Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update

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**AN'SHI**

why do so many people like the gryph-hounds? Their rules are not to shabby but is it cause of the model itself? or am I missing something...

**Requizen**

Probably a mix of both. The model is a cool non-humanoid and it's a great addition to any Order shooting army. win/win

**jullevi**

Also, Gryph-hound is the only item in whole Stormcast range that wouldn't look out of place in Old World. There musts be a number of collectors who dislike AoS aesthetics (AoSthetics?) but appreciate any (new) Old World compatible models.

**AN'SHI**

I see yes I agree for a shooty army they are good against "deep striking" units/armies and they do look cool. Sounds good to me

**mdauben**

em_en_oh_pee wrote:
It is their flagship line a la Space Marines. Expect it to be the focus forever.

The thing is, GW spams Space Marines releases because they easily outsell any other faction in 40K. Do Stormcast outsell any other faction in AoS? I certainly don't know but I tend to doubt it. People playing Stormcast certainly don't seem to dominate the various online AoS venues. In any case, Stormcast have a plenty filled out line of miniatures at this point, while many other factions still need some serious attention.

**Mangod**

jullevi wrote:
Also, Gryph-hound is the only item in whole Stormcast range that wouldn't look out of place in Old World. There musts be a number of collectors who dislike AoS aesthetics (AoSthetics?) but appreciate any (new) Old World compatible models.

While I have gained an appreciation for the AoS rules, the Stormcast Eternals still don't appeal to me on any level, so I'd say this is a possibility.

**reds8n**

http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/age-of-sigmar-grand-tournament-2017/

Heat 1: 21st-22nd January

Heat 2: TBC

Heat 3: TBC

Grand Final: 7th/8th October 2017

Welcome to Games Workshop’s Warhammer Age of Sigmar Grand Tournament season. This event is for anyone who enjoys using a canny mix of army selection, canny generalship and good cheer to win games of Warhammer Age of Sigmar. Being crowned the Grand Champion of Warhammer Age of Sigmar at the end of the year is a colossal achievement and worthy of great song and rejoicing.

Only a formidable general will be able to raise trophy belonging to the Grand Champion – Games Workshop’s unique prize we offer only to those who can not only play the game, but do so in the spirit of the Age of Sigmar, and with a well painted army to boot.

Event Essentials:

System: Warhammer : Age of Sigmar

Army Selection: Select an army worth a maximum value of 2,000 Points using the rules and restrictions provided in the Pitched Battle section from the General’s Handbook.

Only Warscrolls and Warscroll Battalions with Pitched Battle Profiles may be used at the Grand Tournament, see the Generals Handbook for details.

This includes Forge World models that have a Pitched Battle Profile.

Note that Allegiance Abilities can and should be used.

rulespack :

http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/Printer-Friendly-AOS-GT-2017-Event-Pack.pdf

**Bottle**

Oh, exciting! I am happy to see they have brought in a 20-0 scoring system, and the wooden spoon!

I might try and make it although I doubt I could get past a heat.

**Hulksmash**

I'm excited because this shows they are trying to bring back at least quasi competitive events. Also loving AoS right now. Have a local league starting here in the next two weeks which has around 30 sign-ups so even with 1/3 attrition that's a solid group of players.

**nicromancer**

mdauben wrote:
em_en_oh_pee wrote:
It is their flagship line a la Space Marines. Expect it to be the focus forever.

The thing is, GW spams Space Marines releases because they easily outsell any other faction in 40K. Do Stormcast outsell any other faction in AoS? I certainly don't know but I tend to doubt it. People playing Stormcast certainly don't seem to dominate the various online AoS venues. In any case, Stormcast have a plenty filled out line of miniatures at this point, while many other factions still need some serious attention.

They sell out every time they get in to the FLGS and i've seen more stormcast armies being started since AOS launch than i have other factions. (I think those who switched already have armies to play already and won't bother picking up a new one, but of the factions that have had new models since the games launch the stormcasts certainly do seem to be very popular. I'd say after that it's ironjaws and then sylvaneth.) Maybe give it a year or two to really let the game find its feet and i think we'll see more.

