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A polite request to use spoiler tags for large images, it buggers the page view on mobile something chronic.

Especially if you're just requoting to add one line.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I wonder, is there anything preventing a Blackshield from taking a Storm Shield alongside his giant Hammer? Because that dude will be expensive but lay waste to anything in his way, especially if you get him invisible. I am thinking that upgrading every Kill Team to have a Blackshield will be a fun tactic.

If the vanguards/bikes can have their single model upgraded to the black shield, you can also then get him good mobility to go with it. Can cause enough damage to be a threat, but firing at it is gonna be a massive bit of overkill.

Is there already a list with all the units in the deatwatch codex?

1st page has a collection of everything from this thread. Formations, wargear, units, etc.

 Wolfblade wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I wonder, is there anything preventing a Blackshield from taking a Storm Shield alongside his giant Hammer? Because that dude will be expensive but lay waste to anything in his way, especially if you get him invisible. I am thinking that upgrading every Kill Team to have a Blackshield will be a fun tactic.

If the vanguards/bikes can have their single model upgraded to the black shield, you can also then get him good mobility to go with it. Can cause enough damage to be a threat, but firing at it is gonna be a massive bit of overkill.

I think it's uncertain if he can take any wargear at all other than the dual power swords but the heavy thunder hammer is a two handed weapon doesn't the storm shield take place of a weapon?

No it simply prevents gaining a bonus attack from 2 ccws. (iirc)

It may be listed something like:
Any veteran may replace his bolter or close combat weapon with storm shield, power fist etc
Any veteran may replace his bolter AND close combat weapon with a heavy thunder hammer
To stop HTH and storm shield shenanigans

Then I will just make a Watch Captain with the Hammer and Shield since he has around the same number of attacks, but Storm Shields are additive instead of replacing something. Or a Watch Master.

This...actually looks tempting. I've always been a fan of Inquisition related forces, and I wouldn't mind having a small, elite style army to complement my Guard. Plus, I could run an Inq/IN BFG fleet with Deathwatch kill teams on all my ships.

And that flyer is actually cool looking. I think I may have to give GW some of my money in the not so distant future.

I splurged heavily into this release already. My wallet is screaming "no more!" This initial release plus all the cool stuff that is to follow(flyer, character, and probably the upgrade sprue itself) is going to be rough.
I can only sell so much plasma and streetside services to afford whats to come.

Has anyone found the rules for the Death Masque Deathwatch units? I know Harlequins are out there now, but shockingly no one is leaking the Deathwatch units.

Got a set on preorder... Super excited to start building my Deathwatch army.

Have any of you started thinking about how to kit out your squads (Veterans, Vanguards, Termies)?

Thinking of starting a harlequin army, if I can get some of the xenos side of this box cheap enough a few times. Possible to make a good army from that?

 Mymearan wrote:
Got a set on preorder... Super excited to start building my Deathwatch army.

Have any of you started thinking about how to kit out your squads (Veterans, Vanguards, Termies)?

I'm thinking I'll be incorporating these guys with the DW:OK models into loose Tactical, Assault and Devastator type squads to cover all the bases, thus:

Tactical get the DA and IH from Overkill, the rest with Bolters, maybe combis if I have the parts. Assault are the two JP guys from OK with 2 BP/CCW Vanguard and a Heavy Thunder Hammer, Devastators gets the UM as a Sergeant, the IF with the Frag Cannon and then another Frag and 2xHeavy Bolter-Flamers. Gives me 3 nice, focused squads that can work well in concert or be plugged into other forces to cover any shortfalls they might have.

That also leaves me 2 guys left over, from which may get used to jazz up some old Ravenwing bikes to ride as DW with the OK White Scar.

 Lockark wrote:
Thinking of starting a harlequin army, if I can get some of the xenos side of this box cheap enough a few times. Possible to make a good army from that?

I'm looking to start a Deathwatch force and I noticed you live in Edmonton. I'd be happy to split the box with you.

I have all the harlequin related formations and rules I could post if they haven't been already.

 Lockark wrote:
Thinking of starting a harlequin army, if I can get some of the xenos side of this box cheap enough a few times. Possible to make a good army from that?

We're getting 3 sets and my wife is able to make a 2k point Cegorach's Revenge formation by proxying the Eldrads as Shadowseers and adding a Solitaire.

 hiveof_chimera wrote:
I have all the harlequin related formations and rules I could post if they haven't been already.

