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2017/04/05 10:54:48
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
Compel wrote: I kinda agree, Deep Space Nine should be the darkest and grittiest that Star Trek should get. - And lets not forget, DS9 can get VERY dark and gritty...
However, DS9 was dark and gritty with a point. Star Trek doesn't work if it doesn't have a point to it.
I had a theory about these points of Star Trek before.
Star Trek (The Original Series): It shows the viewers, the watchers an idea of the possibility that humanity can be good. A good man, almost
Star Trek The Next Generation: It explores further the idea of "what does a Good Man look like?"
Deep Space 9: "We know what a Good Man looks like, what does it take to become one? How do you live as one in a complex world?"
Star Trek stories are morality tales, that's their function. To make them dark and gritty... It's missing the point, unless they really are trying something like, "The Siege of AR-558" or "In the Pale Moonlight" where the point of them was to ask the questions, not necessarily provide the answers. And even then, to base a whole series around that, I don't think it works.
Actually STOS was Wagon Train in space. The Federation had moved beyond straight human racism but not anything else in reality.
STNG was almost "lets present this weird Anglo Saxon future where everyone has a stick up their butt." Spock was more human then they were. Klingons were cool though.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2017/04/17 18:45:18
Subject: Re:Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
CBS’s next chapter of the Star Trek universe continues to be a spot of ongoing discussion and hand-wringing. Star Trek: Discovery will launch on CBS’s “All Access” streaming service, sort of their version of ‘on demand’.
The series has been in development for some time now, and has already changed showrunners, passing from the guidance of Bryan Fuller (still listed as a co-creator) to Alex Kurtzman. The release date for the series has also ping-ponged back and forth from an original release date of January 2017 to May 2017, with the latest news being that CBS isn’t married to that date either.
Marc DeBevoise (who oversees CBS All-Access) did an interview with Vulture, and was asked about the new delays regarding the release of Discovery:
Vulture: I have to ask you about Star Trek: Discovery. It’s been delayed a bit, and you parted ways with Bryan Fuller. You still haven’t announced a premiere date, or even a launch window. Where is that right now? And how big of deal is that going to be?
DeBevoise: It’s going great, I’ve actually been up there [to the set]. It is, you know, phenomenal. It is huge. And we’re very excited about the content, the creators, the actors, all coming together. As you said, we’re not tied to any specific release date. It’ll be there when we’re ready to do it, and when we feel it’s in a great place. We’re not worried about anything here. We’re excited, and we’ll have more specifics as we get closer to what will likely be the release dates.
Vulture: Is it likely going to be the fall?
DeBevoise: We’re not stating.
That’s…..disappointing. Not really surprising at this point because if *I* were CBS, I would want to make DAMN sure the finished product was as polished as it possibly could be. Trek fans are notoriously unforgiving when something new appears in their space, and if early reports of the show are to be believed, there may have been some big time changes that had to happen.
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2017/04/17 19:01:00
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
Despite the lack of a duranium air date for CBS’s ALL ACCESS series Star Trek: Discovery, it seems the new ship in the quadrant is moving ever forward. There were no less than FIVE new names added to the cast list, including a familiar visage from Battlestar Galactica.
Rekha Sharma who fans of BSG (reimagined) will remember as Tory Foster, personal assistant to President Laura Roslin, and maybe-possibly not a human. (Sorry to those of you who HAVEN’T finished the series or gotten to the Final Five reveal.) Sharma actually HAS some recent Star Trek experience, appearing in an episode of the fan production Star Trek: Continues. For Discovery, she’ll be stepping into the role of Commander Landry, the security officer aboard the title ship.
There was also the reveal that Shazad Latif (Penny Dreadful) is NO LONGER playing Klingon commanding officer Kol, and instead will be playing Kolto Lieutenant Tyler, a Starfleet officer in the Federation. Kenneth Mitchell (Jericho, Miracle) will be stepping into the role of Kol.
We have more Klingons off the starboard bow, with newcomer Clare McConnell and Damon Runyan (Lost Girl, Haven) announced as Dennas and Ujilli, leaders in the Klingon Empire.
These folks will join previously announced cast that includes Sonequa Martin-Green (The Walking Dead) who will star as the lead lieutenant commander, James Frain as Spock’s father Sarek, Anthony Rapp as a space fungus expert, and Michelle Yeoh as the captain in charge of the Starship Shenzhou.
Jason Isaacs as the captain of the Discovery, Terry Serpico as Admiral Anderson, a high-ranking official of Starfleet; Maulik Pancholy as Dr. Nambue, the chief medical officer of the Starship Shenzhou, Sam Vartholomeos as Ensign Connor, a junior officer in Starfleet Academy assigned to the Starship Shenzhou, Doug Jones as Lt. Saru (brand new alien), and Rainn Wilson as original series Star Trek character Harry Mudd. No word yet on his women.
Star Trek: Discovery will feature a new ship, new characters and new missions in across the galaxy. The series will premiere on the CBS with all subsequent episodes available on CBS All Access. It is produced by CBS Television Studios in association with Alex Kurtzman’s Secret Hideout, Bryan Fuller’s Living Dead Guy Productions and Roddenberry Entertainment. EPs are Alex Kurtzman, Bryan Fuller, Heather Kadin, Gretchen J. Berg & Aaron Harberts, Akiva Goldsman, Rod Roddenberry and Trevor Roth.
