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sirlynchmob wrote:


who da F is dumb enough to fall for those tactics so that they assault a 69 year old woman? trumpers of course. yes it's bad to pull childish things like that, but it's criminal to assault a 69 year old woman to the cheering of the crowds?

Of course. And its also bad and possibly criminal to recruit vulnerable people with the aim of sending them to your opponents' rallies with the expectation that they will be attacked. Hell, its even a desired outcome according to the people in the video.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:


who da F is dumb enough to fall for those tactics so that they assault a 69 year old woman? trumpers of course. yes it's bad to pull childish things like that, but it's criminal to assault a 69 year old woman to the cheering of the crowds?

Of course. And its also bad and possibly criminal to recruit vulnerable people with the aim of sending them to your opponents' rallies with the expectation that they will be attacked. Hell, its even a desired outcome according to the people in the video.

Now if only trumpers were in any way moral or decent human beings, then this tactic wouldn't work at all. It's sad to see them lowering themselves to sink below expectations.

sirlynchmob wrote:
Now if only trumpers were in any way moral or decent human beings, then this tactic wouldn't work at all. It's sad to see them lowering themselves to sink below expectations.

If that already applied to them than they probably already wouldn't be Trump supporters.

Anybody who dismisses the video I posted because "hur, he's a youtuber with political views I disagree with so I'm going to dismiss it outright and not even bother to watch it and assess the evidence prestented in the video" is missing the point. I posted it not to share the Youtuber's thoughts on the matter, but because it has a compilation of hidden camera clips of Democrat affiliates/campaigners/Super PAC officials etc admitting and outright boasting about the dirty tactics they use.

Please, just get over your own fething confirmation bias long enough to watch those clips.

If anyone knows another source of those clips, please, feel free to link it. And can anyone answer my question - is this typical for American Politics? Do the Republicans use similar tactics?




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sirlynchmob wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:


who da F is dumb enough to fall for those tactics so that they assault a 69 year old woman? trumpers of course. yes it's bad to pull childish things like that, but it's criminal to assault a 69 year old woman to the cheering of the crowds?

Of course. And its also bad and possibly criminal to recruit vulnerable people with the aim of sending them to your opponents' rallies with the expectation that they will be attacked. Hell, its even a desired outcome according to the people in the video.

Now if only trumpers were in any way moral or decent human beings, then this tactic wouldn't work at all. It's sad to see them lowering themselves to sink below expectations.

You keep talking about Trumpers lacking morals, yet have nothing to say about Democrats exploiting and sending mentally ill and psychotic people into dangerous situations for political purposes. Thats quite indicative of your political bias...

Yes, Trump supporters who behave violently towards protesters are despicable. I don't dispute that, I totally agree with you. Now, will you acknowledge that the Democrats who sent them there are also despicable?

Also, that youtube host doesn't enunciate very well.

 kronk wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 kronk wrote:
The guy is a conspiracy theorist who makes videos he's trying to monetize via youtube so he doesn't have to get a job.

I will not watch anymore of that gak than I already have.

Thanks!

In short: Ad Hominem.

I was 19 and gullible once.

I was born 47 and crotchety.

 kronk wrote:
Also, that youtube host doesn't enunciate very well.

Then ignore him and just skim through and watch the hidden camera clips of Democrats admitting and boasting of the dirty tactics they use.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
is this typical for American Politics?

yes

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Do the Republicans use similar tactics?

yes obviously

sirlynchmob wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:


who da F is dumb enough to fall for those tactics so that they assault a 69 year old woman? trumpers of course. yes it's bad to pull childish things like that, but it's criminal to assault a 69 year old woman to the cheering of the crowds?

Of course. And its also bad and possibly criminal to recruit vulnerable people with the aim of sending them to your opponents' rallies with the expectation that they will be attacked. Hell, its even a desired outcome according to the people in the video.

