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Maybe people shouldn't beat the crap out of each other over a sport and then the analogy wouldn't be there to be had? It's ridiculous.

The miniatures look great, but I think my interest will depend on how the campaign rules turn out. They've always been the weak point of Specialist Games for me, with too much "rich get richer, poor get poorer".

http://wargameterrain.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/games-workshop-new-blood-bowl-fantasy.html

just a couple of pics :

Very nice.

I just wish Black Orcs started with Break Tackle.

I know what I`ll be getting myself for the New Years

This must be close. If they can go under £50 I'll buy it.

Chikout wrote:
This must be close. If they can go under £50 I'll buy it.

I think it's far more likely to be £95 like silver tower. Maybe even higher.

If you want to play blood bowl you could always just go outside and play american football... they only difference is that the crazy blood thirsty savages in blood bowl are green skinned.

 frozenwastes wrote:

Chikout wrote:
This must be close. If they can go under £50 I'll buy it.

I think it's far more likely to be £95 like silver tower. Maybe even higher.

Are you crazy? There are only 24 models in the box. There are no large monster sized models. The whole emphasis of the project has been to keep the cost of the base game down. The assassin game is £75 for the same number of models, but it has 5 big character models and more board sections. They could go for £60 but £50 would really give them a chance to go mass market.

Chikout wrote:

 frozenwastes wrote:

Chikout wrote:
This must be close. If they can go under £50 I'll buy it.

I think it's far more likely to be £95 like silver tower. Maybe even higher.

Are you crazy? There are only 24 models in the box. There are no large monster sized models. The whole emphasis of the project has been to keep the cost of the base game down. The assassin game is £75 for the same number of models, but it has 5 big character models and more board sections. They could go for £60 but £50 would really give them a chance to go mass market.

I'm not sure GW wants to go mass market. I think they want to get as much money as possible from their current customer base plus any nostalgia buyers. Going mass market would mean having someone else control distribution. When they launched the Battle for Vedros stuff, they used some independent sales people but the distribution and sales was all still firmly controlled by GW.

I'm still expecting the same pricing as silver tower.

BB looks to have at most two thirds of the plastic content Silver Tower has and less cardboard as well. I'd be surprised to see it at the same price.

I might hope that they'll price things based on contents or production costs, but GW doesn't necessarily work that way. I'd like to think they'd see the opportunity here for going with a lower price and getting it into wider distribution, but that's contrary to everything they do in terms of keeping control over how their products are sold.

I'd like to think it will be less than silver tower, but I'm not sure. Maybe it will be 75 or so.

So far, I'm loving the look of the new models. If the gameplay stays the same, it will only be the price tag that makes me change my mind on picking this up.

I hope they have a decent price as well. I hate the fact they do not release the price. they have a general idea of the cost.

I hope the teams released later are priced decently too!

 His Master's Voice wrote:
BB looks to have at most two thirds of the plastic content Silver Tower has and less cardboard as well. I'd be surprised to see it at the same price.

I'd be kinda surprised to see it priced less than Silver Tower.

Lady Atia has more pics HERE, plus Da Deff Skwad from Facebook:

Too bad we cant expand the back of the box. we might see the price in the bar code box.

The best part about Bloodbowl is that as its in a different universe, they can't shoehorn in sigmarines. Right?

The back of that box has a couple of things that stand out to me.

1) The line directly under the picture, which is the one most likely to be read, makes it clear that the BloodBowl box is a complete game. This attracts those people who may see the Games Workshop logo and suspect that they have to buy hundreds of £s in other material to play the game.

2) The next line says (I think) 'It can be expanded with the official...' Why would you need to write that for GW customers? They know there's going to be extra add ons, so this must be there to advertise to people who are unaware of the original game that this core box doesn't have to be the end of your fun.

3) The big sign saying 'From the makers of Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000'. Again, why would you state this if you are selling to GW customers? They already know this.

For me this shows that GW is after a new audience. One that may have heard of GW and Warhammer, but don't know much about it. People who don't walk into GW stores but will buy and play boardgames. With the new adverts on TV recently for GW products showing that GW have discovered what advertising is, I can see GW trying to get this into boardgame stores, Amazon, ToysRUs and all the regular places people buy games. The back of the box suggests to me there's a danger they may have learned something.

edit: Also double sided pitch and dugouts are cool, as are the player reference cards. But with the reference cards and no sign of a roster, who do you keep track of team development in a league? Curious.

