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 Kirasu wrote:
Sounds like another GW board game which people will open up and just throw away the rules.

im just keeping some (the beastmen, the ogron, sorcrerer)

 Necros wrote:
I'm not paying extra to use models I already own. If that's their plan, I'll be skipping WHQ. Now it's back to wait & see mode for me...

Don't you pay to use models you already own every time a new codex or rule book comes out?

Yeah I worded that wrong, I meant like if they're gonna make us pay to add a new skill or whatever in an app. Just seems like a real dumb idea to me

 Necros wrote:
I'm not paying extra to use models I already own. If that's their plan, I'll be skipping WHQ. Now it's back to wait & see mode for me...

I have never understood why anyone would do anything except wait and see. War of sigmar just confirmed that this is a core game. There is no reason whatsoever to pre order the game unless you are sold on the models. Go to a store a try a demo, or read some of the reviews that will appear online soon enough. Radiohead are my favourite band ever. It I still read a few reviews and listened to some of the new songs on YouTube before I put down the money for the album.

If the hero skills etc. are limited to the app exclusively then I'll just wait until they're leaked online. I don't have a smartphone, or a tablet, and my friends won't care if I have the rules written down on a piece of paper.

It'd be pretty stupd of GW to make you pay for individual skills, and I don't think that will be the case, but we'll have to wait and see.

Pretty much a certain buy for me - just for the models

Maybe the game will be good as well which would be a bonus!

Perhaps they are trying to sell the skills etc it like premium abilities / DLC content in online games?

Ah, only on the internet can rampart speculation and furious paranoia spark up so quickly.

There's definitely cause for concern but I'm not sure this will be as big a deal-breaker as everyone seems to think.

If worse comes to worse then we can always make a thread to share the rules and upgrades, we can title it "Sir Poorpenny's quest questions".

Let them try it out and see how much of a success it is. If its a massive failure, then it'll go away soon enough. If its a success, then fair play to them for identifying another cash sponge.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't have a problem with electronic expansions. I do have a problem with the concept of buying individual skills and treasure items.

I'm in a similar boat, but as a bit conjecture here, I'm just trying to think of a situation that makes sense to sell additional skills.

Maybe this whole skill purchase thing is something like the core box skills only go up to whatever level the built in storyline is aimed at (I'd imagine level 5 or 6 with 9 missions?) and the purchase skills allow you to go to a higher level with more advanced skills and spell options. Like the old D&D manual that took your characters to higher levels.

New characters might come in basic format that includes the same level range as the core ones, with advanced packs for those; or a combined pack with all the level options. This would give people that only want to do the boxed campaign a chance to buy cheaper versions of the characters and those that want to do more advanced campaigns to pick up more advanced options for their character.

This level cap would also limit the sorts of treasure and monsters that they need to deal with in the core box, rather than trying to shoehorn in everything for everyone.

Chikout wrote:

 Necros wrote:
I'm not paying extra to use models I already own. If that's their plan, I'll be skipping WHQ. Now it's back to wait & see mode for me...

I have never understood why anyone would do anything except wait and see. War of sigmar just confirmed that this is a core game. There is no reason whatsoever to pre order the game unless you are sold on the models. Go to a store a try a demo, or read some of the reviews that will appear online soon enough. Radiohead are my favourite band ever. It I still read a few reviews and listened to some of the new songs on YouTube before I put down the money for the album.

I didn't, I preordered the special edition one straight away! Luckily I really like the album haha.

It is possible that the "in-app store" refers to a method that allows you to record and use money earned in the game. You can punch in "my hero earned fifty currency on this adventure" and "they spend twenty on a flashy hat" without having to write up a character sheet. This would further the use of the app as the one stop place for all your character needs.

If the app requires actual money every time I feel like making equipment swaps, I will just stick to pen and paper.

Edited by Manchu

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 zfreie wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Couldn't I just say that my Dwyvyn Fyrslyr has the skill, and write it down myself?

Sure could, pretty sure lots of people do this with lots of games....

~Edit~ namely 90% of D&D characters ever made lol

So, again, why am I having to pay for it through an app?

Because if you didn't you'd be an ebil piwate who is STEALING from poor defenseless GW. Yes, that's ridiculous, welcome to modern IP law and the inexplicable legions of people willing to champion it and the corporations who abuse it.

 Necros wrote:
I'm not paying extra to use models I already own with little mini purchases in an app. If that's their plan, I'll be skipping WHQ. Now it's back to wait & see mode for me...

I can understand the push back on this idea. However... if what we end up with is a quality game that gets played over and again in our group, I am kinda okay with it. Not going to begrudge GW some monies if they are providing my entertainment.