Now if only trumpers were in any way moral or decent human beings, then this tactic wouldn't work at all. It's sad to see them lowering themselves to sink below expectations.

Now if only we had posters who didn't disparage over 1/3 of the US population like they are their betters.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Anybody who dismisses the video I posted because "hur, he's a youtuber with political views I disagree with so I'm going to dismiss it outright and not even bother to watch it and assess the evidence prestented in the video" is missing the point. I posted it not to share the Youtuber's thoughts on the matter, but because it has a compilation of hidden camera clips of Democrat affiliates/campaigners/Super PAC officials etc admitting and outright boasting about the dirty tactics they use.

Please, just get over your own fething confirmation bias long enough to watch those clips.

If anyone knows another source of those clips, please, feel free to link it. And can anyone answer my question - is this typical for American Politics? Do the Republicans use similar tactics?




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sirlynchmob wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:


who da F is dumb enough to fall for those tactics so that they assault a 69 year old woman? trumpers of course. yes it's bad to pull childish things like that, but it's criminal to assault a 69 year old woman to the cheering of the crowds?

Of course. And its also bad and possibly criminal to recruit vulnerable people with the aim of sending them to your opponents' rallies with the expectation that they will be attacked. Hell, its even a desired outcome according to the people in the video.

Now if only trumpers were in any way moral or decent human beings, then this tactic wouldn't work at all. It's sad to see them lowering themselves to sink below expectations.

You keep talking about Trumpers lacking morals, yet have nothing to say about Democrats exploiting and sending mentally ill and psychotic people into dangerous situations for political purposes. Thats quite indicative of your political bias...

Yes, Trump supporters who behave violently towards protesters are despicable. I don't dispute that, I totally agree with you. Now, will you acknowledge that the Democrats who sent them there are also despicable?

I did, I called it bad and childish. try reading the whole sentence, find a dictionary if you need to.

Stop listening to trump and a youtuber who gives MRA's a bad name. I used to watch him, but when he started to defend rapists (see the trump connection) he actually said "who cares if a rapists goes free because there wasn't enough evidence to find them guilty, the woman will still be raped."

 Ouze wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
is this typical for American Politics?

yes

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Do the Republicans use similar tactics?

yes obviously

Well...thats depressing.

British Politics certainly has its ugly moments but I don't recall any British parties sending mentally ill people to disrupt and sabotage their opponents' rallies.

I can make a much longer list if you need me to, sadly.

 Frazzled wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:


who da F is dumb enough to fall for those tactics so that they assault a 69 year old woman? trumpers of course. yes it's bad to pull childish things like that, but it's criminal to assault a 69 year old woman to the cheering of the crowds?

Of course. And its also bad and possibly criminal to recruit vulnerable people with the aim of sending them to your opponents' rallies with the expectation that they will be attacked. Hell, its even a desired outcome according to the people in the video.

Now if only trumpers were in any way moral or decent human beings, then this tactic wouldn't work at all. It's sad to see them lowering themselves to sink below expectations.

Now if only we had posters who didn't disparage over 1/3 of the US population like they are their betters.

Highly doubt trump has 100 million supporters

 Ustrello wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:


who da F is dumb enough to fall for those tactics so that they assault a 69 year old woman? trumpers of course. yes it's bad to pull childish things like that, but it's criminal to assault a 69 year old woman to the cheering of the crowds?

Of course. And its also bad and possibly criminal to recruit vulnerable people with the aim of sending them to your opponents' rallies with the expectation that they will be attacked. Hell, its even a desired outcome according to the people in the video.

Now if only trumpers were in any way moral or decent human beings, then this tactic wouldn't work at all. It's sad to see them lowering themselves to sink below expectations.

Now if only we had posters who didn't disparage over 1/3 of the US population like they are their betters.

Highly doubt trump has 100 million supporters

His support is generally 38% to 42%. Saying the opposing party are not moral is the hallmark of the tyrant and eventually leads to bad things, like concentration camps and re-education centers. Lets not, shall we.

