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Female dwarfs are old news for GW. Queen Helga



Maybe they could come back with a cheesecake version for 2016. Grudge of Thong a whole campaign suppliment.

Anyway. I am loving everything for WHQ so far... except the floor tiles. Not sure the blue and gold swirls do it for me. They are no doubt very tzeentchy but are the walls and ceilings the same? What happened to good ol' flagstones.

Here's a link for the masters of DLC - Disney:

Disney

Would GW give us extra content at $14 a pop?

HeroQuest had female minis in its barbarian and elf Quest Packs, though they were really hard to come by.

And that came out in 1989! We've regressed!

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Plus you know, Stormcast Eternals can also be women. Don't need boob-plates to show that they are a lady.

I'd still expect them to use face plates that don't resemble an angry dude.

Rumour of an Alef faction for July.

 ShaneTB wrote:
Rumour of an Alef faction for July.

Whose rumor?

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Plus you know, Stormcast Eternals can also be women. Don't need boob-plates to show that they are a lady.

I'd still expect them to use face plates that don't resemble an angry dude.

Nah. The masks aren't specifically male and female either. Very much like the Immortals from 300.




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 ShaneTB wrote:
Rumour of an Alef faction for July.

I'm hoping this will be the Realm of Ulgu aelfs.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Nah. The masks aren't specifically male and female either.

Gotta say, androgynous is the last word I'd use to describe the Eternals mask, but if it works for other people...

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Nah. The masks aren't specifically male and female either.

Gotta say, androgynous is the last word I'd use to describe the Eternals mask, but if it works for other people...

At the end of the day, the models are just representations that evoke our imagination. While I totally buy in that a mythically reborn eternal female super-soldier doesn't need boob plates and may not have a 36-24-36 figure while armored, the Stormcast models unequivocally make me think "male mythical super-soldier". Sure, it may be my preconceived notion that female soldiers have at least slightly different proportions than male ones, but that's kind of ingrained into looking at men and women for my entire life and kinda hard to change

In the same way, I agree about the heads -- they don't look androgynous at all, in the way a dark eldar head does -- the squared jaw, cheekbones, and just general shape of every Stormcast head makes me think, "human male".

 Kanluwen wrote:

 ShaneTB wrote:
Rumour of an Alef faction for July.

Whose rumor?

Heard it on the live Warhammer Weekly chat on YouTube today.


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As for the Stormcast heads, aren't they all cast in the image of Sigmar? So yes, regardless of sex, they'd be adorned with a cut of Sigmar's jib as a helm upon being forged.

The point is that a masculine helmet doesn't mean that the warrior is male (or even that the helmet is a man's face - the only difference in this case is that it's supposed to be Sigmar himself). Same as if a knight wears a helm with the aspect of a lion and it does not mean they are actually lion-faced underneath. Or if a man wore a helmet that depicted the face of a goddess (which the Stormcast helmets could easily be without changing design). What, should lady Sigmarines start putting eyeshadow and lipgloss on their scary war masks?

What I'm looking forward to from this is just some nice new daemons, Tzeentch especially. The Gaunt Summoner is great, so more would be appreciated.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 ShaneTB wrote:
Rumour of an Alef faction for July.

I'm hoping this will be the Realm of Ulgu aelfs.

Shadowkin in July would be amaaaaazzziiing.

Cause it'd be my birthday present from GW.

pities2004 wrote:Why don't they have female models as well?

squall018 wrote:

 pities2004 wrote:
Why don't they have female models as well?

One of the elves is female so...

And who's to say what any of the demons are.

Not this gender agenda again From what I can see there's the Mistweaver and the Summoner is undefined along with a number of the monsters; the gender issue as far as I can tell was raised and discussed extensively in the thread building up to the launch of AOS and probably in a good few other threads as well...

 Stormonu wrote:
Also, people seem to forget that the original Warhammer Quest had all kinds of "microtransactions" way back when, with the individual figures you could buy, treasure packs and whatnot. To think they won't embrace that sort of economy in this day and age is ludicrious for anyone whose observed their business practices for any time now.

It had expansions. It did not have "microtransactions". There's a difference between buying a pack of 40 treasure cards and buying an individual skill on an app.

In what way?

If there's a bundle of 40 that are then also sold separately the only difference is the option to buy individual ones if you want

Somehow this is a bad thing apparently?

Vorian wrote:
In what way?

If there's a bundle of 40 that are then also sold separately the only difference is the option to buy individual ones if you want

Somehow this is a bad thing apparently?

Exactly this. However, the difference between an extra option and exploitative microtransactions comes down to price. $10 for a pack of 40 cards, with the option to instead buy individual cards at $0.50 and its great. $50 for a pack of 40 cards with the option to buy individually at $2.00 and its something completely different..

