 'Pretty Good, but better at Retail'!

I think it is already too good to pass up now, but another Minion box included in the pledge?

Then it becomes too good to pass up for...most?!?