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Getting ready to cry about the fluff butchery ahead. The End Times is "here" has been a long running thing in 40k since I got in the hobby many moons ago.

I could just about live with it if the Space Wolves are taking a pasting and Bjorn is summoned to help them fight, he's battling away and then a portal opens, the 13th company piles out and turns the tide of battle. Bjorn's robot lenses focus upon a figure in the middle of the portal stepping through. He can't believe it. Fights his way closer, through daemons and things that should really pulverise him. His armour is smashed and dented but he fights his way through, gets to the figure and it is indeed who he thought he had seen. "I have returned, Bjorn".

THE END.

I do not want to hear anything else. I don't want to know what he was doing, why he hasn't been home. By all means push that clock forward to 1 second to midnight but don't give us a whole story about what Leman Russ makes of the 41st Millenia. Just have him appear and we'll figure out the rest in our heads.

Please?

zerosignal wrote:


It's terribad.

So you get free +1 Ld, woopdedoop. You still get run down in cc (swept) which SM don't, and you can't go over Ld10, and some units already get it.

Hatred (Imperium) is the only real bonus of the detachment. Woop.

The codex still sucks utter balls and most of your units are still terribad, and you still don't have grav, centurions, stormtalons, etc etc etc

Once again GW are just terribad. They needed to fix the codex first.

Oh and Kharn... no EW. So he dies to krak missiles, thnder hammer/PF to the face, meltaguns, etc etc... just awful. Clearly GW do absolutely no playtesting whatsoever any more. It's just embarrassingly bad.

I don't even play CSM, I just want them to fix the ridiculous imbalance between the codices. It's like they hire small children or something. Complete asshats. Totally incompetent.

Ladies and gentlemen. I present, for your viewing displeasure....
Cancer. The post.

Kharn is 165 points. What more do you want out of him?

Neronoxx wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Hastings just popped up in the war of sigmar comments section to say that we will be seeing Magnus Angorn, Mortarion, Russ and Guilliman in 40k.

So I notice that Fulgrim is missing from that list. Which makes sense given the rumors...

You mean the idiotic rantings of pedantic fear mongers?

Yeah. Good luck with that.

You know what does make sense?

Fulgrim staying in his pleasure palace because why bother invading the realspace when he can just snort 666 flavors of coke?
Hastings said we will see X, Y and Z. That doesn't mean anything other than what it means.

I personally don't really believe they'll erase Slaanesh from the setting. I do however find it much more likely that they'll allow him/her to lapse into SoB status - no new releases ever again and only occasional fluff mentions in passing.

Neronoxx wrote:

zerosignal wrote:


It's terribad.

So you get free +1 Ld, woopdedoop. You still get run down in cc (swept) which SM don't, and you can't go over Ld10, and some units already get it.

Hatred (Imperium) is the only real bonus of the detachment. Woop.

The codex still sucks utter balls and most of your units are still terribad, and you still don't have grav, centurions, stormtalons, etc etc etc

Once again GW are just terribad. They needed to fix the codex first.

Oh and Kharn... no EW. So he dies to krak missiles, thnder hammer/PF to the face, meltaguns, etc etc... just awful. Clearly GW do absolutely no playtesting whatsoever any more. It's just embarrassingly bad.

I don't even play CSM, I just want them to fix the ridiculous imbalance between the codices. It's like they hire small children or something. Complete asshats. Totally incompetent.

Ladies and gentlemen. I present, for your viewing displeasure....
Cancer. The post.

I've gone ahead and attached a picture of bismuth to remind you that you didn't have to be the edgiest thing we've all seen today, but you still are.

Now that deserves an Exalt.

zerosignal wrote:


Clearly GW do absolutely no playtesting whatsoever any more. It's just embarrassingly bad.

I don't even play CSM, I just want them to fix the ridiculous imbalance between the codices. It's like they hire small children or something. Complete asshats. Totally incompetent.

I believe if you do a search on this board and the previous archives - this may be the most quoted/rehashed/easy thing said each time a new codex/supplement is put out since 3rd edition.

Is the lack of suprise going to cause you to quit playing the game? Because there are plenty of folks who will pick up your collection in the Swap Shop.

