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**tneva82**

Azazelx wrote:
It's still going to be White Dwarf. It's essentially been advertainment since at least 1988.

But there is advertisement and there is advertisement.

One thing advertise the whole game. Another thing to just go on and on about latest product and how it should be bought.

One of the best article(series) they ever had IMO was the original tale of 4 gamer. Funny that it wasn't tied up to latest release though...But that was still very good ad for the GW games and made me itch starting my own army(still hope I could take part in something similar one day).

Another groovy article type was in early 2000's they had this guy from gaming club talk about various subjects. THAT was good type of content. It gave inspiration to start buying GW models but not by drilling over how newest release was so awesome but by making games sound FUN and provide INSPIRATION.

That's what WD should have rather than "oh buy this and this and this we just released. Come next week again to see what you should buy next week!".

**Talys**

Kilkrazy wrote:
Kriswall wrote:
I'm actually a little disappointed. My favorite part of White Dwark Weekly is the inevitable painting tutorial. If White Dwarf goes back to a monthly version, I'm likely to see my 4 potential tutorials per month drop back down to 1. This makes me sad. Given that the price per issue will go up, I'll be paying more per tutorial and having fewer available per year.

This is very bad news for people who bought White Dwarf mainly for the painting tutorials.

GW are doing more online stuff for painting now, aren't they?

Yeah, ironically, though it's not in WD, it's free content from GW. The GW painting tutorials online are top notch, and range from extremely beginner to reasonably advanced topics, including blending and working with FW resin models. And Duncan is a real champ.

WD and Visions mostly have Paint Splatter and Sprues & Glue (or whatever it's called), which are 90% beginner, 10% intermediate, IMO. A lot of it is "use this color and this brush and then that color and that brush", which is very helpful for people to achieve the studio look, especially if you're either starting out or new to GW paints and want an idea of what colors complement each other well. However, there's a gold mine in the other 10% -- everything from how GW bits fit/match, intermediate painting techniques, and sometimes, shortcuts that can be great timesavers.

**Bottle**

Generally I am not a fan of Paint Splatter becUse I feel it's just to get to tabletop standard, where-as I am trying to aim for a higher standard than that. I would prefer something more akin to the old 'Eavy Metal masterclass tutorials, or maybe something from the Army Painter team that everyone at Warhammer Fest raved about.

**Azazelx**

tneva82 wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
It's still going to be White Dwarf. It's essentially been advertainment since at least 1988.

But there is advertisement and there is advertisement.

One thing advertise the whole game. Another thing to just go on and on about latest product and how it should be bought.

One of the best article(series) they ever had IMO was the original tale of 4 gamer. Funny that it wasn't tied up to latest release though...But that was still very good ad for the GW games and made me itch starting my own army(still hope I could take part in something similar one day).

Another groovy article type was in early 2000's they had this guy from gaming club talk about various subjects. THAT was good type of content. It gave inspiration to start buying GW models but not by drilling over how newest release was so awesome but by making games sound FUN and provide INSPIRATION.

That's what WD should have rather than "oh buy this and this and this we just released. Come next week again to see what you should buy next week!".

Actually, I agree with all of the examples you've given here. (note my sig).

My point was much more that since (at least) around issue 95 or so when I started buying it, people have been making the exact same complaints about how the magazine has been becoming much more of an advertisement than in "the past". If you look through the early-RT-era issues and even the Paul Sawyer-era issues (which includes the To4G) there's tons of "new release, but it now!" stuff. I think it's safe to say the trend started quite a bit earlier than those issues (SOD OFF BRYAN ANSELL is rather telling, after all). Not to mention that WHFB was created entirely as a way to sell more Citadel Miniatures.

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Bottle wrote:
Generally I am not a fan of Paint Splatter becUse I feel it's just to get to tabletop standard, where-as I am trying to aim for a higher standard than that. I would prefer something more akin to the old 'Eavy Metal masterclass tutorials, or maybe something from the Army Painter team that everyone at Warhammer Fest raved about.

Agreed on this. 'eavy Metal used to have some amazing tutorials that simply utilised line drawings to get across the concepts before they went full-colour with more photographs. Paint Splatter just ain't in the same league.

**tneva82**

Azazelx wrote:

My point was much more that since (at least) around issue 95 or so when I started buying it, people have been making the exact same complaints about how the magazine has been becoming much more of an advertisement than in "the past". If you look through the early-RT-era issues and even the Paul Sawyer-era issues (which includes the To4G) there's tons of "new release, but it now!" stuff. I think it's safe to say the trend started quite a bit earlier than those issues (SOD OFF BRYAN ANSELL is rather telling, after all). Not to mention that WHFB was created entirely as a way to sell more Citadel Miniatures.

Yes but still there's scale difference. Just because there were some didn't mean it was all.

Good luck finding To4G in the weekly WD...

**Azazelx**

I've got about 8 of the weekly ones, which includes the 6 I got for $2 each from a game store a couple of weeks ago - mostly for the miniature photography in print. I had almost all of the monthly mag from 90-something to the finale.

