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- The starter box (humans vs orks) is finished, and produced. No ETA on the release yet, as it's sales management that sets the dates, not FW/SG - The box will contain everything you need to start - the rules (core rules are unchanged, but there will be some expanded ones too in the booklet), markers, dice, a double sided pit and two plastic teams. The sprues are green/blue and you can start to play within a few minutes.
- Next teams in plastic will be Dwarfes, Skaven and Goblins. After this they will look how sales go to decide on future plastic teams, but the plan is to do future teams in resin.
- They also want to do a plastic Troll and Ogre clampack.
- Cheerleaders, Coaches are planned - Starplayers are in. Old and New ones. Maybe we will even get event only Starplayers.
- Special Play Cards are in too - and they are planning on doing event only ones for events and tournament goodie packs.
- No 3D pits atm - they experimented with it, but have found a better solution. Plan is to use battle mats for it, as we already have seen with the 40k and Khorne one from GW prime.
- Dark Elfs will be released sometimes next year in resin (yay!)
- Chaos Dwarfs *will* get done down the line, but not any time soon
- They will release rules for all star players and teams that ever existed, including the ones from the computer game
- The box was produced within 9 months - really fast, as usualy products of that scale have a 2 year prodution cycle
- There will be event only merchandise for Bloodbowl - t-shirt designs are done - "Keep an eye on Facebook for an announcement"
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
When did getting stuff that lets you lord it over plebs who didn't attend become such a thing rather than, you know, attending for the experience of it? Are people seriously so petty that offering exclusive things makes them more likely to go?
EDIT: And before someone jumps on me, I don't mean silly stuff like event-specific items, a t-shirt with the event name or a pin badge or that kind of "I was at this thing" tat, I mean what GW does where they make products like faction t-shirts and full-on miniatures and then arbitrarily limits their sale to events or even specific locations.
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"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
I can see the t-shirts now. They'll say "I attended a Blood Bowl tournament and all I got was this lousy t-shirt".
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
When did getting stuff that lets you lord it over plebs who didn't attend become such a thing rather than, you know, attending for the experience of it? Are people seriously so petty that offering exclusive things makes them more likely to go?
I think it depends. Making a special miniature for a standard profile works. For example, a friend gave me a even-only miniatures for Flint, a Guild Ball player for the Masons (he runs Alchemists, so he didn't want it, while I play Masons only). So, if it's a special version of, say, Morg'n Thorg to commemorate the first of a hopefully annual Warhammer World competition, that's not so bad.
Making up special characters for an event that are unique might be more problematic. I know of some NAF events that allows players to added event-only Star Players to their teams, and they're themed around the event. But that comes with the stipulation that these are third party miniatures - something GW would never allow.
That's still a huge problem, by the way, unless GW has talked about it? In the current climate, a lot of BB veterans might be left out in the cold with their teams from Rolljordan, Impact Miniatures, Willy Miniatures, etc.
When did getting stuff that lets you lord it over plebs who didn't attend become such a thing rather than, you know, attending for the experience of it? Are people seriously so petty that offering exclusive things makes them more likely to go?
EDIT: And before someone jumps on me, I don't mean silly stuff like event-specific items, a t-shirt with the event name or a pin badge or that kind of "I was at this thing" tat, I mean what GW does where they make products like faction t-shirts and full-on miniatures and then arbitrarily limits their sale to events or even specific locations.
I mean, exclusives have been the norm at pretty much every type of con for like, the last 15+ years. I think it's a little weird for game stuff to offer something that only a few people will have to be able to use in the game, but it's nothing new. Better to offer things like shirts and mugs as exclusives, and not actual game pieces/content. At the same time, it's great that there's something extra offered for people at the con, makes it a little more worthwhile.
Eh, I suppose my view on this is really just an extension of my dislike for fake-scarcity in general - I've never seen what value is added to something by virtue of me being able to have one when other people can't, it just seems so monumentally petty. Either it's a cool model/t-shirt/whatever and I want one, or it's not to my taste and I don't, someone else also being able to have one doesn't diminish my enjoyment of it.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
I have been co-running a Bloodbowl tourney for the past...geez 9 years and our Event Exclusive miniatures are a great thing that help us a heck of a lot.
We are the biggest tourney in South Australia and I think 2nd or 3rd over all in Aus and I would have to say the vast majority of our success is due to our MVP process.
Through an arcane manner of voting and performance individual players can get their chance to be sculpted. I have even been fortunate to get my Chaos Pact Dark Elf sculpted back in 2013
At any time I think we have a 33/33/33 split between people trying to win the tourney, win the MVP or just there for the enjoyment.
