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Having this mentioned: which orruks are we talking about? Does the novel specify as such or are they generic ones/mcguffins so that the forces of the city abandon its defence?

Have we seen the Orruks fight in multiple tribe-forces (ironjaws+bonesplitterz+greenskinz) yet?
   
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 unmercifulconker wrote:
 shinros wrote:
One guard in the noble quarter tried to get tough with Hannivar (witch hunter) he then shows his badge and tells him if he obstructs his work he could have him crucified on the walls of the city while the orruks outside use him for target practice.


Thats.........so metal. Not just he has him crucified on the wall of all things but so that Orruks could use him as a target dummy, brah Age of Sickmar.


I know right? I was laughing at that bit. I am gonna spoiler tag that bit just in case someone has not read it.

On spawning cults still also remember that as nick(the writer of city of secrets) said there is a reason why Tzeentch thrives during civilization imagine if slaanesh was active? He would have a field day with those people both gods are not warmongers they pick on the aspects of society to get their foot hold in. People will be people stuff like that happens in real life.

That's why nurgle and khorne were the strongest in times of war that's more of their thing, tzeentch and possibly slaanesh when we get to him? Are somewhat opposite.

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Lord Kragan wrote:
Having this mentioned: which orruks are we talking about? Does the novel specify as such or are they generic ones/mcguffins so that the forces of the city abandon its defence?

Have we seen the Orruks fight in multiple tribe-forces (ironjaws+bonesplitterz+greenskinz) yet?


They don't mention them they just say orruks, it seems the city has an orruk problem that's the reason why they left in such a huge force.

Spoiler:
Since the prophecy said their leader was popping up at a specific location of course that prophecy has other reasons surrounding it which I won't reveal.

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Lord Kragan wrote:
 unmercifulconker wrote:
Sigmar really needs to tone down the snobbery of his Azyr folk. Having that tension between Azyrites and other Realmers makes it that much easier for Tzeentch to plant his seeds of rebellion.

Thinking about how each race is trying to live together and you got things like Aelf pirates controlling the docks and the non-Azyrites living in the slums makes me think the cities are like Novigrad from Witcher 3 and I like that a lot.



Excelsis was an interesting insight. Now, though, it is representative?

Just think about it, excelsis may have been a "fairly recent" (30 years at most) city, with little in the way of social integration and the stormcast around not helping much. But what is the situation in those cities that are older and have different stormhosts??

Maybe things vary from one city to the other. Still I'm interested to see where this is going. Plus we need a map for the realms. Not just ghyran but the whole deal. Sigmar knows I'd kill for one and get a proper sense of scale sometimes.


Oh yeah really makes you want to know what other cities are like. Id love to know what one is like watched over by the Tempest Lords, since they were the greatest rulers. Or a Ghur civilisation that is constantly harassed by monsters and see what type of weapons/armour they customised to survive this long. One of the reasons I love AoS, Excelsis will most probably not be representative. There is soooo much variety. Each Realm has its own flavour, each area has its own flavour and each city has its own flavour.

I love the big map layouts they do the realms in the Realm-Gate books but yes I would love a more detailed one that does show the real scale of things. Its nice seeing the cities like on a Middle-Earth map but getting a more detailed look would be amazing.

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 unmercifulconker wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
 unmercifulconker wrote:
Sigmar really needs to tone down the snobbery of his Azyr folk. Having that tension between Azyrites and other Realmers makes it that much easier for Tzeentch to plant his seeds of rebellion.

Thinking about how each race is trying to live together and you got things like Aelf pirates controlling the docks and the non-Azyrites living in the slums makes me think the cities are like Novigrad from Witcher 3 and I like that a lot.



Excelsis was an interesting insight. Now, though, it is representative?

Just think about it, excelsis may have been a "fairly recent" (30 years at most) city, with little in the way of social integration and the stormcast around not helping much. But what is the situation in those cities that are older and have different stormhosts??

Maybe things vary from one city to the other. Still I'm interested to see where this is going. Plus we need a map for the realms. Not just ghyran but the whole deal. Sigmar knows I'd kill for one and get a proper sense of scale sometimes.