Get back to me when you have all of the Death Masque Deathwatch stuff

I think I am going to modify several of my DW:OK Marines. The BA is going to lose his hand Flamer and gain a bolt pistol and possibly a Power Sword in place of his chainsword. Some of the other kill team members will be getting turned into Bolter and Bolt Pistol.

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but this was posted on the Warhammer 40k facebook page: http://www.freebootersnetwork.com/2016/08/05/40k-radio-special-report-codex-deathwatch/

Thanks Enzyme will check it out.

I'm listening to it now. I like how GW is actually talking about stuff now. I found it linked somewhere else though. Ah yeah they cite the rpg as a major inspiration. Even though FFG is now moving to be an enemy of GW I got to thank them. If it wasn't for the popularity of that rpg I don't think we would have seen the DW codex. I also got to thank GW for putting up a podcast with the designers talking. I love listening to this and their though process.

After staring at the sprue pictures for longer than is probably healthy, I almost want to buy some of these guys just to figure out how they've been cast.

Going by the pics, I can only assume that GW have upgraded their plastic casting technology... because some of those details (the inset discs on the ankles, and the script around Artemis' left wrist, for example) look like they shouldn't be possible with the 'traditional' methods GW have used for the last 20 years or so...

Listened to that interview. It was interstesting but it has me confused about GW's process. In both this and the silver tower interview it was mentioned that it was a miniatures first project. So how do they decide what miniatures to sculpt?

GW's models have been getting increasingly detailed. Their Tau release and their Age of Sigmar releases are simply stunning. I'm not too familiar with the other 40k releases between Tau and now so I can't comment. So far though these DW look to continue that exceptional level of detail that GW is so quickly setting the standard for.

They probably look at the DW rpg. Also before any physical modelling is done I can only imagine they have a sit down and do some brain storming and rough concept art. Since on ATT there are pictures from decades old concept art when they were trying to figure out how the Tau would look.

Can we use our fancy 30th Ed. marine with them? Seems like he would fit right in. Mine is already painted Deathwatch colors.
What about the different terminator armor marks?

 Azazelx wrote:
Found and added - and yes, any "raptor head" chapter. Could even use it for the Mentor Legion, but I prefer the original owl-head chapter-badge.

I want rules for Mentor Legion so bad! The old RT rules from WD were really cool, and characterful. THe old Owl head was boss, I have no idea why they changed that...

I think the Overkill models were cooler although some of the heavy weapon and Terminator stuff I see here along with the flyers look very tempting. All the new AoS stuff is so incredible, and it a tiny bit of a bummer to see some of the sculpts for new 40k releases don't seem to have stepped up to quite the same level...

All the same, very excited for the upcoming releases!

 ThirstySpaceMan wrote:
Can we use our fancy 30th Ed. marine with them? Seems like he would fit right in. Mine is already painted Deathwatch colors.
What about the different terminator armor marks?

Nope. All of the Deathwatch datasheets are going to be for Veterans, not Space Marines, so they wouldn't have a model to switch out. As of right now, there is no indication that they can use Cataphractii Armor. It would be cool though. I would totally make a Watch Captain in Cataphractii Armor and give him a Heavy Thunder Hammer.

 ThirstySpaceMan wrote:
Can we use our fancy 30th Ed. marine with them? Seems like he would fit right in. Mine is already painted Deathwatch colors.

He replaces a "Space Marine". I believe these guys are all "Veteran Space Marine". I do agree that he'd fit in, though. They should have point costed him as an upgrade in the army. That would have been sweet. I guess it wouldn't have been fair though, limited edition figure and all that, I guess you can't put that in the codex.

Got to save something for next time ladies and gents. My Apothecary player and Techmarine/Forgemaster player are annoyed when I told them they didn't get GW models.

So for sure I want to see those as options. Perhaps some more cool high tech gear. Maybe a new DW exclusive variant of power armor to show just how badass their weaponry is. I imagine next time we get models for the DW they will hopefully include another two dozen chapter pauldrons since I want one for Blood Ravens in there without needing to go to great lengths to get it from the internet or buying Spacehulk.

At the very least the 30th anniversary guy could be a veteran with a combi-weapon or something if you really wanted him to be.

My question is if they can take the Warhammer World exclusive command tanks, I have a set lying around that I'm hoping to use somewhere.