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I won't refuse to buy a model because the rules are bad.

I WILL refuse to buy a model with amazing rules if the model is too atrocious to stand looking at. (CoughcoughStormtaloncoughcough.)

Vespids. Look bad, fight bad.

At the moment anything CSM. Went for horus heresy anyway so it's not a bad thing. Just can not figure why anything CSM would be worth while.

Martel732 wrote:
Land Raiders. Beautiful models. Vomit-inducing rules.

I second this.


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 Jimsolo wrote:
I won't refuse to buy a model because the rules are bad.

I WILL refuse to buy a model with amazing rules if the model is too atrocious to stand looking at. (CoughcoughStormtaloncoughcough.)

Really? I think it looks pretty cool. Kinda like the Orca from C&C.

C'tan shards .

Hellions and Wyches are obvious. I have some, they look great, but I wont be buying anymore as they'll never see use.

Pyrovores, I really like their model but those rules. Though the Tyranocite may have actually made them somewhat more playable, there are still better options.

Trygon, sort of. I still bought the models but built them as Mawlocs because 50pts cheaper and a whole lot more effective.

Haruspex. Struggles to get into combat, struggles to do any damage in combat, build it as an Exocrine.

Part of me wants to get Ghazgkull (cool model) but he just seems like a triple costed Warboss. His 40 dollar price tag doesn't seem worth it at all.

Also why isn't there a regular warboss in mega armor model?
Or a warboss on bike?

I guess the answer to those questions is "sorry you play orks"

edit: I don't regret buying the morkanaut. I love the model and it was fun to paint and build. Looks menacing amongst my orks. "just get a stompa for 5 more dollars" well duh I'm ALSO going to get a stompa, but I like having many different size robots like russian stacking dolls

Possessed. Dear (chaos) lord the possessed. The rules are good and I like the formations in Crimson slaughter, but the models look like Warner bros cartoon villains.

For me, it's usually the opposite. I buy models for looks, not rules. Example: The Devastator Centurions are one of the most powerful units in the game right now, but I will never buy one. It's one of the dumbest looking models in the SM line.

Pretty much anything CSM. If I had to narrow it down to 1 unit, it'd be either 1k sons or Mutilators. Rules are steaming piles of crap, models are gak too.

I misread the title and thought it said sell.

In the case of buying. Oh well that's easy for Tau Vespids and the fighters which may now be even worse than the Vespids if DftS becomes mainstream.

As for Dark Eldar Wyches.

Edit
At some point I will grab one of everything but they are the lowest priorities i my codices.

Generally if I like the models I'll buy it anyway. BUT, I may only buy 1 of them if the rules are trash where as I want to buy more.

Raveners for example.

Electro priests... they just suck so bad...

Well, I have 3 main armies:

Orks: I am aiming to get a unit of everything in the Codex. Right now, I'm missing a few. Official Kannons and Lobbas are great, but very expensive for their points so I may never own them. I don't really dig flyers all that much, so I don't have any of them. Nothing that I wouldn't get because it's bad though. I have a mob of 10 Flash Gitz, after all. Ok, maybe the Gorka/Morkanaut. I certainly wouldn't buy one of each.

Crimson Fists: Plenty of units I won't buy because I hate the look of them; Centurions, flyers. I would love a Thunderfire Cannon but I've heard it's a nightmare to assemble, so I've been holding off. Maybe the Hunter/ Stalker for a unit I won't buy because I don't know how good it is. Probably hypocritical with how many Land Raiders I own, but meh.

Space Wolves: I'm very iffy on the new Wulfen models, but again that's on the mini not the rule. I did actually recently take apart my Swiftclaw Bikers because of how bad they're reported to be.

Maleceptor/Big poisoned bug guy.
I'd love to add them as models to the Hive but just wont due to their rules.

Peninitent engines for me. Apparently nine of them rage across the table pretty well, but I only want one and they don't seem to hold up too well.

Dark eldar mandrakes kick butt models but pointless on the rules front a cc unit with no armour there only saving grace is objective grabing if your opponant has no flamers or oh nevermind there rules just suck..(imo)

I actually haven't encountered this problem, I just use them count-as something else.

Deff Dreads are my favorite looking unit in the ork codex, but they're walkers, ork ones at that, so they have all the problems of normal walkers with all the generic ork problems added on top. They're cheap, sure, but they won't get anywhere quick.

God I just want to build one though for the hell of it.

The 7th Edition Rulebook

A second Defiler. It's the model that made me first pick CSM as my 40k faction over a decade ago, but mine is just gathering dust on a shelf.

Mutilators... Tho- it's half because they suck and half because they are old and ugly models.
And as the guy above me said- Defiler... I LOVE this model, actually have a few of them.. But they suck so bad and never see the table.
Same with forgefiends, ultra expensive points wise for a BS3 shooting platform that doesn't really shoot that much... Rather just make another maulerfiend out of the kit.

 the_Armyman wrote:
The 7th Edition Rulebook

Other people merely adopted 7th Edition. I was born into 7th Edition, molded by it. I didn't see the error of my way until I was already enslaved by it! haha


For me, it's not so much what I wouldn't buy per se so much as what I wouldn't buy more of, and that's Vindicators. They're too squishy with a range that's a bit too short (even 27" or 30" as opposed to 24" would be nice haha), and generally require lots of other scary firepower that I don't have the skill to apply tactically. Plus they're $83 AUS each brand new, so there's that as well haha.

If I ever got around to getting a second army, I'd want to run chaos space marines with khorne berserkers and thousand sons. Ahriman as the HQ.

Personally, I love the fluff and the look for them.

Competitively, I think we all know why this wouldn't be a good idea.

* Warp Talons
* 1k Sons
* Bloodcrushers (I so want them to be good)
* Keeper of Secrets
* Deathwing Knights
* Deathwing Terminators
* C:SM Terminators
* Nephilim Jetfighter
* Land Raider (all varities)
* Dreadnoughts (All varieties save ironclad)
* Death Cult Assassains
* Repentia Squad
* Scourges
* Wytches

 Vitali Advenil wrote:
Deff Dreads are my favorite looking unit in the ork codex, but they're walkers, ork ones at that, so they have all the problems of normal walkers with all the generic ork problems added on top. They're cheap, sure, but they won't get anywhere quick.

God I just want to build one though for the hell of it.

Easy fix: play FW Dread Mob! They may stink out of the codex but give them obsec and not a HS slot and they're not half bad!

Deathwing Terminators. If they were actually good I'd probably play Dark Angels... Awesome models.

Shining spears. For a fast melee unit they have a good bonus to strength on the charge but otherwise they are guardians fighting with AP2 weapons... And having to buy jetbikes AND upgrade packs to make a horrible melee unit when I could just make those jetbikes into scatbikes. To make matters worse they are in a slot that is already filled with far better options.

 thepowerfulwill wrote:
Possessed. Dear (chaos) lord the possessed. The rules are good and I like the formations in Crimson slaughter, but the models look like Warner bros cartoon villains.

I like the body and the weapons they look great! I don't know why you wouldnt like those parts, the faces though... dear god the faces

UrsoerTheSquid wrote:
Sgt. Harker

See if you cannot find a set of Last Chancers. I used Shiv for Marbo and Dog for Harker

Personally, the Ghostkeel. Everything about Tau is Range Range Range, why take a platform that has less range than my fire warriors? Remember, before you have to worry about hitting things, or wounding them, you have to be in range. It is why I love Missile Pods. Decent ROF, long range and high Str. AP is middling, but when I can whittle away what you have before your can bring your weapons to bear. . .