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2016/04/30 04:31:07
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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I mean, I thought Tyranids were supposed to be the army for Monstrous Creatures.
Epic fail.
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2016/04/30 04:50:27
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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They are. Wraithknights are Gargantuan Creatures. Not Monstrous.
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2016/04/30 04:53:08
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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They also make a mockery of Nids Gargantuans. Apparently my Barbed Heirodule is twice as good as a Wraithknight...
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2016/04/30 05:20:23
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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We all know wraithknights are unbalanced and tyranid MC are weaker than a guardman. Do we really need another one of these threads?
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2016/04/30 05:23:27
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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 Happyjew wrote:They are. Wraithknights are Gargantuan Creatures. Not Monstrous.
Haha...what a joke! My friend has old school wraith knight models, and they are barely bigger than a dreadnought...might even be smaller.
Gargantuan, indeed. 
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2016/04/30 05:25:02
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Old school wraithknight models? I'm pretty sure they dont exist. post picture?
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2016/04/30 05:25:51
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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 jasper76 wrote: Happyjew wrote:They are. Wraithknights are Gargantuan Creatures. Not Monstrous.
Haha...what a joke! My friend has old school wraith knight models, and they are barely bigger than a dreadnought...might even be smaller.
Gargantuan, indeed.
those are proably epic scale....
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2016/04/30 05:25:58
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Probably means Wraithlords. Also better than almost all Nid MCs.
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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2016/04/30 05:26:03
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wraithknights, not wraithlords.
Near as I can tell, they made eldar constructs as monstrous creatures because they are powered by souls, need no fuel, and can actually feel in a tactile sense as opposed to being linked to sensors.
The wraithknight should be 100 points more, the wraithlord is fine though. Tyranid monsters' point values are all over the place though...
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2016/04/30 05:26:20
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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 Xerics wrote:Old school wraithknight models? I'm pretty sure they dont exist. post picture?
Don't have a picture. They're metal models...they're legit wraithknigt models.
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BrianDavion wrote: jasper76 wrote: Happyjew wrote:They are. Wraithknights are Gargantuan Creatures. Not Monstrous.
Haha...what a joke! My friend has old school wraith knight models, and they are barely bigger than a dreadnought...might even be smaller.
Gargantuan, indeed.
those are proably epic scale....
Nope. They are maybe a little bigger than Terminators, on Terminator bases...they are 100% Wraith knights.
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2016/04/30 05:27:54
Subject: Re:Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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as for 'nids yeah they could use a re-work. and a decent GC of their own
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2016/04/30 05:28:12
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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There aren't any metal wraithknights... They don't exist. There are metal wraithlords and metal wraithguard. There are metal phantom titans for Epic 40K,
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2016/04/30 05:31:50
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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If you say so. I guess the dude could be using some model I don't know about, sweetly converted to be kitted out exactly like a wraith knight.
Anywho...the rules are the problem more then the size. Seriously, why did they even come out with Tyranids if the MC action is elsewhere?
Tyranids should have better MCs and GCs than anyone....they are supposed to be the "Monster Army".
Epic fail.
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2016/04/30 05:39:02
Subject: Re:Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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"My model is a MC/GMC because it is "PILOTED" by a soul/person/alien/shenanigan."
A tyranid model should be MC/GMC because it is in fact a living organism. But we can't let tau/eldar not have cheese 
Anyway. I think Tau should give up all MC/GMC rules and go to walker/SHW, same for Eldar. It should only be considered a MC/GMC if it is a living breathing organism (or maybe not breathing, whatever demons do) If it is wearing a powered suit, it should be a walker not a creature. Sorry tau/Eldar
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2016/04/30 05:39:33
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Wraithknight didnt come out till 6th edition. Tyranids have been around far longer than that. They were the original MC army.
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2016/04/30 05:40:13
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ohh and before someone jumps to the strawman, WHAT ABOUT SPACE MARINES! use common sense, we are talking about giant robots that are the size of dreadnoughts or bigger.
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2016/04/30 05:45:24
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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There where the Bight Stallion and the Towering Destroyer. Not exactly Wraithknights. They where for Epic. Don`t know, if Armourcast had made some.
And yes, the whole tyranidstuff is terrible since 5th edition.  They need a complete re-work.
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2016/04/30 05:46:44
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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I will agree with anyone who says a Wraithknight should be a walker.
Look at it. It's a walker. Same goes for whatever that Tau walker posing as an MC is.
Just because Monstrous Creatures exist as a category, doesn't mean walkers should be unnaturally placed in the category, when there is a perfectly good Walker category to fill their need. If you want a monster, make a monster model, not a walker.
Especially considering gak like Elder and Tau don't need a stupid"walker-turned- MC" to compete.
So.dumb.
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2016/04/30 07:48:39
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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jasper76 wrote:I will agree with anyone who says a Wraithknight should be a walker.
Look at it. It's a walker. Same goes for whatever that Tau walker posing as an MC is.
Just because Monstrous Creatures exist as a category, doesn't mean walkers should be unnaturally placed in the category, when there is a perfectly good Walker category to fill their need. If you want a monster, make a monster model, not a walker.
Especially considering gak like Elder and Tau don't need a stupid"walker-turned- MC" to compete.
So.dumb.
I post this every time someone says the wraithknight should be a walker. The wraithknight is a hybrid. There is a semi pilot who helps the souls bound in the wraithbone be more agile. A wraithknight is simply a larger wraithlord. It can operate without the person inside it but it would just be slower.