Here are a couple of the prettier examples (Go Pedro Ramos sculpts)
Spoiler:
For the year the event exclusive is provided as a gift to attendees anyone can take them as a Star Player but after that they can just be used as an alternate sculpt for the model, so fro the above examples, could be a Minotaur or Blackhoof, and the Elf can be used as whatever you like, ranging from Chaos Pact Marauder (alternate head) through to whatever flavour of Dark Elf you like.
First, it's not even remotely the same thing as what GW and FW have been doing, ie creating entirely new models with their own rules and then limiting their availability to physical event attendees only, or creating generic alternate sculpts in plastic and then only allowing them to be bought from specific locations.
Second, I'd ask if there's any reason why you restrict the availability of the resulting figure? I mean, if you were only giving it to the person who won the MvP prize, sure, that's a one-off reward, but if anyone who shows up to the event can get one why stop there?
Like I say, I just don't get why people see value in artificial scarcity, either you want it or you don't, whether someone else can also have it has no actual impact on you so why care? And apparently care so much that it actually increases attendence at events?
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
First - In the context of Bloodbowl there hasn't been any examples of GW or FW creating new profiles for players at any time (that I can recall) Sure this happens in 40k or whatever other branches but until this actually happens in Bloodbowl (as this is the specific context and thread we are talking about) I am quite happy to defend them on that front.
Second - Because it encourages people to attend the event. Having something available in, let's say, a General Release is great and means every one can get one to play at home, in a league or what have you. But you you want people to physically attend your event, and be able to interact with others who enjoy the game, then it is great to have a special sculpt or extra to commemorate that. This is in addition to the nebulous idea of "growing the community" where people who have played together at a tournament then become friends and play the game outside of the tournament situation. Getting that person to take the trip and attend an event is the start to a lot of doors opening. There is a far greater potential for return, both financially and for the community, if you can get a player to attend an event rather than just ordering over the internet. And I am perfectly happy for those people to have access to something for that.
From a business perspective it also means that there is a higher chance more people will attend the events, so they become successful and means a higher chance of them being run again and again, rather than what happened in the pat where there wasn't enough of a return on these events so they dwindled down to almost nothing, before actually becoming nothing.
You may have noticed my little flag is set to Australia, and that means it is usually not possible for me to even attend these events that we are discussing. But you will notice my butt is nice and calm and not even slightly hurt about this fact. (Cheaper GW prices down here would be nice but let's not get crazy now)
Back to my tourney, we make our resulting MVP models available at our events (and due to the fact we are still pretty small potatoes compared to an actual company we also make other deals like having Impact!Miniatures sell some as well) because as you said in the last part, some people care enough to attend because of it.
Under the expectation that this is an alternate model to an existing profile, what has got your panties in a bunch that you won't be able to get it?
If it is a case of "I have a right to be able to get any model I think looks cool" then I can only say is No, you don't. Any and all miniatures are a luxury and sometimes it costs you more to get one than someone else. That cost might be having to pay extra on ebay, or it might be having to pay for a flight.
Weigh up the cost/benefit and if it still works out in your favour then excellent!
If not, suck it up and break out the tools to build that bridge.
bound for glory wrote: I am very excited abouth the re re release`. I hope they update all of the teams. I know thay won't, but I hope.
I really hope they do re-release all or at least most of the old teams. Personally I really have no great interest in either the Human or Orc teams, but I'd love to update my old Lizardmen team (which was made up of rebased WFB plastics rather than the official BB metal figures) or put together the Ogre team I never got around to before it all went OOP.
News from Essen, Germany, where it looks like the stadium is being constructed ready to show-off the new season of Blood Bowl game at the Spiel Game Fair, opening tomorrow.
It's looking great so far, Jim, but where is Essen?
I'm pretty sure it's just west of Reikland, Bob. But that's not all, we'll have some more big news about the new game tomorrow...
- Jim & Bob
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Haven't watched the video yet, but the site is great. I'm starting to get really excited about this. I'd never really thought about Blood Bowl before, but they are doing a really nice job with the presentation that kinda makes me want to give it a shot!
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I missed the first BB. but there's no way in heck I'm going to miss this beauty! Splitting the box with a friend, Orcs for me!
"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill
Getting psyched for this new boxed set. BB is one of my most favorite games. Noticed the new blood bowl website also has a few downloads (blank roster sheets plus a decent intro to the rules).
