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Wait, am I reading this right?

Sixty 32mm bases for £20.
Forty 25mm and 40mm for £20.
Eighteen 60mm, 75mm and 90mm bases for £20.

Those are all pretty damn cheap for moulded bases! The 32mm are 33p each! The last time I bought moulded bases were the resin 25mm bases from Anvil Industry which are £7 for 10 (70p) each.

These aren't limited edition are they?

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Wait, am I reading this right?

Sixty 32mm bases for £20.
Forty 25mm and 40mm for £20.
Eighteen 60mm, 75mm and 90mm bases for £20.

Those are all pretty damn cheap for moulded bases! The 32mm are 33p each! The last time I bought moulded bases were the resin 25mm bases from Anvil Industry which are £7 for 10 (70p) each.

These aren't limited edition are they?

It doesn't sound like it, no. Smart move indeed, backed up by better pricing. Hard to not like these.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Wait, am I reading this right?

Sixty 32mm bases for £20.
Forty 25mm and 40mm for £20.
Eighteen 60mm, 75mm and 90mm bases for £20.

Those are all pretty damn cheap for moulded bases! The 32mm are 33p each! The last time I bought moulded bases were the resin 25mm bases from Anvil Industry which are £7 for 10 (70p) each.

These aren't limited edition are they?

& they're up on the gamingfigures site for pre-order at £17 each.

Speaking of bases, do we know any 40k model that uses 90mm oval base? Spawn of Cryptus and Deathwatch Biker come with 75mm oval. Ballistarii, Deathstorm Carnifex and Ghostkeel Battlesuit with 105mm oval. Even from Age of Sigmar range, I can't think of anything but Dracothian Cavalry (including the boss from Starter Set) and Khorgorath that come with 90mm oval base.

However, this would not be the first time that a base is available separately before any miniature uses it. 160mm round base was released separately before Archaon and I still don't know any miniature that uses 80mm round base (it looks lovely on Carnifex and Deff Dreads, though),

75mm oval base looks great on Space Marine and Ork Bikes, way better than the old bike base.

The Leviathan and Deredeo Dreadnoughts come on 80mm bases, I believe.

Still no good base size for an Attack Bike though, I guess.

 Azreal13 wrote:


There's a distinct difference in finishes between glossy red and transparent red over a metallic base, have a look at many of the Khorne Daemon Engines from FW for examples of the latter. I'm pretty sure for display purposes you're still better off doing it the old fashioned way, but at an army painting level, coat of metallic, highlight, coat of gemstone will probably get a better effect vs time spent.

Yep. I'd guess the "gemstone" paints are basically red ink + glossy gel medium, the idea being to slap on a thick transparent coat and get a glass-like surface.

Too bad they didn't include a gemstone yellow, you could have used it as a highlight for red and green - you can of course mix your own, though.

 Redemption wrote:
The Leviathan and Deredeo Dreadnoughts come on 80mm bases, I believe.

Still no good base size for an Attack Bike though, I guess.

Normal dreadnought base should fit Attack Bikes just fine.. That's what I use for mine. I've started using the ovals for my Ravenwing and they look fantastic.


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 prowla wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:


There's a distinct difference in finishes between glossy red and transparent red over a metallic base, have a look at many of the Khorne Daemon Engines from FW for examples of the latter. I'm pretty sure for display purposes you're still better off doing it the old fashioned way, but at an army painting level, coat of metallic, highlight, coat of gemstone will probably get a better effect vs time spent.

Yep. I'd guess the "gemstone" paints are basically red ink + glossy gel medium, the idea being to slap on a thick transparent coat and get a glass-like surface.

Too bad they didn't include a gemstone yellow, you could have used it as a highlight for red and green.

**edit: ignore me- stupid AoV is tired...

 angelofvengeance wrote:


I wonder if these will mix OK... if so, just mix the blue and green together. Et voila- yellow gemstone

I'm pretty sure it would make blueish green, though - you're probably thinking about blue + yellow = green

Vallejo has a nice boxed set of Game Color inks, though. I'd get one of those and some gloss medium.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Redemption wrote:
The Leviathan and Deredeo Dreadnoughts come on 80mm bases, I believe.

Still no good base size for an Attack Bike though, I guess.

Normal dreadnought base should fit Attack Bikes just fine.. That's what I use for mine. I've started using the ovals for my Ravenwing and they look fantastic.

