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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 06:41:42
Subject: Warning and Suppressive fire
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Mimetic Bagh-Mari
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I'm just curious what the consensus is when using Warning! While a model is in Suppressive Fire mode.
When the model changes it's facing from Warning! Does it unleash suppressive fire on the model that shot it or for that matter the if a friendly was hit in its ZOC.
In this example I'm mainly concerned with using the new Ulan model so guts check isn't really an issue. But either way.
Does the attacker take suppressive fire in the face?
Is there's a topic for rules questions set up ?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/07/19 06:52:47
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 06:58:53
Subject: Warning and Suppressive fire
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Warning! is always performed at the end of the Order, in
the Conclusion, after the ARM/ BTS Rolls.
»»As Warning! is performed at the Conclusion of the Order, it
doesn’t generate an ARO.
p45 N3 rulebook.
So as it's at the END of the order, after all hit and armour/bts rolls are done, no, it won't take suppressive fire to the face.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 07:51:33
Subject: Warning and Suppressive fire
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Guts roll and warning happen at the end of the order after the dice rolls happen and do not generate an ARO.
It is worth noting that warning and guts rolls are neither an order nor an ARO.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 10:22:53
Subject: Warning and Suppressive fire
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Mimetic Bagh-Mari
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chromedog wrote:Warning! is always performed at the end of the Order, in
the Conclusion, after the ARM/ BTS Rolls.
»»As Warning! is performed at the Conclusion of the Order, it
doesn’t generate an ARO.
p45 N3 rulebook.
So as it's at the END of the order, after all hit and armour/ bts rolls are done, no, it won't take suppressive fire to the face.
Ok Cool Thanks Guys
So it gives me that "Next Order used on him" suppressive fire to the face.
I can't wait to run the Ulan its "The model" I've been waiting for and I'm not disappointed. Any Suggestions on how to get 2 and loose the Tik?
Been reading This such a great thread
http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/43025-a-primer-on-tactical-armoured-gear-operations/
Thanks for the Help guys
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/07/19 10:26:57
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 22:10:54
Subject: Warning and Suppressive fire
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Swap with a mate?
I don't have the box yet (but when I do, I will be evaluating the chances of converting the tik across to a second uhlan (all depends on whether the uhlan bits will fit on the tik chassis - like the dragao/jotum - or not)
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 23:14:36
Subject: Re:Warning and Suppressive fire
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Doesn't change facing break the model's suppression fire status?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/20 00:19:38
Subject: Warning and Suppressive fire
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Yup.
Shoot at him from outside of LoF or range (suppressive fire has a 24" max range). They either eat the shot or drop suppression in order to declare any another ARO.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/22 00:46:57
Subject: Warning and Suppressive fire
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Mimetic Bagh-Mari
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"Also of note, use of Warning! to re-position the TAG without breaking suppression fire. Because of remote presence and their high armour values TAGS are particularly good at utilising the Warning! rule to turn and re-position themselves to face an enemy buy ignoring the initial attack and then kill the enemy unit in its next order."
from Daboarder's
A primer on Tactical Armoured Gear operations
So once you perform warning with a TAG like the Uhlan if the model that shot you opens himself up for an ARO you get suppressive fire.
Between the smaller size, nice statline, camo, versatile weapons at 100 a piece I'm really digging the Uhlan
I might buy 2 boxes and chop it all to bitz and rebuild 2 sick Uhlans.
Tag Heavy
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UHLAN HMG, Feuerbach / . (2 | 99)
UHLAN HMG, Feuerbach / . (2 | 99)
MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
MULEBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
MULEBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
4.5 SWC | 298 Points
Open in Infinity Army
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2016/07/22 01:01:09
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/24 18:30:01
Subject: Warning and Suppressive fire
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[DCM]
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That list looks familiar...
...who is your Lt.?
I'm guessing one of the Fusiliers, but...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/24 18:51:17
Subject: Warning and Suppressive fire
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Alpharius wrote:That list looks familiar...
...who is your Lt.?
I'm guessing one of the Fusiliers, but...
It would have to be a Fusilier. Uhlans don't have a Lieutenant option like the Squalo does.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/25 19:34:10
Subject: Re:Warning and Suppressive fire
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Hacking Interventor
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Don't forget: there are only ten troopers per combat group allowed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/25 21:23:03
Subject: Re:Warning and Suppressive fire
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Mimetic Bagh-Mari
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Oh Snap!
Ok so loose the journalist...
A fusilier is Lt. I figure a hacker, a couple of repeaters, Engineer and some palbots as support, Forward observer
I have a few ideas on tactics. I think its really going to be a learn to play with what I like the most thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/25 23:02:18
Subject: Warning and Suppressive fire
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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You really need a hacker, without exorcise your opponent will have a field day with the TAGs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/26 03:49:01
Subject: Warning and Suppressive fire
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Mimetic Bagh-Mari
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PsychoticStorm wrote:You really need a hacker, without exorcise your opponent will have a field day with the TAGs
Neoterran Capitaline Army
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FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
0.5 SWC | 18 Points
Open in Infinity Army
This Hackers not so hot .... Any Suggestions?
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