Since we have the leaks, and the tears are falling I'm not sure there's much "news" left here...

... regarding the termi formation;

From one point of view, it seems as if the rules just indicates what happens the moment they arrive from DS, other than it has to perform one to gain the extra shooting attack, but on second thought, how would you address subsequent free shooting attacks, if the clause allowing it occurs during DS deployment

... in other words do you have to DS again to benefit from the next free shooting attack?

RULE #1 - BE POLITE.

RULE #2 - STAY ON TOPIC.

Both need to be followed at all times, everywhere.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Kharn is 165 points. What more do you want out of him?

Eternal warrior and for him not to turn into a daemon prince or spawn cos of some stupid @$$ table.

As for slaanesh being written out, please come on. The whole emperors children legion, the eldar, dark eldar, harlequins are all tied to slaanesh. GW ain't removing jack.

 Motograter wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Kharn is 165 points. What more do you want out of him?

Eternal warrior and for him not to turn into a daemon prince or spawn cos of some stupid @$$ table.

As for slaanesh being written out, please come on. The whole emperors children legion, the eldar, dark eldar, harlequins are all tied to slaanesh. GW ain't removing jack.

Holy hell I forgot about that. At least in the Detachment you can roll two boons and choose one or both, so you can avoid this horrible fate.

 Motograter wrote:
As for slaanesh being written out, please come on. The whole emperors children legion, the eldar, dark eldar, harlequins are all tied to slaanesh. GW ain't removing jack.

You know...For starters Slaanesh being removed from current timeline doesn't mean past changes so what you stated would still exists. For second having Slaanesh temporarily being out affects them even less while would allow them freedom for not having to even pretend there's going to be models for Slaanesh in immediate vicinity. Ie why he's out in AOS.

Who's saying anything about permanent removal? More likely and entirely feasible scenario would be to put Slaanesh on similar state as it's in AOS.


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 aracersss wrote:
... regarding the termi formation;

From one point of view, it seems as if the rules just indicates what happens the moment they arrive from DS, other than it has to perform one to gain the extra shooting attack, but on second thought, how would you address subsequent free shooting attacks, if the clause allowing it occurs during DS deployment

... in other words do you have to DS again to benefit from the next free shooting attack?

The rule confers other bonus than DS shooting and yeah as is to shoot again you need to DS again so unless you can do it you don't get that benefit against new target.

tneva82 wrote:

 Motograter wrote:
As for slaanesh being written out, please come on. The whole emperors children legion, the eldar, dark eldar, harlequins are all tied to slaanesh. GW ain't removing jack.

You know...For starters Slaanesh being removed from current timeline doesn't mean past changes so what you stated would still exists. For second having Slaanesh temporarily being out affects them even less while would allow them freedom for not having to even pretend there's going to be models for Slaanesh in immediate vicinity. Ie why he's out in AOS.

Who's saying anything about permanent removal? More likely and entirely feasible scenario would be to put Slaanesh on similar state as it's in AOS.


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 aracersss wrote:
... regarding the termi formation;

From one point of view, it seems as if the rules just indicates what happens the moment they arrive from DS, other than it has to perform one to gain the extra shooting attack, but on second thought, how would you address subsequent free shooting attacks, if the clause allowing it occurs during DS deployment

... in other words do you have to DS again to benefit from the next free shooting attack?

The rule confers other bonus than DS shooting and yeah as is to shoot again you need to DS again so unless you can do it you don't get that benefit against new target.

I can make a long post for you to show that slaanesh is not actually out of AOS but this is not the point of the topic anywaaaay. I will be mainly buying traitor's hate for the fluff.

 shinros wrote:

I can make a long post for you to show that slaanesh is not actually out of AOS but this is not the point of the topic anywaaaay. I will be mainly buying traitor's hate for the fluff.

He's missing. Ie currently not actively goign around. Which is precisely my point. He's been temporarily taken out. He can be put to same status in 40k as well until GW's release schedule allow support(or they figure what the heck they want to do if that's the reason for delay).

If you disagree I'm sure you can point new slaanesh release in AOS...Or fluff piece that shows what he's doing. Last I read he's missing and his followers are looking for him. Ie he's MIA.

