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 Mymearan wrote:
....You expect the GW containers, which are much more detailed, made in HIPS, hollow with usable and detailed inside and with extra accessories, to cost the same or just slightly more than those solid foamed plastic lumps? That's... Not reasonable at all. In fact knowing that those cost £5 each, even double the price would be a very fair deal for the GW ones.

Expect; No. Would like at £15-20; definitely.

£30 would be too much IMO, even if then discounted.

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 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

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 notprop wrote:
When I say affordable I mean £5 or so each, like these prepainted foamed plastic ones from Tablescapes. I have a load of these and none of the hassle or smell of MDF.


So for say £15-20 for 3 (+ crates/barrels), I'd be interested in a few of these kits from GW.

You expect the GW containers, which are much more detailed, made in HIPS, hollow with usable and detailed inside and with extra accessories, to cost the same or just slightly more than those solid foamed plastic lumps? That's... Not reasonable at all. In fact knowing that those cost £5 each, even double the price would be a very fair deal for the GW ones.

How often will you use the interior of a shipping container?

Depends on what you're using it for... not really relevant for the price discussion though.

Of course it is- you'll be paying extra for the interior detail over the "plastic lumps". If it's not something you'll use, why would you need it?

Some people will use them a lot, some people not at all, same as any feature of any product. If you don't think they're worth the price you can go buy cheaper ones with less detail, no accessories and no interior. Expecting them to cost the same is still not reasonable.

Oh, did I say I expect them to cost the same?

I'm just questioning why pay more for a glorified box, and whether the interior detail is a selling point or superfluous.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
I'm just questioning why pay more for a glorified box, and whether the interior detail is a selling point or superfluous.

wild guess here, but maybe, because some do like something assimilating their table game

Why pay more for better stuff when you can get crappier stuff cheaper.

I'm loving the way they look. Might have to leave my kids without their medicines in order to buy a couple of those haha.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

I'm just questioning why pay more for a glorified box, and whether the interior detail is a selling point or superfluous.

Interior detail is a selling point for me.

Might seem silly, but it means I can have quite a few more of them as some can be left open with contents still within.

 ashikenshin wrote:
Why pay more for better stuff when you can get crappier stuff cheaper.

I'm loving the way they look. Might have to leave my kids without their medicines in order to buy a couple of those haha.

It's literally a box meant to hold things. The cheaper cargo containers fit the style of more systems. How much more are you willing to pay for those extra details for a box?


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 Kanluwen wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

I'm just questioning why pay more for a glorified box, and whether the interior detail is a selling point or superfluous.

Interior detail is a selling point for me.

Might seem silly, but it means I can have quite a few more of them as some can be left open with contents still within.

I can understand that. It's not my thing, but I prefer to hobby lazier.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 ashikenshin wrote:
Why pay more for better stuff when you can get crappier stuff cheaper.

I'm loving the way they look. Might have to leave my kids without their medicines in order to buy a couple of those haha.

It's literally a box meant to hold things. The cheaper cargo containers fit the style of more systems. How much more are you willing to pay for those extra details for a box?

It doesn't matter if it's an Imperial shrine, a forest of twisted trees, an ancient ruined altar or a mere shipping container. It all adds to the look of the game table. In several people's opinion, these containers will look better on a properly themed Warhammer 40,000 board than the cheaper, less detailed MDF alternatives. YMMV, of course.

Yes, the details mean it's less suited to being used on a table that isn't for 40k, but I don't see that as a drawback. I don't use the Space Marines in Infinity, Batman or whatever else, so I'm not particularly worried about these.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

It's literally a box meant to hold things. The cheaper cargo containers fit the style of more systems. How much more are you willing to pay for those extra details for a box?

I mean you can take that argument a step further and say buildings are just boxes. Why even buy any terrain kits, just use shoe boxes or whatever. Why bother with miniatures? Just make some wire stick figures and call it a day.

People pay for quality and detail. It's pretty universally understood concept, I think.

Yeah I really don't understand what we're arguing here.

GW makes stuff.

Other people make stuff.

Some stuff is cheaper.

Some is more expensive.

Some is better.

Some is worse.

And people make choices among those possibilities.

I mean for the records I have 4 or 5 of the reaper crates and I still want these. And no, I can't explain why. I've passed up many a grimdark tree, tower or fortress but these boxes are just smexy and perfect for a drop ship I want to build.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

I'm just questioning why pay more for a glorified box, and whether the interior detail is a selling point or superfluous.

Interior detail is a selling point for me.

Might seem silly, but it means I can have quite a few more of them as some can be left open with contents still within.

I can understand that. It's not my thing, but I prefer to hobby lazier.

Truthfully, I'm thinking about one-upping the Storm Bolters on the crates.
I might try to combine two crates into one and have a Tarantula Sentry Gun deployed within...

Because why stop at a Storm Bolter for theft deterrent, when you can have dummy boxes loaded with freaking heavy bolters?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Yeah I really don't understand what we're arguing here.

GW makes stuff.

Other people make stuff.

Some stuff is cheaper.

Some is more expensive.

Some is better.

Some is worse.

And people make choices among those possibilities.

