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2017/04/14 23:48:27
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Galas wrote: The Arkanaut Box only comes with 1 of every 3 types of special weapons, so if you want 3 Skypike for example, you need to look for bitz online, conversions or buy... 3 boxes... me don't like.
Kits like this are inconvenient, but having enough to fully equip the unit with any weapon type would mean paying for a lot of bits that go unused.
Looks like you may be able to get some skypikes and volley guns from the Skyriggers kit.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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2017/04/15 01:45:16
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
War Of Sigmar - Rumors and rules for age of Sigmar
War Of Sigmar - Rumors and rules for age of Sigmar
War Of Sigmar - Rumors and rules for age of Sigmar
Done.
Um, those links aren't working for me. So incase I'm not the only mobile user getting left out here's the links again:
Formations.
(Hehehe Iron Sky)Gives Reroll to charge and extra shooting first turn, with the right command ability you can run and shoot first turn with 1 extra shoot per weapons.
Spoiler:
Gives a bonus to focus firing. (?)
Transforms a one per battle power into one per turn (?)
Gives shield guard to heroes near the company (?)
What we all care about. Points
Part two of massive glorious image dump.
More art. Uniforms and Heavy Metal stuff.
Spoiler:
Model pics.
Spoiler:
Whew. This took frigging ages. Source: the above War Of Sigmar links.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
2017/04/15 02:42:51
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Galas wrote: One way or another we are gonna pay those bits (If we don't convert, obvious). I prefer to pay 3-4 more € for all the options that needing to go to a Bitz reseller, or buying a new whole box.
Only if every unit maxes out on the same weapon. If you have, say, two units using different special weapons then now you are paying for two extra bits instead of twelve.
Bottle wrote: Grundstok Thunderers seem interesting. So from the wording I could equip an entire unit with the Mortars (if I had the parts)? They don't actually seem that destructive with instead lots of ways to do Damage 1, but a unit of 5 Mortars would be nice if only for the range!
Edit - and if they all had Mortars you could double their shots with the Kemist's ability.
It seems that the issue with all weapon options costing the same will be reoccurring with this unit :(
I'm forseeing a unit of 15 mortars and 2 Khemists dominating the field with 45 shots a turn at 36". Not to mention double-turn potential.
I imagine there will only be one Mortar in the box which will be enough to curtail it from regular battlefields, but I imagine at tournaments we will see them!
After seeing the costs I think it's safe to say that yeah, barring something even worse this will show up at tourneys. 600 points to throw out 60 shots a turn at 36", an average of 20 wounds against a 4+ save means all the enemy heroes can be sniped out easily in just a few turns. Easy to fit into any Order army as well.
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Galas wrote: One way or another we are gonna pay those bits (If we don't convert, obvious). I prefer to pay 3-4 more € for all the options that needing to go to a Bitz reseller, or buying a new whole box.
Only if every unit maxes out on the same weapon. If you have, say, two units using different special weapons then now you are paying for two extra bits instead of twelve.
Actually you can pick 3 special weapons for every 10. What you say would be right if it where 2 special weapons for every 10 dwarfs. So maybe two of every special weapon per box will be a better compromise... but well, its a little late to change it
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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2017/04/15 03:26:27
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Gamgee wrote: That mask reminds me of Pan's Labyrinth for some reason.
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So what is the verdict on the Kharadron? OP? Balanced? Need buffs?
Assessing what we have so far (which is not everything, so take with salt) I'm seeing the same thing as the last three battletomes; decent balance overall that is unlikely to be a problem in casual games, but a few things that fell through the cracks which will keep the tournament scene at 'cheese' level for the foreseeable future.
I can't wait to see what tips and stuff Duncan has in store for us. I don't have the money to plunge into this army right now, but I might get the book just for the fluff and art. I want to see how those shadow aelves turn out before I commit 100% to another army.
2017/04/15 04:51:04
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Galas wrote: The Arkanaut Box only comes with 1 of every 3 types of special weapons, so if you want 3 Skypike for example, you need to look for bitz online, conversions or buy... 3 boxes... me don't like.