The two caveats to this are a) if the game is just bad, that is obviously a no go and b) if they try to push things too far, like the old horse-for-Oblivion thing. That would be bad. Very bad.

But, if it is a good game, the downloads actually add to it, they do not come too fast, and we are playing consistently... GW could get a few quid per month out of me for this.

 the Signless wrote:
It is possible that the "in-app store" refers to a method that allows you to record and use money earned in the game. You can punch in "my hero earned fifty currency on this adventure" and "they spend twenty on a flashy hat" without having to write up a character sheet. This would further the use of the app as the one stop place for all your character needs.

That crossed my mind as well, and is not a terrible way of making the app useful in-game.

 the Signless wrote:
If the app requires actual money every time I feel like making equipment swaps, I will just stick to pen and paper.

Good to see some people here can comprehend my consternation.

Yeah, who wants a nickle and dime app to play your board game. That's silly.

Not that GW have never done stupid things, but I think they're not doing that.

Chikout wrote:


I have never understood why anyone would do anything except wait and see. War of sigmar just confirmed that this is a core game. There is no reason whatsoever to pre order the game unless you are sold on the models. Go to a store a try a demo, or read some of the reviews that will appear online soon enough. Radiohead are my favourite band ever. It I still read a few reviews and listened to some of the new songs on YouTube before I put down the money for the album.

Naw, videogame industry, Kickstart kickers and readers everywhere completely disagree with you. And I don't think I'd have an issue buying a Radiohead album sight unseen. Companies- especially small companies, actually need their fans to pre-order things- it helps pay the final costs of production. Kickstarter has only made that more true.


I have issue with reviewers- especially for GW games. It seems that very few reviewers will give the game a fair shake- either they'll praise it up and down because they love GW, or they'll tear it up and down because they hate GW. There is way too little middle ground for someone like most of us who thinks that GW sometimes does good stuff and sometimes does poor stuff.

But I'm not writing reviews, either, so I'm not part of the solution.

i'm going to be a bit bummed if the only way I can expand my treasure options is digitally. I like having the physical cards to go with my games!

Now if what you guys are thinking, that the app could actually act as the town portion of the game, letting me unlock stuff with gold I found in my adventures, that would be pretty cool.

I think I can withhold judgement until next weekend, assuming the app is released alongside the actual game.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
just because its (so far) meant to be digital only doesn't mean stuff has to be free, would you expect a new spacewolves codex which was mainly a copy paste of the old one with a few new units and the odd stat change to be free? I certainly wouldn't

But I would expect that if I bought that Codex, it would be complete, and that I wouldn't need to purchase rules/weapons/relics/psychic powers/units once I bought the Codex.

This is a brilliant idea! No more codices. You go on their army builder app, make your army list by adding units and options to your cart list, enter you billing info and voila! You get the rules and a free shopping list of the model's you'll need to buy. They could even send you a link to their webstore with all the stuff automatically added to your cart! Now that's what I call a one-click bundle! DERP!

Tiny piece of information X eye bulging paranoia = GW IS THE DEVIL.

It's all so much What-If-ery at the minute. Wait for some concrete info before losing your minds.



Personally I will not buy in-app/in-game purchases, and only bother with DLC for games if it proves to be a fair deal, providing a significant amount of extra game time or replay value.

Still really wondering how WHQ this will be, and how "New game called WHQ" this will be.

Actually, could be good either way. But I really want to know.

Price:

With the success of Privateer Press' WarRoom app, I wouldnt doubt it GW tried it in some fashion. I would pay that premium for that kind of app sales model. If it included the ability to track progress in it as well.

Price as expected then. They are still shy of breaking the hundred.

What happens if you read the Adventure book before you're instructed?

 Necros wrote:
What happens if you read the Adventure book before you're instructed?

All the models turn into gremlins.

 Necros wrote:
What happens if you read the Adventure book before you're instructed?

Eternal damnation in the hottest/coldest/non-existingest [delete whichever does not apply to your religion(s)] depths of Hell.

 Necros wrote:
What happens if you read the Adventure book before you're instructed?

It would be bad… Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light. Total protonic reversal.

 Necros wrote:
What happens if you read the Adventure book before you're instructed?

kirby calls you and say "7 dayyssssss"

The app description reads as follows in my eyes:

A paid for app that has an interactive roster which includes all the treasure, skills and hero cards of the original game. Use this to track your character's progress.

IAP of new hero cards, new skills and new treasure to broaden your game content.

Sounds great!

So can anyone make out any of the text on that page? Because I certainly can't.