Or as the immortal bard once said: "rent a cops. I hate rent a cops."

Almost forgot to mention: it does go the other way, sometime. Right now there is a letter making the rounds that George H.W. Bush sent Bill Clinton after he won the election:

 Ouze wrote:
Almost forgot to mention: it does go the other way, sometime. Right now there is a letter making the rounds that George H.W. Bush sent Bill Clinton after he won the election:

Spoiler:

The brotherhood of the men who've held the office has always been a fascinating thing.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
is this typical for American Politics?

yes

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Do the Republicans use similar tactics?

yes obviously

Well...thats depressing.

British Politics certainly has its ugly moments but I don't recall any British parties sending mentally ill people to disrupt and sabotage their opponents' rallies.

Why do people pretend that politics is some sort of genteel activity? It is a bloodsport over power where, even in modern times, this is a literal description. Politics has been nasty since man first assembled and you can look at ancient history to see that everything from rhetoric to bribery to political assassination. None of that really went away, except for the most prosperous nations, and even then, political violence is not completely absent.

We try to sanitize it and make it "fair", but that is far more difficult than it may appear at first glance as humans often tend to be petty, manipulative, and violent. it's why clear limits on behavior are so important.

Sending protestors to try to illustrate the violence seething under the opposition is hardly worthy of condemnation and is pretty much the definition of protected political speech- protestors and counter protestors are meat and potatoes political activities. It is the violent response that should draw ire. If they were sending people to assault Trump supporters, that would cross the line.

 Frazzled wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 kronk wrote:
The guy is a conspiracy theorist who makes videos he's trying to monetize via youtube so he doesn't have to get a job.

I will not watch anymore of that gak than I already have.

Thanks!

In short: Ad Hominem.

I was 19 and gullible once.

I was born 47 and crotchety.

You sure that you didn't mix up the order of those numbers?

"Don't be blind and disregard this YouTube video, it's much more valid than all of the independent studies and fact checkers I consistently ignore when you guys bring them up!"

 Ouze wrote:
Almost forgot to mention: it does go the other way, sometime. Right now there is a letter making the rounds that George H.W. Bush sent Bill Clinton after he won the election:

Spoiler:

Already posted by yours truly on a previous page. Oh, for a return to those days.

 jmurph wrote:
Sending protestors to try to illustrate the violence seething under the opposition is hardly worthy of condemnation and is pretty much the definition of protected political speech- protestors and counter protestors are meat and potatoes political activities. It is the violent response that should draw ire. If they were sending people to assault Trump supporters, that would cross the line.

Correction:

Sending "mentally ill and psychotic" protesters.

(in the Democrats' own words).


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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
"Don't be blind and disregard this YouTube video, it's much more valid than all of the independent studies and fact checkers I consistently ignore when you guys bring them up!"

What fact checkers? The last time I posted in this thread was 2 weeks ago. I'm not "ignoring" those fact checkers, I simply haven't seen them. I had at least 5 unread pages in this thread since the last time I read it, the discussion moves too fast for me to keep up.

And again, I'm not even talking about the views expressed by the youtuber in the video. Just ignore him if his views offend you so much. I'm talking about the hidden camera clips of Democrats describing in their own words the dirty tactics they're using. If you can cite a better source of those clips, feel free.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
even if you don't take the Youtuber and his views seriously

Look at what you said there and apply some sense.




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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
British Politics certainly has its ugly moments but I don't recall any British parties sending mentally ill people to disrupt and sabotage their opponents' rallies.

How would that work, exactly?

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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
even if you don't take the Youtuber and his views seriously

Look at what you said there and apply some sense.

I did. Just ignore the fething youtuber and watch the fething clips of Democrats.

You're outright dismissing [and refusing to even look at] evidence of wrong doing simply because you dislike the politics of the source (the Youtuber). Thats confirmation bias.