Read again what I wrote. I didn't say he's out for good. I said he's temporarily out. TEMPORARILY.

adverb
adverb: temporarily

for a limited period of time; not permanently.

Again: If you disagree with that statement feel free to provide proof which shows Slaanesh is actively around in AOS.

Can someone post the page the leak is on? I'm just catching up and the wade though 45 pages suuuucks.

Page 39 or 38 I think. Pretty sure I also saw the leak somewhere in the discussions forum in the "OH GOD Traitors hate" thread....or something along those lines.

tneva82 wrote:

 shinros wrote:

I can make a long post for you to show that slaanesh is not actually out of AOS but this is not the point of the topic anywaaaay. I will be mainly buying traitor's hate for the fluff.

He's missing. Ie currently not actively goign around. Which is precisely my point. He's been temporarily taken out. He can be put to same status in 40k as well until GW's release schedule allow support(or they figure what the heck they want to do if that's the reason for delay).

If you disagree I'm sure you can point new slaanesh release in AOS...Or fluff piece that shows what he's doing. Last I read he's missing and his followers are looking for him. Ie he's MIA.

Read again what I wrote. I didn't say he's out for good. I said he's temporarily out. TEMPORARILY.

adverb
adverb: temporarily

for a limited period of time; not permanently.

Again: If you disagree with that statement feel free to provide proof which shows Slaanesh is actively around in AOS.

They state for some reason that slaanesh champions still gain blessings from slaanesh and they actually allude to the fact that slaanesh may actually allowed itself to be captured for what reason we don't know. Plus for once the followers are getting interesting development compared to the other chaos followers. Hell a slaaneshi lord was the main antagonist in the last realm gate book. It's also noted that the major lords are in talks with clan enshin trading secrets and information.

Even if slaanesh is "missing" it's touch is still felt Just because it "appears" slaanesh is out of the game it is clearly not going by the events that have occurred in the campaign books, short stories and black library novels. Plus the fact even Archaon considers slaanesh to still be a part of the pantheon. What is slaanesh planning? We don't know but we do also know that for some reason Tzeentch wants to find slaanesh as well even though he got it captured in the first place for what reason does he now want to find his brother so desperately? Well we gotta wait for the tzeentch book/dark elves battle tomes possibly.

Plus all the followers are looking for slaanesh in different and interesting ways. WHFB and warhammer general fluff has been always made out that slaanesh is the youngest but may possibly become the strongest hence why it's brothers are watching it.

Fluff wise slaanesh has gotten a lot of development almost as much as Khorne I feel. I could go on more but I don't want to derail the topic. Slaanesh is far from being irrelevant even though it is "missing" honestly this is the best thing to happen to slaanesh fluff so far because we are getting serious development for once.

Still excited for the fluff in the traitors hate supplement.

Why is Slaanesh gone in 40K? I know why he/she is not in Age of Sigmar but when did he disappear in 40K?

Davor wrote:
Why is Slaanesh gone in 40K? I know why he/she is not in Age of Sigmar but when did he disappear in 40K?

It's cause of the whole eldar nonsense before with the deathwatch release people are fearing that slaanesh is going to get squatted. Heck some people think slaanesh was squatted from AOS. On facebook people were going nuts and GW simply responded. "Such little faith in the dark prince you think the eldar can best him so easily?" Or some such I think eldar are going to get a lesson in hubris.

Of course people still think this is going to happen. Or that slaanesh being missing in AOS means the slaanesh is irrelevant(which is far from the case it's the opposite) and this will happen in 40k.

Anyway this is not the point of the topic.

Kijamon wrote:
Getting ready to cry about the fluff butchery ahead. The End Times is "here" has been a long running thing in 40k since I got in the hobby many moons ago.

I could just about live with it if the Space Wolves are taking a pasting and Bjorn is summoned to help them fight, he's battling away and then a portal opens, the 13th company piles out and turns the tide of battle. Bjorn's robot lenses focus upon a figure in the middle of the portal stepping through. He can't believe it. Fights his way closer, through daemons and things that should really pulverise him. His armour is smashed and dented but he fights his way through, gets to the figure and it is indeed who he thought he had seen. "I have returned, Bjorn".

THE END.