I'm keen to see if they can roll it back to something decent as well.

**RoperPG**

Bottle wrote:
Generally I am not a fan of Paint Splatter becUse I feel it's just to get to tabletop standard, where-as I am trying to aim for a higher standard than that. I would prefer something more akin to the old 'Eavy Metal masterclass tutorials, or maybe something from the Army Painter team that everyone at Warhammer Fest raved about.

This. Some of the quality of painting makes me howl. Should be aspirational.
When you can have an army of the month that is basically drybrushing... Ugh.

**unmercifulconker**

I'd take one monthly eavy metal masterclass over 4 weekly paint splatters any day. I love paint splatter but many tutorials are from their youtube page now.

**Abadabadoobaddon**

Maybe they could take this opportunity to rename it something more IPable? Like White Duardin? Or even better, White Fyreslayer! Then the debut issue could feature their new naked mascot. IMHO White Dwarf just doesn't feel right anymore given the direction the comany has taken.

**casvalremdeikun**

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Maybe they could take this opportunity to rename it something more IPable? Like White Duardin? Or even better, White Fyreslayer! Then the debut issue could feature their new naked mascot. IMHO White Dwarf just doesn't feel right anymore given the direction the comany has taken.

Don't be ridiculous, it'll be Ceramite Duardin. Maximum IP!

**reds8n**

via FB

So, after yesterday’s announcement, it seems there are a few questions some of of you are asking. Well, here’s the info…
1. What’s the price of the new White Dwarf?
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UK £5.99 | Euro €8 | Poland 30zł | Switzerland 14CHF | Sweden 70kr | Norway 65kr | Denmark 60kr
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2. Will there be a digital edition?
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3. Will I be able to get White Dwarf in my local newsagents?
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4. What languages will the new White Dwarf be published in?
English, French and German.

**General Kroll**

Great news that's it's going to be in News agents again.

**aracersss**

no spain version anymore :c

**Korinov**

From the very same crowd who went from "everything is fine, nothing is broken" to "God bless Rountree for changing the ways of GW" in the span of two years...

Now after two years of "WD going weekly is great because it's cheaper and you can choose what you want, etc" we get "Good for GW to go back to the old ways. Rountree FTW!".

aracersss wrote:
no spain version anymore :c

I wonder how many magazines they expect to sell around here, without a spanish translation and with a new price hike.

**Warhams-77**

Didnt they axe spanish and italian WDs during the last change (2014)?

Has anyone with a Visions or WD subscription been contacted by GW?

**H.B.M.C.**

When I started buying WD is was AUD$5.99, then it went to $10 when it became 'Fat Dwarf', and then stayed at $10 when they went back to the original size. Now it'll be AUD$15.

Good for them I guess.

**General Kroll**

£5.99 seems about standard for a glossy monthly magazine here.

**ImAGeek**

Korinov wrote:
From the very same crowd who went from "everything is fine, nothing is broken" to "God bless Rountree for changing the ways of GW" in the span of two years...

Now after two years of "WD going weekly is great because it's cheaper and you can choose what you want, etc" we get "Good for GW to go back to the old ways. Rountree FTW!".

aracersss wrote:
no spain version anymore :c

I wonder how many magazines they expect to sell around here, without a spanish translation and with a new price hike.

You do realise that the forums aren't a hive mind right? It's not the same people saying weekly WD was better now saying good for going back to the monthly one. Different people have different opinions.

**RazorEdge**

Warhams-77 wrote:
Didnt they axe spanish and italian WDs during the last change (2014)?

Has anyone with a Visions or WD subscription been contacted by GW?

Italian & Spanish WD were axed in Feb 2014 when they turned to weekly and Vision.

**Thud**

I really want this to be good.

**angelofvengeance**

Korinov wrote:
From the very same crowd who went from "everything is fine, nothing is broken" to "God bless Rountree for changing the ways of GW" in the span of two years...

Now after two years of "WD going weekly is great because it's cheaper and you can choose what you want, etc" we get "Good for GW to go back to the old ways. Rountree FTW!".

Monthly printing is probably a good bit cheaper than weekly at a guess.

Also, I preferred it when WD was in .ePub and .mobi as you could tap on the images and get a better look at what was being done in the Paint Splatter bit. I think the Paint Splatter was not bad, but not great either. I think you kind of have to make a compromise though as not everyone is an 'Eavy Metal Golden Demon level painter, and it can be a real challenge to get a decent result. So doing stuff that is achievable is better all round.

It wouldn't hurt to see some advanced stuff either though, I'll admit.

**Mymearan**

Wait... There is a special "introductory price" going on for the 12-month subscription. Yet that special price only gives you two free issues compared to buying them individually. So what's the "normal" subscription price? Exactly the same as retail?

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Korinov wrote:
From the very same crowd who went from "everything is fine, nothing is broken" to "God bless Rountree for changing the ways of GW" in the span of two years...

Now after two years of "WD going weekly is great because it's cheaper and you can choose what you want, etc" we get "Good for GW to go back to the old ways. Rountree FTW!".

aracersss wrote:
no spain version anymore :c

I wonder how many magazines they expect to sell around here, without a spanish translation and with a new price hike.

