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 Uriels_Flame wrote:
And this is why AoS is better than 40k currently.

By that metric, a blank coffee table is better than either game...

 aracersss wrote:
not even close

From a rules clarity standpoint? 100%
This doesn't happen in AoS. The rules are clean and concise.

This is off topic however.
Can a Mod either lock the thread or issue a warning? We need to get back on track.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
And this is why AoS is better than 40k currently.

lol. If your idea of fun is to continually roll dices to get 4+, and to prance around a table to get a reroll, AOS sure is a better game. And lol agains at AOS rules being clear. There's been a ton of complaints about how unclear and confusing the rules are despite being only 4 pages long

for the sake of avoiding irreversible levels of derail-able thread closing material, got me a new rumor ^^ ... guess what apparently someone said he spotted a new abaddon model in the campaign

 aracersss wrote:
for the sake of avoiding irreversible levels of derail-able thread closing material, got me a new rumor ^^ ... guess what apparently someone said he spotted a new abaddon model in the campaign

Shut. The. Front. Door. You mean the Abaddon the Armless memes might FINALLY die? If it looks good, I might actually pick it up. I have decided to give in and start collecting character models I like from other factions. First was Eldrad from Death Masque. I like the Winged Autarch model too. I will probably pick up a Tau Crisis Suit Commander at some point. And a nice Abaddon would be a fun addition to my collection. I am not ready to pull the trigger on that Kharn model, yet.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 aracersss wrote:
for the sake of avoiding irreversible levels of derail-able thread closing material, got me a new rumor ^^ ... guess what apparently someone said he spotted a new abaddon model in the campaign

Shut. The. Front. Door. You mean the Abaddon the Armless memes might FINALLY die? If it looks good, I might actually pick it up. I have decided to give in and start collecting character models I like from other factions. First was Eldrad from Death Masque. I like the Winged Autarch model too. I will probably pick up a Tau Crisis Suit Commander at some point. And a nice Abaddon would be a fun addition to my collection. I am not ready to pull the trigger on that Kharn model, yet.

That meme won't die because he's incompetent at his job, despite what his fans would have you believe.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 aracersss wrote:
for the sake of avoiding irreversible levels of derail-able thread closing material, got me a new rumor ^^ ... guess what apparently someone said he spotted a new abaddon model in the campaign

Shut. The. Front. Door. You mean the Abaddon the Armless memes might FINALLY die? If it looks good, I might actually pick it up. I have decided to give in and start collecting character models I like from other factions. First was Eldrad from Death Masque. I like the Winged Autarch model too. I will probably pick up a Tau Crisis Suit Commander at some point. And a nice Abaddon would be a fun addition to my collection. I am not ready to pull the trigger on that Kharn model, yet.

That meme won't die because he's incompetent at his job, despite what his fans would have you believe.

Oh, don't get me wrong, the Failbaddon memes aren't going anywhere (though, who knows, maybe the Black Crusade campaign will fix that), but the Armless memes probably will.

I mentioned earlier that the October issue if wd has an ultimate guide to "redacted by the inquisition". The abaddon rumour makes me wonder if it will be the black legion.

So, if Abaddon got bumped, who'd take over as Chief Badguy of Chaos and/or Leader of the Black legion?

Where this Abbadon is going to die idea came from? If somebody saw new model then new model is plastic which means unlikely to get killed off in a hurry.

Wakshaani wrote:So, if Abaddon got bumped, who'd take over as Chief Badguy of Chaos and/or Leader of the Black legion?

Abaddon isn't dying. The memes about his model being armless are going to die. They originate from his metal model having very heavy arms that refused to stay glued in place. A new plastic model likely won't have this problem.

tneva82 wrote:Where this Abbadon is going to die idea came from? If somebody saw new model then new model is plastic which means unlikely to get killed off in a hurry.

He isn't. I think the above poster misread my post about the *MEMES* about Abaddon dying as Abaddon himself dying.

Yea, I don't believe for a single second that a new abbadon will pop up soon. When they finally get to updating CSM, sure. But not a moment before then. That isn't to say it is impossible. I could very well be wrong.

pepsuber wrote:
Yea, I don't believe for a single second that a new abbadon will pop up soon. When they finally get to updating CSM, sure. But not a moment before then. That isn't to say it is impossible. I could very well be wrong.