Oh yeah really makes you want to know what other cities are like. Id love to know what one is like watched over by the Tempest Lords, since they were the greatest rulers. Or a Ghur civilisation that is constantly harassed by monsters and see what type of weapons/armour they customised to survive this long. One of the reasons I love AoS, Excelsis will most probably not be representative. There is soooo much variety. Each Realm has its own flavour, each area has its own flavour and each city has its own flavour.

I love the big map layouts they do the realms in the Realm-Gate books but yes I would love a more detailed one that does show the real scale of things. Its nice seeing the cities like on a Middle-Earth map but getting a more detailed look would be amazing.


Well josh reynolds is writing another similar novel to the city of secrets I think it's taking place in Ghyran. Excelsis is also going to be one of the main cities in ghur just to let you know so I assume we will see more of it in the future possibly. I do feel having the races live together in such a fashion makes it feel more organic than having everything separated.

After the novel I want an AOS rpg it would be soooo much fun considering the scope of the setting and having information on cities.

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No offence lads but could you discus the story elsewhere.
   
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First review of the Disciples of Tzeentch battletome from Mengel Miniatures:

http://www.mengelminiatures.com/2017/01/review-disciples-of-tzeentch-battletome.html

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
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defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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 Ghaz wrote:
First review of the Disciples of Tzeentch battletome from Mengel Miniatures:

http://www.mengelminiatures.com/2017/01/review-disciples-of-tzeentch-battletome.html


I dig it! Cannot wait to get this book in my clawed hands!

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 Ghaz wrote:
First review of the Disciples of Tzeentch battletome from Mengel Miniatures:

http://www.mengelminiatures.com/2017/01/review-disciples-of-tzeentch-battletome.html


Thanks for the link. That was a nice read through and dang wish I bought the book and start collecting the army.

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Man, now I have two more books to read. I guess that box of brutes will have to wait.

You know what? I've been thinking a bit now on something a friend of mine told me. Age of Sigmar is in the colonial (read: XV-XVI centuries) era, when they discovered the americas: just think about it.

-At first we had fights in the midst of "nowhere" and specially in densely forested areas (Ghyran, Mandrake bastion).

-Once a more or less secure beach-head, we build cities and establish an administration.

-There's discrimination against natives.

-There's savage tribes (natives)

-We are starting to build civilization and there's a lot of stuff to deal with yet.
   
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 Ghaz wrote:
First review of the Disciples of Tzeentch battletome from Mengel Miniatures:

http://www.mengelminiatures.com/2017/01/review-disciples-of-tzeentch-battletome.html


Didn't they said on Warhammer Live, the book will include a Tzeentch only Slaves to Darkness faction?

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RazorEdge wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
First review of the Disciples of Tzeentch battletome from Mengel Miniatures:

http://www.mengelminiatures.com/2017/01/review-disciples-of-tzeentch-battletome.html


Didn't they said on Warhammer Live, the book will include a Tzeentch only Lost and the damned faction?


Ehn, no. The clearly said from day one that it would include Arcanites, StD, and daemons. I mean, they even showed us the three warlord tables.
   
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Sorry, I mean Slaves to Darkness.

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 There is soooo much variety. Each Realm has its own flavour, each area has its own flavour and each city has its own flavour. 


So very true and really hoping we'll see that translated to the models someday. Not sure if by whole new sub-factions(ex. Undead from Ghur with armies of undead beasts or Grots from the metal realm riding clockwork squigs) or just bases and conversion bits for certain realms but the potential for it would be amazing!

 Rayvon wrote:
No offence lads but could you discus the story elsewhere.


Well, I suppose if the Mods want us to but we are talking about the current news of GW taking a closer look at the realms with their new novels so I think we're okay.

Replying to Lord Kragon:
Spoiler:

Lord Kragan wrote:
Man, now I have two more books to read. I guess that box of brutes will have to wait.

You know what? I've been thinking a bit now on something a friend of mine told me. Age of Sigmar is in the colonial (read: XV-XVI centuries) era, when they discovered the americas: just think about it.

-At first we had fights in the midst of "nowhere" and specially in densely forested areas (Ghyran, Mandrake bastion).

-Once a more or less secure beach-head, we build cities and establish an administration.

-There's discrimination against natives.

-There's savage tribes (natives)

-We are starting to build civilization and there's a lot of stuff to deal with yet.


Oh, that's a very interesting viewpoint.

I guess we already got a taste of manifest destiny as well when the Sylvaneth and Ironweld came to blows.

