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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/25 16:44:30
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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The_Blackadder wrote: Camkierhi wrote:^^ What he said. You are mostly working from fan art anyways, so give yourself a little slack.
I am lucky, I have gone the Ork route, means it will look kinda right, but every mek for himself.
P.S. I am building a Mega Gargant, the thing destroyed at the end of Helsreach is a Great Gargant, smaller cousin of the Mega, about half the mass of one actually. I probably still need 2 to beat you in a straight fight mind you. Your build far exceeds mine though, I will be getting there in scale, but the level of detail you are going for is a little too close to insanity for my liking. I mean I am mad, no question, but your of the chart bud.
Love to see it. I'm toying with a 'Mega Gargant' myself but probably won't be starting on it for a couple of years.
Well if you go by any blueprint made for a mega gargant then I want to know how you will get precise sizes from the crayon drawings they use.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/29 11:34:27
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Theophony wrote:
Love to see it. I'm toying with a 'Mega Gargant' myself but probably won't be starting on it for a couple of years.
Well if you go by any blueprint made for a mega gargant then I want to know how you will get precise sizes from the crayon drawings they use.
Joazzz2 is my go to guy regarding Titans. His 3D work is outstanding and well planned. It was his Emperor Titan that gave me the impetus to begin my Imperator build. That and the unsung progenitor of the skull-like head/cockpit.
His Mega Gargant will figure heavily in any Ork Titan I may attempt.
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/31 10:28:05
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
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Ork Gargant? Use Your Titan, add more dakka and voila! :p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/31 10:40:12
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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As ever - you're all mad, but my god is it inspiring stuff!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/31 23:06:54
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Getting There:
What else can I say?
https://i.imgur.com/jbx20fT.jpg
This is a labor intensive project...........
https://i.imgur.com/WR4APDH.jpg
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/01 22:12:53
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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It's been said that the only reason that people go to Cockroach Races is to see a Cockroach crash.
By extension; the only reason people view my threads is to see me Frak up.
https://i.imgur.com/ZLZmcDD.jpg
Well sorry to disappoint but it ain't gonna happen this day. Today is the first time I have aligned and imaged my Imperator and the never ending Plasma Blaster project together......
https://i.imgur.com/6msMmTC.jpg
( Honest to the God Emperor )
https://i.imgur.com/pBXee9X.jpg
and it seems to be in the right ballpark scale-wise.
Omnissiah be Praised. Genuflect! Genuflect! Hail in Oates.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/01 22:20:24
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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If we came here to see you frak up then you’d not get many views... because you just turn out spectacular stuff. This is starting to really come together!
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/01 23:32:31
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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JohnnyHell wrote:If we came here to see you frak up then you’d not get many views... because you just turn out spectacular stuff. This is starting to really come together!
Yeah; well I'm just running out of sparkling quips to introduce updates.  and truth be known I wasn't at all sure this would a Goldilocks fit.
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/02 05:55:33
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Fixture of Dakka
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It's not big enough.
It's really looking great BA. It'll undoubtedly look sensational when all complete (doubly so if/when it gets a coat of paint)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/02 10:27:16
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Snrub wrote:It's not big enough.
It's really looking great BA. It'll undoubtedly look sensational when all complete (doubly so if/when it gets a coat of paint)
When my kids were little (5or so), I thought about making a titan costume for them to wear and have them stomp around on the table. Then I remembered that they were out of control most of the time and would actually stomp my opponents models and I’d get punched....so it never happened  .
The warmonger is looking great. Glad everything is lining up well when you put the gun in place. Although if it was just out of scale it could have been a carapace weapon  .
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/04 13:04:59
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Barpharanges
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My only regret is that I can only Exalt this thread one time.
Lookin' great! Keep up the excellent progress.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/04 19:38:04
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Liberated Grot Land Raida
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We're going to need a 'model's eye view' pic at some point to truly appreciate it's magnificence methinks.
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A Squeaky Waaagh!!
Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'
Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/04 20:59:51
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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Looking fairly spot on to me. As always, blown away by your dedication to detail.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/05 11:38:04
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Time to Take Stock:
I've reached a point where I need to economize on the number of components to duplicate and for the past week I've been thinking of a way to save work on making redundant items and I believe I have come up with a way.
https://i.imgur.com/ZeUtl3H.jpg
The suspender arm disc was labor intensive especially if I have to make one for each weapon variant so below is a removable Mount Disc Component that I will be making for each of the two weapon arms which will facilitate rapid exchange of weapon types with the exception of the CC claw which i am given to understand is not a usual Emperor Titan Weapon anyway.
https://i.imgur.com/lC2lwrG.jpg
I included a scale on the top image, even though it is only 2/3 of it's ultimate dimension, for the convenience of those who have requested a size reference.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/05 12:55:37
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Voracious Kroothound
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Every time I think this looks incredible, you post a photo with some other model to give a sense of scale and it looks even more amazing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/05 18:41:23
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Liberated Grot Land Raida
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Clever. Won't this cause paint to scrape off/ did you build in tolerance for bits that might get paint on them?