Spanish people suck at english and should just git gud or git out. And I say this as a half-Spanish person.

**Abadabadoobaddon**

Mymearan wrote:
Wait... There is a special "introductory price" going on for the 12-month subscription. Yet that special price only gives you two free issues compared to buying them individually. So what's the "normal" subscription price? Exactly the same as retail?

I would guess yes, same as retail. GW generally do not give discounts for bundles.

**adamsouza**

I remember getting a Free Gorkamorka Game with my $50 White Dwarf Subscription. Then it was a Free Bike priced set of miniatures of your choice with subscription.

It’s Back! White Dwarf is returning as a monthly magazine and it’s bigger and better than ever before!

From September, White Dwarf will be back as a glossy 156-page, A4 magazine with all the news, features and pictorials you know and love – and a whole chunk of new stuff you never imagined. News! Golden Demon! Battle Reports! Painting Masterclasses! Designers Notes! Exclusive games and rulesets! And of course, gorgeous photographs of the best fantasy miniatures in the world.

The first issue is out on Friday 2nd September and comes with our most amazing cover mount ever – a special gift to you to celebrate the glorious return of monthly White Dwarf.

Subscribe before 14 August and get an exclusive pre-launch price – and subscribers get their copies mailed early.

Please note, product image is for illustrative purposes only. Not actual cover of September 2016 issue.

I wonder what's coming stuck to the cover of issue 1 ?

**General Kroll**

adamsouza wrote:
I remember getting a Free Gorkamorka Game with my $50 White Dwarf Subscription. Then it was a Free Bike priced set of miniatures of your choice with subscription.

It’s Back! White Dwarf is returning as a monthly magazine and it’s bigger and better than ever before!

From September, White Dwarf will be back as a glossy 156-page, A4 magazine with all the news, features and pictorials you know and love – and a whole chunk of new stuff you never imagined. News! Golden Demon! Battle Reports! Painting Masterclasses! Designers Notes! Exclusive games and rulesets! And of course, gorgeous photographs of the best fantasy miniatures in the world.

The first issue is out on Friday 2nd September and comes with our most amazing cover mount ever – a special gift to you to celebrate the glorious return of monthly White Dwarf.

Subscribe before 14 August and get an exclusive pre-launch price – and subscribers get their copies mailed early.

Please note, product image is for illustrative purposes only. Not actual cover of September 2016 issue.

I wonder what's coming stuck to the cover of issue 1 ?

Daemon Magnus of course

**Ragnar69**

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Mymearan wrote:
Wait... There is a special "introductory price" going on for the 12-month subscription. Yet that special price only gives you two free issues compared to buying them individually. So what's the "normal" subscription price? Exactly the same as retail?

I would guess yes, same as retail. GW generally do not give discounts for bundles.

The Euro early bird price is nearly 4 free issues, 65€ compared to 96€ retail
Good enough deal for me to subscribe.

**Byte**

Korinov wrote:
From the very same crowd who went from "everything is fine, nothing is broken" to "God bless Rountree for changing the ways of GW" in the span of two years...

Now after two years of "WD going weekly is great because it's cheaper and you can choose what you want, etc" we get "Good for GW to go back to the old ways. Rountree FTW!".

aracersss wrote:
no spain version anymore :c

I wonder how many magazines they expect to sell around here, without a spanish translation and with a new price hike.

I never said I liked the weekly WD or everything is right with GW. Be careful with generalitions, it demonstrates your IQ.

**Davor**

Azazelx wrote:
Davor wrote:
I don't want to feel like I am paying for advertisement, where GW should be paying for advertisement, not us. I will hold off and wait and see. I want to buy a magazine on the hobby, not an advertisement about the products.

It's still going to be White Dwarf. It's essentially been advertainment since at least 1988.

I know that, but at least it didn't feel like it like it did in the early 2000's. Before I felt like I was buying a hobby magazine for GW. While they were both the same, it's how they do it that makes the person buying or at least me not feeling like a sucker for buying it.

I mean, "SUCKER buying our advertising HURH HURH!" That is how I feel like. These are things that GW should be giving away for free or they should be paying for their own advertising. This is one of the reasons why people swear GW would charge you for the air we breathe when in their stores.

**filbert**

Well I cancelled my sub when WD went weekly and existing subs were converted to Visions subs but now WD is back monthly, I may consider picking the sub up again. I expect fairly little from it - WD has never been the finest of literature, not for a long time, but it is a decent enough read for half an hour every month or so for me.

**Davor**

Promethius wrote:
I'm going to get a subscription, this is very welcome news. I have to say I like visions but more as a coffee table magazine than for reading. It's sometimes nice to just see page after page of well painted and converted models for inspiration and without having to hunt through various project threads on the internet

And that is what we have been asking for. Change. Try new things. If it doesn't work, keep changing and keep trying. At least we can see that Mr Roundtree is trying innovation or I should say, change at least now instead of Age of Kirby "do as little as possible and charge as much as possible".