Looking at the Hero miniatures the only 2 that really grab me are the barbarian and warrior priest. What's interesting about that those two are by far the most 'old school' in terms of their appearance. They could quite easily come from the last edition of WFB wheras the others are more in tune with the modern AOS aesthetic.

I think that's part of the reason AOS had failed to grab me. The look of the new miniatures just leaves me cold. They all just look a little to 'busy', like some started designing them but just didn't know when to stop.

If they're too expensive, ignore them. Simple. You lose nothing by an option you don't want to pay for, while potentially others will want it.

I don't see how people are trying to spin it as something morally wrong. It's a commercial offering. Either it'll be to individual tastes or not, but the additional material is at worst meaningless to you and at best something that's good

I sure do hope they come out with real world, paper versions of the app expansions, though. I don't mind app expansions, but they ain't great. What if my mobile device breaks? I lose it and don't bother to buy another? I switch platforms and can't figure out how to transfer (yea, I'm old).

Plus you're supposed to roll dice and "spend" them by putting them on skills. What, do I gotta lay down my ipad and put dice on it now?! (OK, I get that it comes with a dice roller and dice allocator... But c'mon, that's lame!)

I want good old fashioned decks of cards and hero sheets.

Hm. I'm thinking about putting Black Carapace interface ports on various parts of exposed body on the acolytes and using them as possessed- Librarians with null collars.. I think they are too big for cultists..

I still have that Queen Helga model!

If you want to substitute female characters, a witch elf would be a pretty close fit to that assassin. You would probably have to go to a 3rd party for a female barbarian, dwarf etc.

 LuciusAR wrote:
Looking at the Hero miniatures the only 2 that really grab me are the barbarian and warrior priest. What's interesting about that those two are by far the most 'old school' in terms of their appearance. They could quite easily come from the last edition of WFB wheras the others are more in tune with the modern AOS aesthetic.

I think that's part of the reason AOS had failed to grab me. The look of the new miniatures just leaves me cold. They all just look a little to 'busy', like some started designing them but just didn't know when to stop.

I don't really agree, the assasin is pretty much a male witch elves, and the elven wizard would also fit right in in the old world imoé

I'm ready for some Aelfs. I like what I read from the Grand Alliance: Order book.

 Nova_Impero wrote:
I'm ready for some Aelfs. I like what I read from the Grand Alliance: Order book.

Just so we're clear, the Aelves we'll be seeing most likely(the Shadowkin I keep mentioning)?

They aren't what we have seen information about in the Grand Alliance: Order book. It is Malerion and his followers--of which the Mistweaver Saih and the Tenebrael(Tenebrae is Latin for "Shadows" or "Darkness") Shard seem to be members.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Nova_Impero wrote:
I'm ready for some Aelfs. I like what I read from the Grand Alliance: Order book.

Just so we're clear, the Aelves we'll be seeing most likely(the Shadowkin I keep mentioning)?

They aren't what we have seen information about in the Grand Alliance: Order book. It is Malerion and his followers--of which the Mistweaver Saih and the Tenebrael(Tenebrae is Latin for "Shadows" or "Darkness") Shard seem to be members.

I didn't know that, but that sounds cool too.

There's small bits and bobs about them out there. One of the Fyreslayer lodges has regular dealings with them, serving as the muscle to their guerilla tactics.

Any suggestions on where I can find this information? I don't have the Fyreslayers book.

Actually more interested in the Barbarian guy.
Maybe some new marauders will appear?
Would not mind at all the chance to do a tribe.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
Also, people seem to forget that the original Warhammer Quest had all kinds of "microtransactions" way back when, with the individual figures you could buy, treasure packs and whatnot. To think they won't embrace that sort of economy in this day and age is ludicrious for anyone whose observed their business practices for any time now.

It had expansions. It did not have "microtransactions". There's a difference between buying a pack of 40 treasure cards and buying an individual skill on an app.

The old game had individual minis that you could buy (like "Human Gladiator"), and it was not until recently that I learned they came with anything more than the mini. I never bought into them because I thought the idea was nothing more than a money grab. They used a different term back then, but to me they were the same sort of nickel-and-diming.

My point though is that they sold add-ons back in the day, they sold many of the same add-ons for the recent iPad app and it's assured they'll do it for this new game - and to my wallet, it will be overpriced; too much for too little.

Posted over on BGG forums:

After speaking with my FLGS here is some info on the game from the sales rep.

- The designer was apart of the WHQ community. He tried to keep it close to the original.

- The holographic cards come with store orders around $3000. So good luck getting those.

- The game has 4 extra hero cards. The models are available individually but will drop in a few weeks as a boxed set. Price point was not given.

I am assuming that the 'store orders around $3000' is for a single order that includes WQ:ST will get some of the holographic cards included in their order.