On the left hand side it says 'Inside you will find' with a list of things, all of which a called 'Official' this and 'Official' that. Is this GW's latest effort to circumvent after-market suppliers?

 Henry wrote:


But with the reference cards and no sign of a roster, who do you keep track of team development in a league? Curious.

Not really curious, it will come with the League expansion. As it not part of the "new" base game.

 Henry wrote:
2) The next line says (I think) 'It can be expanded with the official...' Why would you need to write that for GW customers? They know there's going to be extra add ons, so this must be there to advertise to people who are unaware of the original game that this core box doesn't have to be the end of your fun.

3) The big sign saying 'From the makers of Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000'. Again, why would you state this if you are selling to GW customers? They already know this.

Not everyone who buys this will necessarily be GW customers, that's why.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Henry wrote:
2) The next line says (I think) 'It can be expanded with the official...' Why would you need to write that for GW customers? They know there's going to be extra add ons, so this must be there to advertise to people who are unaware of the original game that this core box doesn't have to be the end of your fun.

3) The big sign saying 'From the makers of Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000'. Again, why would you state this if you are selling to GW customers? They already know this.

Not everyone who buys this will necessarily be GW customers, that's why.

No kidding, plus even with info in the first post some thing still get miss thing like the league been a add on. So it never hurts to make thing as clear as possible.

There's only really 2 things that need confirming now and that's when is this coming out and how much will it cost. As BoW are stating that some retailers are in possession of copies and demoing it, surely that means a 2016 release not 2017.

I hope they're not changing the scale of the miniatures for this game as a way to perhaps edge out their competitors who make alternative miniatures for this game, as the Dark Elf team I am converting up at the moment will be badly out of scale if they do so...

From all the talk over on talkfanasyfootball, thaey are saying the game will be released in December, 2016.

They are also saying $75usd.

I've been playing Blood Bowl since first edition, I own over 2,000(yes. 2,000+figures) have a line of figures(the wild things), run a league thats in its24th year.

Yeah, I love blood bowl.

 bound for glory wrote:
From all the talk over on talkfanasyfootball, thaey are saying the game will be released in December, 2016.

They are also saying $75usd.

I've been playing Blood Bowl since first edition, I own over 2,000(yes. 2,000+figures) have a line of figures(the wild things), run a league thats in its24th year.

Yeah, I love blood bowl.

If this is true that would be £45. Exactly the price I was hoping for. They seem to be doing everything right to make this a hit. A perfect Christmas present.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I hope they're not changing the scale of the miniatures for this game as a way to perhaps edge out their competitors who make alternative miniatures for this game, as the Dark Elf team I am converting up at the moment will be badly out of scale if they do so...

To be perfectly honest the change in scale to make them larger actually brings them closer in line with many of the more popular ranges currently available (Notably the Willy and Pedro Miniature lines).

However in the end of the day the size doesn't really matter as there is no LOS or other rule that makes modeling for advantage or size important. As long as your team is in scale with itself then you are fine.

Joyboozer wrote:
The best part about Bloodbowl is that as its in a different universe, they can't shoehorn in sigmarines. Right?

Why even play, winning has no meaning, everything will be destroyed in the end!
I am interested in this unless GW put's some ridiculous price on it.

Chikout wrote:

 bound for glory wrote:
From all the talk over on talkfanasyfootball, thaey are saying the game will be released in December, 2016.

They are also saying $75usd.

I've been playing Blood Bowl since first edition, I own over 2,000(yes. 2,000+figures) have a line of figures(the wild things), run a league thats in its24th year.

Yeah, I love blood bowl.

If this is true that would be £45. Exactly the price I was hoping for. They seem to be doing everything right to make this a hit. A perfect Christmas present.

Yeah, in GW land $75 USD equals 45 GBP. Right now, 45 GBP is not even worth $60 USD. And they are even more insane on the exchange rate for oceania.
/exchange rate rant.

Joyboozer wrote:
The best part about Bloodbowl is that as its in a different universe, they can't shoehorn in sigmarines. Right?

Considering they still have the old 'jumpy' slann rather then the fat toads they are today, I'd say your good though I wouldn't mind seeing them make more teams if this does well enough.