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2016/04/30 07:52:31
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Google epic phantom titan or epic warlock titan.
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2016/04/30 08:01:08
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I like how nobody even mentions the dreadknight being a MC. I guess nobody is allowed to hate on the army that polls say everyone has at least 1 model of.
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2016/04/30 08:51:26
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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There's plenty of hate for the Dreadknight, but it's on the bottom end of the scale since it has to get close enough to either hit you with its flamer or punch you in the face while the other MC's and GMC's that every is complaining about can camp on the other side of the board and wreck your face with impunity.
Not to mentiont hat GK are generally mid-pack at best and require allies (or to be used as allies) to be effective whereas the riptide.stormsurge/wraithknight are all in strong armies that are crushing face and need some (or a lot of) toning down.
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2016/04/30 09:10:38
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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A little bigger than terminators? Metal models? That's wraithguard.
Epic.fail.so.dumb.epic.fail.
Xerics wrote:I like how nobody even mentions the dreadknight being a MC. I guess nobody is allowed to hate on the army that polls say everyone has at least 1 model of.
Where are you getting this from? People complain about it all the time. Usually followed by "you could just shoot the guy piloting it!"
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2016/04/30 13:53:28
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Lethal Lhamean
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Is there a point to this thread or is it just more random hate to feel like part of the in crowd?
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2016/04/30 14:00:22
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Xerics wrote: jasper76 wrote:I will agree with anyone who says a Wraithknight should be a walker.
Look at it. It's a walker. Same goes for whatever that Tau walker posing as an MC is.
Just because Monstrous Creatures exist as a category, doesn't mean walkers should be unnaturally placed in the category, when there is a perfectly good Walker category to fill their need. If you want a monster, make a monster model, not a walker.
Especially considering gak like Elder and Tau don't need a stupid"walker-turned- MC" to compete.
So.dumb.
I post this every time someone says the wraithknight should be a walker. The wraithknight is a hybrid. There is a semi pilot who helps the souls bound in the wraithbone be more agile. A wraithknight is simply a larger wraithlord. It can operate without the person inside it but it would just be slower.
Oh you mean how a Dreadnought is Piloted by a SM to help the Machine Spirits operate the machine. Gotcha.
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2016/04/30 14:01:31
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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jasper76 wrote: Xerics wrote:Old school wraithknight models? I'm pretty sure they dont exist. post picture?
Don't have a picture. They're metal models...they're legit wraithknigt models.
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BrianDavion wrote: jasper76 wrote: Happyjew wrote:They are. Wraithknights are Gargantuan Creatures. Not Monstrous.
Haha...what a joke! My friend has old school wraith knight models, and they are barely bigger than a dreadnought...might even be smaller.
Gargantuan, indeed.
those are proably epic scale....
Nope. They are maybe a little bigger than Terminators, on Terminator bases...they are 100% Wraith knights.
I'm pretty sure Wraithknights are a new unit type spawned by GW, and did not exist in metal. Automatically Appended Next Post:  SickSix wrote: Xerics wrote: jasper76 wrote:I will agree with anyone who says a Wraithknight should be a walker.
Look at it. It's a walker. Same goes for whatever that Tau walker posing as an MC is.
Just because Monstrous Creatures exist as a category, doesn't mean walkers should be unnaturally placed in the category, when there is a perfectly good Walker category to fill their need. If you want a monster, make a monster model, not a walker.
Especially considering gak like Elder and Tau don't need a stupid"walker-turned- MC" to compete.
So.dumb.
I post this every time someone says the wraithknight should be a walker. The wraithknight is a hybrid. There is a semi pilot who helps the souls bound in the wraithbone be more agile. A wraithknight is simply a larger wraithlord. It can operate without the person inside it but it would just be slower.
Oh you mean how a Dreadnought is Piloted by a SM to help the Machine Spirits operate the machine. Gotcha.
I'm sure the Dreadnought will not work at all without the SM interred within it.
If it can, then that would be contradictory to the IoM's fear of autonomous AI.
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2016/04/30 14:12:16
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Just because Tyranids are the monstrous creature army doesn't mean that other armies cannot have monstrous creatures.
Like eldar have two monstrous creatures and one gargantuan monstrous creature. Tyranids have something like 15 monstrous creatures, and a few gargantuan monstrous creatures. Tyranids are pretty clearly still the army of monstrous creatures no other army comes close to that number.
You might just have to come to terms with the fact that the term monstrous creature has changed over the course of this games development. The rules are an abstraction, and plenty of it doesn't make 100% logical sense.
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2016/04/30 14:15:46
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
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Why does having someone in it matter?
MC gives rules like Smash and an armor save, none of which feels very relevant to how it is piloted.
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2016/04/30 14:25:59
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Xerics wrote:Wraithknight didnt come out till 6th edition. Tyranids have been around far longer than that. They were the original MC army.
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:I'm pretty sure Wraithknights are a new unit type spawned by GW, and did not exist in metal.
There are metal Epic scale Eldar Knights.... http://www.solegends.com/citcat911/c2131epiceldarknights-h.htm And there's Armourcast 40k scale Eldar Knights that predate 6th edition by a couple of decades. I believe they were only ever resin though. http://www.coolminiornot.com/350481
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2016/04/30 14:29:06
Subject: Wraithknights are a mockery of Tyranids
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Oh you mean Eldar knights.
Yeah, I suppose the wraithknight could be a renamed Eldar knight.
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