If you know someone is a habitual liar, then it's not confirmation bias to refuse to listen to him.

If the allegations have any merit, they will be picked up and reported by legitimate and trustworthy sources.

Also: in before something something main stream media something something.

I didn't see this the other day. Melania defending her gak bag husband's lewd comments as saying that he was "egged on".

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/melania-trump-defends-donald-he-was-egged-make-lewd-comments-n667961


"Egged on"? So you talk like a peep show booth perv, insult and objectify women, boast of pursuing a married woman and, let me get this right, it's because you were "egged on"? Holy feth!
I can see this logic now if he becomes POTUS.
"I didn't mean to nuke China, they egged me on."
"I didn't mean to have the military close down liberal news outlets, they egged me on."
"I didn't mean to "disappear" political dissidents, they egged me on."
"I didn't mean to tell NATO to go feth itself and pull all our support, they egged me on."
Trump's a thin-skinned little b*tch. I said it before and his wife just absolutely confirmed it. This is still POTUS material to some people?

You meet a man on the street. The man offers to sell you a watch made of gold with diamonds. You buy the watch.

It turns out the watch doesn't work, the gold is spray painted cheap steel, and the diamonds are plastic.

You mean the same man on the street. The man offers to sell you a watch made of gold with diamonds. You buy the watch.

It turns out, again, the watch doesn't work, the gold is spray painted cheap steel, and the diamonds are plastic.

You meet the same man on the street for a third time. The man offers to sell you a watch made of gold with diamonds.

Are you going to buy the watch?

By the way, in case it goes over your head, the man is O'Keefe, and the watches are his ACORN, Planned Parenthood, and now the DNC videos. And there are plenty of others.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Ustrello wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:


who da F is dumb enough to fall for those tactics so that they assault a 69 year old woman? trumpers of course. yes it's bad to pull childish things like that, but it's criminal to assault a 69 year old woman to the cheering of the crowds?

Of course. And its also bad and possibly criminal to recruit vulnerable people with the aim of sending them to your opponents' rallies with the expectation that they will be attacked. Hell, its even a desired outcome according to the people in the video.

Now if only trumpers were in any way moral or decent human beings, then this tactic wouldn't work at all. It's sad to see them lowering themselves to sink below expectations.

Now if only we had posters who didn't disparage over 1/3 of the US population like they are their betters.

Highly doubt trump has 100 million supporters

His support is generally 38% to 42%. Saying the opposing party are not moral is the hallmark of the tyrant and eventually leads to bad things, like concentration camps and re-education centers. Lets not, shall we.

Or as the immortal bard once said: "rent a cops. I hate rent a cops."

So you are saying some of trumps supporters don't have an ultranationalist racist vibe to them? I honestly don't think I need to give links for this because we have all seen them

infinite_array wrote:
You meet a man on the street. The man offers to sell you a watch made of gold with diamonds. You buy the watch.

It turns out the watch doesn't work, the gold is spray painted cheap steel, and the diamonds are plastic.

You mean the same man on the street.

Here's the part where he disappears and becomes food for gators in five different bayous. just saying.

infinite_array wrote:
You meet a man on the street. The man offers to sell you a watch made of gold with diamonds. You buy the watch.

It turns out the watch doesn't work, the gold is spray painted cheap steel, and the diamonds are plastic.

You mean the same man on the street. The man offers to sell you a watch made of gold with diamonds. You buy the watch.

It turns out, again, the watch doesn't work, the gold is spray painted cheap steel, and the diamonds are plastic.

You meet the same man on the street for a third time. The man offers to sell you a watch made of gold with diamonds.

Are you going to buy the watch?

By the way, in case it goes over your head, the man is O'Keefe, and the watches are his ACORN, Planned Parenthood, and the DNC videos.

You're looking at it wrong. He isn't selling watches, he is selling the greatest of all things, which is hope