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A Squeaky Waaagh!!
Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'
Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 12:36:08
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Weekend Update:
I had hoped to be further along in the rear mechanisms by now but I ran into a bit of a snag when I realized the the rear section of the weapon expanded further than the surface armour surrounding the mount disk. Since my gun is wider overall than the Warlord weapon I have decided to not expand this section unless I see the overall appeal of the Plasma Blaster is compromised.
https://i.imgur.com/opWDHf4.jpg
Another modification is the rear mount must also be removable and be able to slip onto the mount disk assembly which should pose no problem but was something I had not anticipated.
https://i.imgur.com/xFNOLgE.jpg
Now that that is recognized I can proceed with the actual manufacture of the rear sections.
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/08 23:30:14
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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The_Blackadder wrote:I'm toying with a 'Mega Gargant' myself but probably won't be starting on it for a couple of years.
YEs!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/09 02:59:08
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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You have probably said already, but will you be using mechanical joints or magnetic?
I know it is big for magnets, but large neo magnets are very strong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/09 08:22:00
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Liberated Grot Land Raida
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Looking good!
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A Squeaky Waaagh!!
Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'
Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 08:53:47
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Fixture of Dakka
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Looking good BA.
Is there much left to do for the plasma gun?
And i'm sure you've said before, but what other weapons have you got planned for this behemoth?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/10 16:53:59
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Snrub wrote:Looking good BA.
Is there much left to do for the plasma gun?
And i'm sure you've said before, but what other weapons have you got planned for this behemoth?
Still quite a bit, the whole rear section in fact and all the detail.
Probably two Volcano cannon to round out the Primary weapons. They should be relatively easy compared to the Plasma cannon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/16 16:44:17
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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One Week Later:
It's been a busy week but I managed to fit in a bit of building. The biggest accomplishment is a second Arms Mount section for the other armament items.
https://i.imgur.com/9yj9h3H.jpg
It is a source of irritation to me that each of these disc mount appendages seem dedicated to a particular weapon so hopefully I can circumvent this need for redundancy by making a generic disc and adding a discrete weapons module pack for each weapon I produce. The Discs are really time consuming to make.
https://i.imgur.com/6MMTHmi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/axub5XT.jpg
So above we have the Plasma Blaster modular assembly that slips together as two pieces and subsequently in the image below the sections installed on the Plasma blaster body......
https://i.imgur.com/InJMOrY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/G4yHwBI.jpg
Next the Meta Snail module...........
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/16 17:40:11
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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The_Blackadder wrote:
Still quite a bit, the whole rear section in fact and all the detail.
Probably two Volcano cannon to round out the Primary weapons. They should be relatively easy compared to the Plasma cannon.
Honestly, I really can't tell what variant of an Emperor you're going for (there's only two, each with fixed weapon loadouts). But if If you're looking to make an actual Warmonger as the thread title has always suggested (and not the standard Imperator), or at least something close to it, you might consider its main guns - the right arm being the Doomstrike array of 8 support missiles and the left arm being the double-barreled big-honking-lasers Vengeance cannon. Some of the best photographs I've been able to find of the conversion kit GW released I've are
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/images/8/8a/Limited_Release_-_Epic_Imperial_Titan_Imperator_Kit.jpg
http://wh.reactor.cc/post/2861931
http://img0.reactor.cc/pics/post/Warhammer-40000-%D1%84%D1%8D%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%8B-Emperor-%28titan%29-Collegia-Titanica-3467008.jpeg
The middle link there also happens to show one of the only top down shots of the Imperator kit I've ever seen. And that last link would be from the cover of one of the old Epic magazines and one of the few completely unconverted Warmonger shots I can find.
I know you said at one point you didn't want to do a large ballistic cannon as an arm, so these two main guns might be something to consider, since the Doomstrike missiles are, well, missiles, and the Vengeance cannon is a two really big lasers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/16 18:15:50
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Calculating Commissar
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The most recent rules- the 40k Apocalypse datasheet for the Emperor-class, had the four available arm weapons as interchangeable options, which included matched pairs. All the more recent Titanrules have allowed varied loadoits, rather than specific patterns, so I think it is reasonable to create weapons for the model on that basis.