They can be placed on it, but they really crowd the base. Now that marines are on 32mm and bikers appears to get the upgrade to the 75x46mm oval - which looks more better than the smaller base sizes I believe - it would have been nice to get a base size that fits the Attack Bike well. I might try an 80mm round one once I paint up mine though, see how that looks.

 Redemption wrote:

They can be placed on it, but they really crowd the base. .

Which is as it should be. The base is supposed to define the area occupied by the miniature on the tabletop. Making it substantially larger then the miniature's footprint works against that.

For the same reason, while the 32mm bases for infantry look pretty, they were the wrong way to go, IMO.

25mm bases are too small for a lot of models though. If I do a top down view of my Blood Angels Assault Marines on a 32mm base, they nicely fill the circle with little empty space and the only overhang is the occasional barrel or chainsword for the dramatic poses, which is as it should be imo.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, my Tyranid Genestealers are still on 25mm bases, and if they ever get into a massed close combat I need a crowbar to get them apart again, because all the overhanging arms and legs will be tangled up worse than a headphone cord storage place after an earthquake.

Neronoxx wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Wait, am I reading this right?

Sixty 32mm bases for £20.
Forty 25mm and 40mm for £20.
Eighteen 60mm, 75mm and 90mm bases for £20.

Those are all pretty damn cheap for moulded bases! The 32mm are 33p each! The last time I bought moulded bases were the resin 25mm bases from Anvil Industry which are £7 for 10 (70p) each.

These aren't limited edition are they?

It doesn't sound like it, no. Smart move indeed, backed up by better pricing. Hard to not like these.

The great irony is that we have gotten accustomed to super high prices for sculpted bases, presumably because they are relatively low volume (I think a lot of, or even a majority of, people don't even bother to dress bases up). I'd have to guess that I've spent a thousand bucks or more on sculpted bases in my lifetime, usually at around SWM prices -- something like US$1+ each for the smallest bases, and rapidly increasing in price for 40mm, 50mm, etc.

I am really happy about these being in plastic AND cheaper than the market price of bases. Plus, in intelligent quantities to be useful in GW-game size armies.

It's a very smart business move from GW (since they have the in house sculpting/tooling and production facilities that mean this is far cheaper for them than almost everybody else in the industry, and they're selling them at prices that undercut most of the alternatives

and it's actually going to do a bunch of damage to a lot of the smaller companies that also make lookey-likey stuff for gw minis that they would rather not exist (as steady sales of resin bases are a reliable income stream for a fair few of them)

so happy buyers as they get stuff that's easier to use than resin and cheaper than resin (and official for people stuck in the GW only meta)

and happy GW as they get sales, please the customers and give the minor industry players another subtle kick after the 32mm base change (as even if the change was not aimed at the resin base makers it will have annoyed GW seeing how fast 32mm resins appeared)

 Redemption wrote:
25mm bases are too small for a lot of models though. If I do a top down view of my Blood Angels Assault Marines on a 32mm base, they nicely fill the circle with little empty space and the only overhang is the occasional barrel or chainsword for the dramatic poses, which is as it should be imo.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, my Tyranid Genestealers are still on 25mm bases, and if they ever get into a massed close combat I need a crowbar to get them apart again, because all the overhanging arms and legs will be tangled up worse than a headphone cord storage place after an earthquake.

This. Heck, I'm considering rebasing my Dark Eldar and Necrons too. The positioning of the legs on Necron Warriors and Kabalites in particular, is a pain in the bum. Models in running poses and jump pack guys on 25mm also annoys me, as more often than not, they fall over. Sometimes resulting in damaged models. 32mm bases are a good thing IMO.

Yeah, 32mm bases were a godsend in every respect imo. They look better, fit most GW miniatures better, keep models from falling over and play better with widely posed models that get tangled up in close combat. 25mm bases were fine for 25mm metal models from yesteryear with tight poses, but nowadays I don't see much need for them outside smaller models like small critters, dwarfs, smaller humans and possibly slender elves, although elves/eldar tend to have those wide poses I was talking about and so benefit from a wider base. The two eleven characters in Silver Tower are extremely small and slender yet look great on a 32mm base. Harlequins would probably benefit as well. I've also based my entire Inquisimunda Warband, which consists of man-sized models, on 32s.