I mean for the records I have 4 or 5 of the reaper crates and I still want these. And no, I can't explain why. I've passed up many a grimdark tree, tower or fortress but these boxes are just smexy and perfect for a drop ship I want to build.

I think you forget its 2016, the chinese zodiac year of questioning people's life styles.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

I'm just questioning why pay more for a glorified box, and whether the interior detail is a selling point or superfluous.

Interior detail is a selling point for me.

Might seem silly, but it means I can have quite a few more of them as some can be left open with contents still within.

I can understand that. It's not my thing, but I prefer to hobby lazier.

Truthfully, I'm thinking about one-upping the Storm Bolters on the crates.
I might try to combine two crates into one and have a Tarantula Sentry Gun deployed within...

Because why stop at a Storm Bolter for theft deterrent, when you can have dummy boxes loaded with freaking heavy bolters?

or just lock the doors.......skull shaped padlock incoming....

 notprop wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

I'm just questioning why pay more for a glorified box, and whether the interior detail is a selling point or superfluous.

Interior detail is a selling point for me.

Might seem silly, but it means I can have quite a few more of them as some can be left open with contents still within.

I can understand that. It's not my thing, but I prefer to hobby lazier.

Truthfully, I'm thinking about one-upping the Storm Bolters on the crates.
I might try to combine two crates into one and have a Tarantula Sentry Gun deployed within...

Because why stop at a Storm Bolter for theft deterrent, when you can have dummy boxes loaded with freaking heavy bolters?

or just lock the doors.......skull shaped padlock incoming....

Followed by the new Cultist Package Thief unit upgrade.

Comes with a Chaos Star shaped bolt cutter.

I'm waiting for the Eldar equivalent.

Ulthwe Parcel Service---getting you monkeigh what you deserve before you expect it.

Wow, what a nice release week

Paints, crates, and bases... what more could I ask for 60 bases sounds like it's on a sprue. Can't wait.

As others have said, I'm amazed at how long it took GW to come out with a reasonable scenic base offering.


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Da Butcha wrote:
I'm waiting for the Eldar equivalent.

Ulthwe Parcel Service---getting you monkeigh what you deserve before you expect it.

I would go nuts if they had Eldar equivalents to all the Imperium scenery/terrain/"misc stuff"

Cool stuff. The Containers are brilliant, so many uses for them!

Gloss Washes? hummm I can see a good use for them like wet things and such.

I can now build the Nuk3town setting and it will be glorious!

Containers are cool, nice to see all the bits with them too, they will be perfect with the new Age of the Emperor 40k skirmish rules, one of 3 ways to play coming out at the end of the year. all good skirmish game makers have crates... lol

I do wanna know more about the paints asap :/
hope there is a warhammer tv demo of them...

 EnTyme wrote:
People are just thinking in terms of these being used to transport supplies, but once the supplies are delivered, you now have a 8' high metal wall. Why wouldn't you want to put a gun emplacement on your fortification?

Or nasty little surprise.

The US one seems to operate more on idea of old q-ships. At least from the article didn't look so much as crate being used to transport much if anything. Rather quick to set up emplacement that can be transported like other crates.

These look really cool!

tneva82 wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
People are just thinking in terms of these being used to transport supplies, but once the supplies are delivered, you now have a 8' high metal wall. Why wouldn't you want to put a gun emplacement on your fortification?

Or nasty little surprise.

The US one seems to operate more on idea of old q-ships. At least from the article didn't look so much as crate being used to transport much if anything. Rather quick to set up emplacement that can be transported like other crates.

That, too. In either case, these aren't being used to just deliver supplies. They have a tactical use.

A long, long time ago on the old FW website there was a section about FW sculptors and who did what. I think it was Mark Bedford who was working on the SM cargo container with the description saying that it was used for combat supplies and also as means of transportation for the SM Attack bikes.

Maybe FW will also release their model that they've used a lot in the UM vs WB diorama;

I'm interested in the new metallics, and giving them a spin. Besides the overabundance of greens and browns, one of the worst parts of the current Citadel paint lineup is the metallics. Leadbelcher was alright, but not as good as Boltgun Metal. The rest were crap, until last year's Age of Sigmar release gave us Retributor Armor and Liberator Gold, 2 decent, useable metallics. The previous golds were awful. Hopefully these three new ones continue the trend toward better metallics.

It's a fortification...look at how many rules a ruddy container has.

Still will be nice for terrain (only) if the price is right.

Who fires the Stormbolters?

40 points gets you all that? The ammo dump itself was a 20 point option in Stronghold Assault.

I’m not saying it’s game breaking, but if they are going to give rules for every bit and bob in the box like that, I’d expect to pay more points.

Probably models in base contact, like with emplaced weapons or weapon emplacements... I forget which is which.
EDIT: yeah it says as such in the rules section under "Armoured Containment:.

Oh, yeah, I see it now.

 ShaneTB wrote:
It's a fortification...look at how many rules a ruddy container has.

Still will be nice for terrain (only) if the price is right.

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Not enough rules! Needs more! MOAR CRATES MEANS MOAR RULES!

On a serious note, I like.

Skitarii and Cult Mechanicus will get a huge benefit from these. Arkhan and Scryerskull have a huge use here!

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