**Joyboozer**

nicromancer wrote:
mdauben wrote:
em_en_oh_pee wrote:
It is their flagship line a la Space Marines. Expect it to be the focus forever.

The thing is, GW spams Space Marines releases because they easily outsell any other faction in 40K. Do Stormcast outsell any other faction in AoS? I certainly don't know but I tend to doubt it. People playing Stormcast certainly don't seem to dominate the various online AoS venues. In any case, Stormcast have a plenty filled out line of miniatures at this point, while many other factions still need some serious attention.

They sell out every time they get in to the FLGS and i've seen more stormcast armies being started since AOS launch than i have other factions. (I think those who switched already have armies to play already and won't bother picking up a new one, but of the factions that have had new models since the games launch the stormcasts certainly do seem to be very popular. I'd say after that it's ironjaws and then sylvaneth.) Maybe give it a year or two to really let the game find its feet and i think we'll see more.

Hmm, something about your theory on the factions seems fishy, could it be the complete lack of support for almost all the other factions?

**EnTyme**

Fascinating how the factions with the most support seem to be the best sellers.

**Requizen**

Bah, I'd love to compete in a GT but only a couple even happen in driving distance of me. England is right out.

**The Shadow**

Wow, I'm really glad that GW have brought in a tournament rulepack, and even happier (and surprised) that they've brought in the Swiss system. Sounds like they're really committed to making tournament AoS the best it can be, which is great obviously.

I was thrilled when the General's Handbook came out and with it a points-based pitch battle system. Great to see that's being expanded upon.

**Baron Klatz**

Thanks for the cool news, Reds8n.

(not sure why but until I wrote your title out I always thought it said redesign.

)

EnTyme wrote:
Fascinating how the factions with the most support seem to be the best sellers.

The Sylvaneth actually prove that wrong. They were the best-sellers at the beginning of AoS before they got even more popular with their update.

jullevi wrote:
Also, Gryph-hound is the only item in whole Stormcast range that wouldn't look out of place in Old World. There musts be a number of collectors who dislike AoS aesthetics (AoSthetics?) but appreciate any (new) Old World compatible models.

Very true. I see alot of Gryph-hound pets for Empire generals and the like.

**NinthMusketeer**

Its a solid tournament pack and I'm glad they are incorporating at least some sportsmanship aspect, even if it is unlikely to tone back the game-breaking armies it is still a recognition that the problem exists.

Something I am noticing across AoS tournaments that has slipped in under our notice is the scenarios being used -- they are always the basic pitched battle scenarios without modification. To my experience this almost never happened in previous editions of WHFB or in 40k, at the very least there were house rules/clarifications applied. I think that speaks to how effective the pitched battle scenarios are at mixing the game up without changing things so much that it becomes a pain.

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Baron Klatz wrote:
EnTyme wrote:
Fascinating how the factions with the most support seem to be the best sellers.

The Sylvaneth actually prove that wrong. They were the best-sellers at the beginning of AoS before they got even more popular with their update.

**Baron Klatz**

Whoops, I thought support meant new models.

Good observation about the scenarios.

**shinros**

Mangod wrote:
jullevi wrote:
Also, Gryph-hound is the only item in whole Stormcast range that wouldn't look out of place in Old World. There musts be a number of collectors who dislike AoS aesthetics (AoSthetics?) but appreciate any (new) Old World compatible models.

While I have gained an appreciation for the AoS rules, the Stormcast Eternals still don't appeal to me on any level, so I'd say this is a possibility.

Even the new warrior priest from the sliver tower has a Gryph-hound. As I said I imagine those guys are quite popular with all branches of sigmar's military.

**Baron Klatz**

Hmm, I guess that means we finally got our mascot then. Greenskins have squigs, Undead has ghouls, chaos has nurglings and now Order's Gryph-hound.

Certainly beats the shoeless soldier of old.

**nels1031**

Baron Klatz wrote:
Hmm, I guess that means we finally got our mascot then. Greenskins have squigs, Undead has ghouls, chaos has nurglings and now Order's Gryph-hound.

Certainly beats the shoeless soldier of old.