So that would be the Vengeance laser, Hellstorm cannon (multibarrelled, not sure if laser or conventional munitions), missile rack, and the big plasma gun. Blackadder is already making the big plasma weapon, which leaves the twin laser, multibarrelled gun, and missile rack as other options. The fist would be a cool addition, if not strictly following the original options.
Edit: the Hellstorm cannon is a 6-barrelled gatling-laser cannon, which is pretty awesome. There are no standard ballistic cannons as existing options.
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ChargerIIC wrote:If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/16 18:37:07
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Liberated Grot Land Raida
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Ingenious. how will it all stay together in the end: friction, magnets, or something else?
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A Squeaky Waaagh!!
Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'
Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/16 19:26:44
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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Haighus wrote:The most recent rules- the 40k Apocalypse datasheet for the Emperor-class, had the four available arm weapons as interchangeable options, which included matched pairs. All the more recent Titanrules have allowed varied loadoits, rather than specific patterns, so I think it is reasonable to create weapons for the model on that basis.
So that would be the Vengeance laser, Hellstorm cannon (multibarrelled, not sure if laser or conventional munitions), missile rack, and the big plasma gun. Blackadder is already making the big plasma weapon, which leaves the twin laser, multibarrelled gun, and missile rack as other options. The fist would be a cool addition, if not strictly following the original options.
Edit: the Hellstorm cannon is a 6-barrelled gatling-laser cannon, which is pretty awesome. There are no standard ballistic cannons as existing options.
I always had the impression that the Hellstorm fired (very large) explosive shells. I'll admit I always thought it was a bit goofy because of that, and that several lasers on the order of a shadowsword's volcano cannon would make way more sense. Still, goofy never stopped some of the background/rules folks at GW before, so as I said, when the model first came out I got the impression that it was explosive shells, and that's what stuck with me through the decades.
Also, the people writing some of those 40k Apocalypse datasheets sometimes seemed to be making things up as they went, so personally I'd ignore their ideas of variable loadouts myself, and look more towards the actual models produced. But that's just me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/16 20:19:00
Subject: Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Bob Lorgar wrote: Haighus wrote:The most recent rules- the 40k Apocalypse datasheet for the Emperor-class, had the four available arm weapons as interchangeable options, which included matched pairs. All the more recent Titanrules have allowed varied loadoits, rather than specific patterns, so I think it is reasonable to create weapons for the model on that basis.
So that would be the Vengeance laser, Hellstorm cannon (multibarrelled, not sure if laser or conventional munitions), missile rack, and the big plasma gun. Blackadder is already making the big plasma weapon, which leaves the twin laser, multibarrelled gun, and missile rack as other options. The fist would be a cool addition, if not strictly following the original options.
Edit: the Hellstorm cannon is a 6-barrelled gatling-laser cannon, which is pretty awesome. There are no standard ballistic cannons as existing options.
I always had the impression that the Hellstorm fired (very large) explosive shells. I'll admit I always thought it was a bit goofy because of that, and that several lasers on the order of a shadowsword's volcano cannon would make way more sense. Still, goofy never stopped some of the background/rules folks at GW before, so as I said, when the model first came out I got the impression that it was explosive shells, and that's what stuck with me through the decades.
Also, the people writing some of those 40k Apocalypse datasheets sometimes seemed to be making things up as they went, so personally I'd ignore their ideas of variable loadouts myself, and look more towards the actual models produced. But that's just me.
I looked it up on Lexicanum, and it specifically stated it was a directed energy weapon. I was a bit surprised too!
What you say is true, but then the Apocalypse datasheet is the most up-to-date source we currently have (until FW releases a new Emperor for Titanicus!). Every other existing Titan has variable loadouts to boot. Also, because Blackadder is designing the arms to be interchangeable and modular, he can mix and match as he desires for a particular game etc. Therefore, having the loadouts for either variant would make sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/16 23:34:00
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
The Great Satan (East Coast)
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Bob Lorgar wrote:
Honestly, I really can't tell what variant of an Emperor you're going for (there's only two, each with fixed weapon loadouts).
Yeah I really ought to change the title. When I began this thread all options were open and I really wanted a compliment to my Lucius Warlord but I fell in love with the Joazzz2 3D Imperator and the rest is history.
I probably will build just the two Volcano Cannons and the press on with the completion of the model. Then if time and patience allow I'll make some other weapon.
Thanks for all the replies!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/09/17 01:06:55
Subject: Re:Blackadder Attempts to build an Imperial Warmonger Titan
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Fixture of Dakka
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Re: the Hellstorm cannon. It was also portrayed as a multi barrelled laser weapon in DoW C.
Skip ahead to ~6:20
There's also a point in the game where you get to fire it, but I couldn't find a video of it.
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