I have all my Bloodletters and Plaguebearers on 32mm bases, but I'm keeping my Daemonettes and Pink Horrors on 25mm. And going by Silver Tower basing, GW seems to be in agreement on the horror's base!!

Kid_Kyoto wrote:WAIT!

Stop everything!

Can an Apothacary give a crate Feel No Pain?

Can a psyker give them It Will Not Die?

Can they take the Mark of Nurgle for T8?

I demand a FAQ now!

Yes I need the FAQ now. As a Nid player I need to know now how this is going to Nerf us Nids. Heaven forbid we get anything nice.


Ok kidding aside now. How are these "jem paints" suppose to work? What is so good about them?

JohnnyHell wrote:So are shipping containers Battle Brothers or Allies of Convenient Next Day Delivery?

And can I use Amazon Prime to Deep Strike units into the containers?

BB for Space Marines or should I say Imperial of Man, AoC for Nids.

Apparently the gemstone paints can also be used as armour glazes:

Re: gemstone paints; apparently you just put down a layer of silver (they specify the new silver, conveniently released at the same time, but you should be able to use p.much any white metal) then put the gem paint over the top (looks like a moderately thick layer) and it sets to a glossy gem-like finish.
The images on the site indicate they might have found a gel medium with a fairly high RI so you get close to the same pattern of light and dark within as you get in an actual transparent droplet if the light is right.

Anyway it seems that "what they're good for" is gemstones in two passes instead of half a dozen at least, which is a massive improvement for anyone who has an elf infestation.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Re: gemstone paints; apparently you just put down a layer of silver (they specify the new silver, conveniently released at the same time, but you should be able to use p.much any white metal) then put the gem paint over the top (looks like a moderately thick layer) and it sets to a glossy gem-like finish.
The images on the site indicate they might have found a gel medium with a fairly high RI so you get close to the same pattern of light and dark within as you get in an actual transparent droplet if the light is right.

Anyway it seems that "what they're good for" is gemstones in two passes instead of half a dozen at least, which is a massive improvement for anyone who has an elf infestation.

It just looks similar to a clear to me, similar to Tamiya's clears. When you paint a clear over a metallic you get a candy effect, which when applied to a small convex surface tends to give a gem-like appearance.

Yep, probably. I honestly don't think these things are at all super revolutionary or anything but they're definitely nice to have in the range.

Is it just me or are the new paints unavailable to preorder in the UK from the GW website?

 RobertsMinis wrote:
Is it just me or are the new paints unavailable to preorder in the UK from the GW website?

Stormhost Silver and gem paints are temporarily out of stock. The other two new metals are available.

I pre-ordered all the base kits but missed the paints. Given that they aren't released in several days anyway, I will just wait and see when they will be restocked.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I have all my Bloodletters and Plaguebearers on 32mm bases, but I'm keeping my Daemonettes and Pink Horrors on 25mm. And going by Silver Tower basing, GW seems to be in agreement on the horror's base!!

Eh a lot of people on BGG though disagree, and our gaming group here also for the horrors. The ST book does have a lot of base misprints in it on what to use.

The pinks go on the 32mm provided as they fit much better. I would leave deamonettes on 25 though as they are thin

Love the look of the new paints. Have a lot of Khorne brass edging to paint and some nasty claggy brass paint I hate using. Will be snapping up the new brass asap. Also planning a Tau army and am thinking the blue gemstone paint will make for some quick and easy eye lenses.

I've found that a nice glossy yellow glaze over silver gives a great bright gold.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Re: gemstone paints; apparently you just put down a layer of silver (they specify the new silver, conveniently released at the same time, but you should be able to use p.much any white metal) then put the gem paint over the top (looks like a moderately thick layer) and it sets to a glossy gem-like finish.
The images on the site indicate they might have found a gel medium with a fairly high RI so you get close to the same pattern of light and dark within as you get in an actual transparent droplet if the light is right.

Anyway it seems that "what they're good for" is gemstones in two passes instead of half a dozen at least, which is a massive improvement for anyone who has an elf infestation.

Thank you very much for the explanation. Greatly appreciate it.

Is this the same paint-effect as the colored metallic armor used for 30k Alpha Legion and Thousand Sons?

No. The technique, at its simplest, uses a metallic base with a Tamiya clear paint airbrushed over. In this case, clear red