About the native discrimination concerns, I think the Azyrites do have some justification for it.

In most fantasy settings the whole point of this kind of thing would be a purely "see how bad things are" or " their civilization is backwards for not embracing equality" thing but with the reclaimed they have had to adapt to life under chaos, serve their conquerors and endure being in lands cursed by chaos.

Though not by their choice, they worshipped chaos, came into contact with the unholy and no doubt ate and drank tainted food. The corruption is definitely in their blood and who can say when it could rear it's damning head in a future generation.

Would we want to lose something as special as human purity that the Azyrites have? The people of the world-that-was were doomed to mutation and corruption in them as all humanity had suffered through the coming of chaos and it's changing of the world.

With AoS we have humans free of that taint as they started over by Sigmar's power.

Just my thought on it, anyway.

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Baron Klatz wrote:

Well, I suppose if the Mods want us to but we are talking about the current news of GW taking a closer look at the realms with their new novels so I think we're okay.


Fair enough, but i keep coming here for news and rumours, not wading through pages of discussion about the story, could you at least spoiler it pretty please ?

   
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Alright, that's fair.
   
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 Mymearan wrote:
Love me some STD.


It's the Nurgle STD you need to worry about.

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It is not Slaves to Darkness specific but rather Mortal Tzeentch keywords. For the most part this does mean StD, but some models like the Magister or Curseling also have the Mortal keyword.

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/17/warhammer-live-schedule-january-18-20th/

The 3:30 GMT Narrative game on Warhammer Live tomorrow will feature the Free Peoples and a Death horde against a Tzeetchian host using the Disciples of Tzeentch battletome.

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 Ghaz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/17/warhammer-live-schedule-january-18-20th/

The 3:30 GMT Narrative game on Warhammer Live tomorrow will feature the Free Peoples and a Death horde against a Tzeetchian host using the Disciples of Tzeentch battletome.


setting the timer to be sure to watch this one.

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*Does a quick time conversion*

1:30 AM. Well damn, I really can't afford to not sleep.

At least I should be awake for the end game summary...
   
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 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
*Does a quick time conversion*

1:30 AM. Well damn, I really can't afford to not sleep.

At least I should be awake for the end game summary...


You can always subscribe and view it later. 5 dollars a month aren't bank breaking once you consider the hobby's standards.
   
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$5 a month for mistake-ridden games is a bit much lol. I'd catch them live for free though
   
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I quite like the new Ogroid Thaumaturge. Would it make a good substitute for a Lord of Change in Warhammer 40K? Is it a similar height, or is the Lord of Change much bigger? I've never really liked the bird Daemons of Tzeentch but this guy is cool.

Spoiler:
   
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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I quite like the new Ogroid Thaumaturge. Would it make a good substitute for a Lord of Change in Warhammer 40K? Is it a similar height, or is the Lord of Change much bigger? I've never really liked the bird Daemons of Tzeentch but this guy is cool.

Spoiler:


I think it's a bit smaller than the old one.... thing is it's definitely a lot smaller than the current one.
   
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AFAIK that's only a 50mm base so he's a fair bit smaller than even the soon-to-be-previous version of the LoC, I think.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I quite like the new Ogroid Thaumaturge. Would it make a good substitute for a Lord of Change in Warhammer 40K? Is it a similar height, or is the Lord of Change much bigger? I've never really liked the bird Daemons of Tzeentch but this guy is cool.

Spoiler:

It's around the same size as the current one, barring the wings on the LoC.

He's more in line with a Daemon Prince, and who wouldn't want the shiny new LoC?
   
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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I quite like the new Ogroid Thaumaturge. Would it make a good substitute for a Lord of Change in Warhammer 40K? Is it a similar height, or is the Lord of Change much bigger? I've never really liked the bird Daemons of Tzeentch but this guy is cool.

Spoiler:

I'm painting the ogroid now. (Nowhere near finished yet) He is not that that big. Might make a good demon prince.
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I wonder if they'll ever sell a thaumaturge outside of silver tower?
It would be nice.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
I wonder if they'll ever sell a thaumaturge outside of silver tower?
It would be nice.

Boy, are you ever in luck...

You should be able to pick it up on Saturday.

And yes, I realize the URL has the wrong spelling of "Ogroid". But that's the correct URL.

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