I do not want to hear anything else. I don't want to know what he was doing, why he hasn't been home. By all means push that clock forward to 1 second to midnight but don't give us a whole story about what Leman Russ makes of the 41st Millenia. Just have him appear and we'll figure out the rest in our heads.

Please?

Hell yeah, that's how they should do it ! Great fluf

About the terminators, I'm certain there are some psy power allowing players to deep stike the pysker and his unit, aren't they ?

I can't seem to find this rumored terminator formation.
Where is it exactly?

Slannesh is not gone in 40k or AoS. Its just that Fulgrim is not among the first batch of rumoured primarches to be coming back in 40k.

zerosignal wrote:



It's terribad.

So you get free +1 Ld, woopdedoop. You still get run down in cc (swept) which SM don't, and you can't go over Ld10, and some units already get it.

Hatred (Imperium) is the only real bonus of the detachment. Woop.

The codex still sucks utter balls and most of your units are still terribad, and you still don't have grav, centurions, stormtalons, etc etc etc

Once again GW are just terribad. They needed to fix the codex first.

Oh and Kharn... no EW. So he dies to krak missiles, thnder hammer/PF to the face, meltaguns, etc etc... just awful. Clearly GW do absolutely no playtesting whatsoever any more. It's just embarrassingly bad.

I don't even play CSM, I just want them to fix the ridiculous imbalance between the codices. It's like they hire small children or something. Complete asshats. Totally incompetent.

Well we know GW are trying to change. Asking the community for feedback, the new look WD, the FAQ and Errata, Painting tutorials on YouTube, The General's Handbook.

These supplements are probably intended as a stop gap for the new chaos codex. We know 8th ed is around the corner and it would be silly to release a new codex for them now.

Change is at best, slow and painful. We are seeing improvements from GW. You can't just expect them to change overnight.
By all means voice your displeasure to GW, just don't be a about it.

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
I'm not that keen on the idea, that primarchs are going to appear in 40k.

Mystery lost. even more attention to marines, even through we have a whole game devoted just to them.

So many interesting things could be done - mercs, gene cults, new alien races, even imperium: mechanicus getting even more stuff, ordo "____"..

Yep, couldn't agree more. Really don't like the turn 40k seems to be taking. Now, it seems, it will be even more about superheroes rather than the ordinary grunts

I sent GW an email thanking them for all the cool releases recently and told them I would like a new xenos race. Facebook is not such a good place for that.

They said thanks and they'll let the design team know but can't make any promises. So if people keep nicely and politely asking we might see that new xenos race yet.

isn't genestealer cult the next xenos army release coming in the future?

 Gamgee wrote:
I sent GW an email thanking them for all the cool releases recently and told them I would like a new xenos race. Facebook is not such a good place for that.

They said thanks and they'll let the design team know but can't make any promises. So if people keep nicely and politely asking we might see that new xenos race yet.

Indeed, a new xeno race is long overdue and would be much more exciting than adding primarchs


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 aracersss wrote:
isn't genestealer cult the next xenos army release coming in the future?

gc are not really xenoes

the facebook page has a blurp on psychic powers. It mentions this as well:
It's hard to pick a favourite, as there are so many good ones, but we like 'Flayerstorm', where a Sorcerer can literally rip chunks off enemy vehicles and throw them at nearby units!

That sounds like it's a new power no? Don't see anythingthat would match that description.

** although on second though that's probably machine flense**

https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/photos/a.1576243776029589.1073741828.1575682476085719/1679162045737761/?type=3&theater

 streetsamurai wrote:

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
I'm not that keen on the idea, that primarchs are going to appear in 40k.

Mystery lost. even more attention to marines, even through we have a whole game devoted just to them.

So many interesting things could be done - mercs, gene cults, new alien races, even imperium: mechanicus getting even more stuff, ordo "____"..

Yep, couldn't agree more. Really don't like the turn 40k seems to be taking. Now, it seems, it will be even more about superheroes rather than the ordinary grunts

You know what would actually be cooler than primarch's returning for the End Times? Primarchs not returning for the End Times.

"Father! You said you would return for the Wolftime! Why have you forsaken us?"

"Because I'm dead, son."

Talk about grimdark.