Why? This new campaign is the 13th Black Crusade. I'd say Abaddon, the architect of said Black Crusade, has a reasonable chance of showing up.

Because we are just starting the black crusade. Id expect later on toward the end he'd get personally involved in the narrative and then the model would be released.

pepsuber wrote:
Yea, I don't believe for a single second that a new abbadon will pop up soon. When they finally get to updating CSM, sure. But not a moment before then. That isn't to say it is impossible. I could very well be wrong.

Well most iconic chaos character who's the one launching black crusades...would seem more appropriate to have his model here than regular codex update. Codex is codex, black crusade is Abbadon's pet project.

 ImAGeek wrote:

pepsuber wrote:
Yea, I don't believe for a single second that a new abbadon will pop up soon. When they finally get to updating CSM, sure. But not a moment before then. That isn't to say it is impossible. I could very well be wrong.

Why? This new campaign is the 13th Black Crusade. I'd say Abaddon, the architect of said Black Crusade, has a reasonable chance of showing up.

It wouldn't surprise me if at this point, GW set about updating ALL of the CSM characters. I would certainly welcome an updated Abaddon, as his current model pales in comparison to his 30K model. It'd be silly not to if they're doing the 13th Black Crusade

New Kharn, plastic Ahriman (30K, but still), and now a plastic Failbaddon?

Could we see a plastic Fabius, or a plastic Lucius the Eternally Useless?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
New Kharn, plastic Ahriman (30K, but still), and now a plastic Failbaddon?

Could we see a plastic Fabius, or a plastic Lucius the Eternally Useless?

I would love a new Fabulous Bill!

Shame his rules are bad.

pepsuber wrote:
Shame his rules are bad.

That's a vague statement that could be applied to just about any GW Codex.

tneva82 wrote:
Where this Abbadon is going to die idea came from? If somebody saw new model then new model is plastic which means unlikely to get killed off in a hurry.

Having a model has never had any bearing on which characters are 'currently' alive.

 insaniak wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Where this Abbadon is going to die idea came from? If somebody saw new model then new model is plastic which means unlikely to get killed off in a hurry.

Having a model has never had any bearing on which characters are 'currently' alive.

Yes I know that but how many new models GW has released in plastic only for them to get killed off right away? Like handful models with AOS that came with sculpted square bases and that's about it...

No such worry in 40k so...

Just because they could do that doesn't mean they will when previous history points "no".

The only way we see an updated Abaddon is if he's a massive £100 kit, riding a fel-forged three-headed mecha-Horus with all sorts of strength D. I'm amazed Ahriman isn't riding a Sphinx.

 Bull0 wrote:
The only way we see an updated Abaddon is if he's a massive £100 kit, riding a fel-forged three-headed mecha-Horus with all sorts of strength D. I'm amazed Ahriman isn't riding a Sphinx.

Well, it's 30k Ahriman. 40k Ahriman could well be...

Good point.

Joke:. New Abaddon will be the chaos version of a Centurion or Dreadknight. Abaddon inside a bigger Abaddon suit (that looks identical to him). Like the king in the last episodes of the original Voltron, he has a Mecha designed in his likeness.

Serious:. New Abaddon would be fething awesome.

In conjuction with the 13th Black Crusade campaign book and the associated plot line advancement, Abaddon will be a dual kit. Can be built as either pre-13th Black Crusade Abaddon the Despoiler or post-13th Black Crusade

Spare me if it was already known before, but there shall be a new box called "Favoured of Chaos" for about the same price as the Void Shield Generator and released at the same time.

If I understood correctly it shall contain one Daemon Prince and 15 Possessed, but don't quote me on the content as I was not paying much attention when I was told.

.. guess that makes possessed the "tax unit" for the formations then.

 Bull0 wrote:
The only way we see an updated Abaddon is if he's a massive £100 kit, riding a fel-forged three-headed mecha-Horus with all sorts of strength D. I'm amazed Ahriman isn't riding a Sphinx.

Strangely enough I might buy that. Go nicely with my egyptian thousand sons.