In this piece over on Io9, CBS interactive CEO Jim Lanzone said this about the new Star Trek show:
“Scifi is not something that has traditionally done really well on broadcast. It’s not impossible, for the future, if somebody figures it out. And things like Lost and Heroes have had parts of, you know, scifi, but historically, a show like Star Trek wouldn’t necessarily be a broadcast show, at this point. And so, you kind of look at the other networks we have, CW and Showtime, it just fit with the digital audience and having that digital Star Trek audience.”
We’ll let you know when other breaking Star Trek: Discovery information is made public. You know, like an actual release date.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2017/05/17 19:59:23
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
A pic of Michelle Yeoh and Sonequa Martin-Green gives me a little bit of hope where I had none before. I'm still not sold but I'm no longer firmly in the "we're doomed" camp.
2017/05/17 20:43:12
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
Odd image to show off at this time, wouldn't have been my first choice. But it looks good for what it is.
edit: more new images surfacing on twitter
Uniforms look like a mix of the blue utility style of ENT and the other series. Bridge looks cool but a bit cold and less colorful, still pretty cool though.
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2017/05/17 22:22:12
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
Looks like theres a new better first look at this show.
IMO, I think it looks good, despite two unfortunate elements: the initials, and that it's the CBS online thingy 'only' instead of TV
I'm honestly debating on paying for the CBS thing, just to support the show. If the show doesn't make money then these characters and the story will never have a chance to develop and become something more. For me Star Trek is special and I think it deserves a chance. Fantasy has kind of reigned throughout the past few years on tv with GOT and stuff but I think it's time for that to come to a close. There is still a chance this won't even last as long as ENT. I am glad that Fox isn't behind the show cause then i'd never bother to get invested in it, probably get canceled before the 1st season finishes airing.
This trailer also didn't show the ship and characters I was most excited for, such as jason isaacs, sharma etc and more klingons. I bet the show will shift into gear when they get onto the Discovery and the cast changes slightly. Because I didn't feel anything from the crew in the trailer.
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2017/05/18 06:03:36
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
This seems like Backwards Trek to me; the visuals and effects are all there for once, but in that trailer at least there's no sense of substance beyond 'Klingons are bad' and 'First Officer who argues with the Captain'. I really want this to be good, but I'm not willing to trust it just yet.
2017/05/18 10:41:45
Subject: Re:Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Is there any word on why this is another prequel?
Between Enterprise the the Reboot ST has been wallowing in the 'past' for 15 years (20?).
Which is not the way to go if you're working on a series that will 'boldly go where no one has gone before'.
Unlike most other franchises ST has a mission statement - beyond make a lot of money that is.
Is there anything they're doing in this show that mean it can't be set 20 years after Voyager?
So true. I think it's time for a post-apocalyptic trek. The Federation has fallen, either to internal war, or alien invasion (probably both). In an isolated arm of whichever quadrant, a remnant based out of a research station begins to build the trust and peace the galaxy needs once more, one system at a time. This should open the door to even more mixed tech ships, diplomatic incidents a plenty, the crew being inadvertently turned into mercenaries as they attempt to secure alliances, and all sorts of shenanigans with minor factions who suddenly can't be ignored. Maybe even have the story follow a pair of vessels- a research ship with a scientifically minded, idealistic captain, and its escorting warship, with a grizzled veteran of the lost war, probably with PTSD.
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
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2017/05/18 12:18:09
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Is there any word on why this is another prequel?
Between Enterprise the the Reboot ST has been wallowing in the 'past' for 15 years (20?).
Which is not the way to go if you're working on a series that will 'boldly go where no one has gone before'.
Unlike most other franchises ST has a mission statement - beyond make a lot of money that is.
Is there anything they're doing in this show that mean it can't be set 20 years after Voyager?
As long as the movie reboot series is going on(and doing big stuff like blowing up Vulcan) I doubt we will see anything on TV set after or even at the same time as Kirk and co.
2017/05/18 20:03:42
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
As Rusty the Mountain Dog says to a bath NOPE NOPE NOPE
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2017/05/19 01:30:17
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
As long as the movie reboot series is going on(and doing big stuff like blowing up Vulcan) I doubt we will see anything on TV set after or even at the same time as Kirk and co.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they were now seperate continuities and companies. CBS has TV rights, Paramount has movie rights hence the reboot-verse. So anything for TV should be original flavor ST, not that zesty ranch lens flare reboot.
2017/05/19 04:01:39
Subject: Re:Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they were now seperate continuities and companies. CBS has TV rights, Paramount has movie rights hence the reboot-verse. So anything for TV should be original flavor ST, not that zesty ranch lens flare reboot.
Yeah, the series is a separate continuity to the movies.
I suspect that they'll still try to stay away from the movie timeline, to avoid confusion.
2017/05/19 04:08:03
Subject: Star Trek: Discovery -- new teaser page 6
Ship design
Choice of network release
Choice of prequel setting
It's looking a lot more like a complete waste of time. I refuse to pay for a network simply to watch a show I will wind up being dissatisfied with.
While we're at it, I could have sworn that Sarek was never IN Starfleet, and was only ever on a ship to be escorted to diplomatic plot point Epsilon every so often. How are they going to explain that?
EDIT: Just saw the newest trailer, looks a little better, and it also looks like the ship design is improved. May reevaluate.
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