No hybrid mutant beast will ever replace Powder Monkey. The true power of The World That Was. He will rise again.

http://thescattergungamer.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-humble-powder-monkey.html

**herjan1987**

Baron Klatz wrote:
Hmm, I guess that means we finally got our mascot then. Greenskins have squigs, Undead has ghouls, chaos has nurglings and now Order's Gryph-hound.

Certainly beats the shoeless soldier of old.

#

Everybody knows that mans best friend is the bretonnian archer dog or snail

**aquietfrog**

Is there any mention in the GT rules pack that round bases are required?

**godswildcard**

Do any of the FW models have pitched battle profiles? I can't find points for my Mournghul anywhere...

**Chikout**

godswildcard wrote:
Do any of the FW models have pitched battle profiles? I can't find points for my Mournghul anywhere...

It is 400 points. From the forgeworld downloads page

**auticus**

Yes there is a document with forgeworld profiles and their points. No I don't know where to go find it, but it was on the facebook page and I downloaded it.

**Jackal**

Forgeworld site, bottom of the page under downloads

All models have points costs there seperate to their profiles.

**usernamesareannoying**

I think that it's on the GW site somewhere but here you are from forgeworld.
Matched Play Points Update
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Downloads?_requestid=4795756#warhammeraos

**godswildcard**

Thanks all! Found it. Now I'm off to wonder why I didn't look under 'downloads' for a rules download...

**Baron Klatz**

Don't be too hard on yourself, friend. There's people who have had to be pointed out to look under "Rules" for model rules.

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nels1031 wrote:
Baron Klatz wrote:
Hmm, I guess that means we finally got our mascot then. Greenskins have squigs, Undead has ghouls, chaos has nurglings and now Order's Gryph-hound.

Certainly beats the shoeless soldier of old.

No hybrid mutant beast will ever replace Powder Monkey. The true power of The World That Was. He will rise again.

http://thescattergungamer.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-humble-powder-monkey.html

Sweet Sigmar that's genius!

herjan1987 wrote:
Baron Klatz wrote:
Hmm, I guess that means we finally got our mascot then. Greenskins have squigs, Undead has ghouls, chaos has nurglings and now Order's Gryph-hound.

Certainly beats the shoeless soldier of old.
#

Everybody knows that mans best friend is the bretonnian horse or another horse

FTFY

**Plumbumbarum**

Plumbumbarum wrote:
Hanskrampf wrote:
I still hope the rumoured Silver Tower expansion with undead turns out true.

How strong is that rumor? That could put me over the fence I'm on when it comes to buying Silver Tower, I want it for a few minis (horrors, familiars, gaunt summoneer, tzaangors, cultists) but can't stand few others (dwarf, questor, dwarf, ogroid thaumaturge, dwarf, guy with a swirling bits, also dwarf). It's not that I predict the undead to be particularly awesome, I hate mortarchs of nagash mounts design for example and looking at purely AoS designs like ogroid thaumaturge, it's straight World of Warcraft stuff (enough to put the pink horror from Silver Tower next to him to see the difference in styles) so the undead will probably join the rest of the crap, "modernised" designs that ape (the irony) the inferior, less characterful and significantly more childish rippofs of GW old stuff.

They can't ruin it all though, can they. I love undead to death and will buy almost everything plastic, including fething mortarchs and who knows, maybe a plastic Krell type guy there somewhere for old times sake eh GW? Not to mention, it's still a board game, still warhammer quest and quite fun from what I've heard.

I decided I'll do it. You don't know how hard it is for me, buying an AoS related product. It's hard. But

- I like the idea of the crazy chaos tower
- I like my tiles shiny, the ST ones are busy as feth but still shiny
- I want a few models there
- I can replace the dwarf
- I can convert the sigmarine into a full of tentacles chaos slave and sumoneer henchman who is sane just enough to be tormented by his fate but not enough to fight it
- I have an idea for Thaumaturge though will be still WoWish sadly
- I need a party game
- I want it in case the undead expansion happens
- I can play a party of a wight king, Krell, cairn wraith all summoned by a necromancer who made them not aware of their undead status to keep them heroic
- familiars

Have a question, how do the old human sized mini look against the cultist etc as in how's the scale. Also does the wight king look small for example, or a necromancer? Thanks.