You don't like that you can't take 3 of the same one or that you have to put in extra work for the cheese?
2017/04/15 06:51:34
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Galas wrote: One way or another we are gonna pay those bits (If we don't convert, obvious). I prefer to pay 3-4 more € for all the options that needing to go to a Bitz reseller, or buying a new whole box.
Only if every unit maxes out on the same weapon. If you have, say, two units using different special weapons then now you are paying for two extra bits instead of twelve.
Actually you can pick 3 special weapons for every 10. What you say would be right if it where 2 special weapons for every 10 dwarfs. So maybe two of every special weapon per box will be a better compromise... but well, its a little late to change it
3 per ten, two units using different special weapons, each kit has one special weapon that goes to the other kit. At any rate, yes, two would be a nice compromise. Or just writing the warscroll to have the special weapon be 2 per 10.
Gamgee wrote: That mask reminds me of Pan's Labyrinth for some reason.
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So what is the verdict on the Kharadron? OP? Balanced? Need buffs?
After 30 seconds of release, no book in people's hands? I take it you are joking
When you have a lot of experience it actually isn't too hard to get a rough evaluation by looking at the warscrolls and the point costs, at least when determining outlying elements that are particularly good or bad.
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A but since you did not cite the infraction in the presence of triplicated third parties on both sides and bring the book to the deck of my vessel there is no way to know that there was in fact any breach of code. Even once this is done I'll need to take it to my nearest port to have signed in triplicate by the authorities. My port being notorious for delays in paperwork it is not unheard of for the paperwork to simply never make it to where it needs to be.
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2017/04/15 09:19:20
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Gamgee wrote: That mask reminds me of Pan's Labyrinth for some reason.
Edit
So what is the verdict on the Kharadron? OP? Balanced? Need buffs?
They look really weak to me. Zero ways to deal Mortal Wounds so far. How would they even consider taking down a unit of Fulminators with their 1+ re-rollable saves in the shooting phase, or Sylvaneth Treelords with Oaken Armour?
The ships all remind me of the Steamtank - lots of wounds but the damage output relying on a single 1 shot cannon that will only hit in half your turns. I know from experience how unreliable the Steamtank is.
But saying that, a unit of Grundstock Thunderers all with Mortars backed-up by a Khemist in a mixed Order Army near a Hurricanum and maybe a Loremaster is going to be absolute filth.
Bye bye Dakkadakka, happy hobbying! I really enjoyed my time on here. Opinions were always my own :-)
2017/04/15 10:33:00
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Gamgee wrote: That mask reminds me of Pan's Labyrinth for some reason.
Edit
So what is the verdict on the Kharadron? OP? Balanced? Need buffs?
They look really weak to me. Zero ways to deal Mortal Wounds so far. How would they even consider taking down a unit of Fulminators with their 1+ re-rollable saves in the shooting phase, or Sylvaneth Treelords with Oaken Armour?
The ships all remind me of the Steamtank - lots of wounds but the damage output relying on a single 1 shot cannon that will only hit in half your turns. I know from experience how unreliable the Steamtank is.
But saying that, a unit of Grundstock Thunderers all with Mortars backed-up by a Khemist in a mixed Order Army near a Hurricanum and maybe a Loremaster is going to be absolute filth.
I think the supremacy mine does d6 mortal wounds and I'm pretty sure there were one or two other things mentioned but it definitely is quite limited it seems [not that I know what I'm talking about- trying to get my head round AoS at the moment!].
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2017/04/15 10:38:11
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours ; Pg 233 Slaughterbrutes and Mutaliths have had a Warscroll update
Gamgee wrote: A but since you did not cite the infraction in the presence of triplicated third parties on both sides and bring the book to the deck of my vessel there is no way to know that there was in fact any breach of code. Even once this is done I'll need to take it to my nearest port to have signed in triplicate by the authorities. My port being notorious for delays in paperwork it is not unheard of for the paperwork to simply never make it to where it needs to be.
Note to self: never hire Gamgee as a privateer, victories will result in getting loopholed into pyrrhic status.
