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Has anyone tried to play with a single assassin already ?
I don't think you could win, but it could be great fun.

 godardc wrote:
Has anyone tried to play with a single assassin already ?
I don't think you could win, but it could be great fun.

You can't. You need 4 models from the same Codex.

The assassin could be used for the "Prey Stalker" scenario, which is tailored around this sort of seed, or is this too upsetting to suggest?

Maybe give the assassin a single extra USR from the Kill Team specialist selection to spice things up (and somewhat make up for the inevitable +/- 50pts difference in points), then have a go at it in a cover heavy setting.

I did talk with my brother about doing something like that, his nobs trying to hunt down a lone Eversor.

 JNAProductions wrote:

 godardc wrote:
Has anyone tried to play with a single assassin already ?
I don't think you could win, but it could be great fun.

You can't. You need 4 models from the same Codex.

I forgot it

 BrookM wrote:
The assassin could be used for the "Prey Stalker" scenario, which is tailored around this sort of seed, or is this too upsetting to suggest?

Maybe give the assassin a single extra USR from the Kill Team specialist selection to spice things up (and somewhat make up for the inevitable +/- 50pts difference in points), then have a go at it in a cover heavy setting.

I did talk with my brother about doing something like that, his nobs trying to hunt down a lone Eversor.

I remember a scenario in White Dwarf (late 90's, early 00's) doing something similar - I think it was an assassin trying to kill an Imperial Guard Commander. The regular guards followed "Metal Gear Solid Logic" - patrolling in fixed routes and could only see in the direction they were facing out to 12" or so. If the assassin was spotted the alarm was sounded and the Guard player took normal control. It was a fun way to kill an evening or two.

 JNAProductions wrote:

 godardc wrote:
Has anyone tried to play with a single assassin already ?
I don't think you could win, but it could be great fun.

You can't. You need 4 models from the same Codex.

While true. Kill team is a format where if someone says they want to try it, you give it a go and see what happens.

Has anyone tried imperial guard rough riders? They're cheap, and can maneauver well, and can kill a marine in the charge fairly easily - they're weaker in regular 40k, because they die to overwatch with low model count...

5 of them run you 11 melta bombs. You could field 10 of them + a veteran squad of 10 bodies, with points left over for upgrades. On top of that, you can give the sergeant a melta bomb.

One issue is charging through cover with one counts as dangerous terrain for calvary - a risk... could specialist one for move through cover however.

Still awfully squishy though, as they're still just simple Guardsmen with a boost to movement and a single use buff on their attacks, if they can get the assault off.

Soooo im jumping in and wondering how this?

1x Peltast Alpha
7x Secutarii Peltasts
2x Sydonian Dragoon


it puts me at 190, im not sure where to spend the last ten,

With the way the Peltasts guns work and the fact that the dragoons are bosshoss, im not sure what it really is weak to ,,,

Secutarii squad size comes in at a ten model minimum.

Gonna jump in late here and I'm sure someone has already ran this but!

3 x Black Knights - Stock

5 x Scouts - 4 sniper rifles and ML

1 Sniper has Relentless, ML has Ignores Cover, 1 BK has Counter Attack.

Had a lot of success with this so far. Use the Snipers to take out anything with Ignores cover so my bikes can jink. And so fare vehicle list haven't been an issue at all with all the plasma. Plus 4 attacks on the charge with the bikers at +1 Strength, Rending is pretty nice.

 ILegion wrote:
Gonna jump in late here and I'm sure someone has already ran this but!

3 x Black Knights - Stock

5 x Scouts - 4 sniper rifles and ML

1 Sniper has Relentless, ML has Ignores Cover, 1 BK has Counter Attack.

Had a lot of success with this so far. Use the Snipers to take out anything with Ignores cover so my bikes can jink. And so fare vehicle list haven't been an issue at all with all the plasma. Plus 4 attacks on the charge with the bikers at +1 Strength, Rending is pretty nice.

Yes this is basically my build and I've won local Kill Team tournaments with it. I do give the four scouts close combat weapons except one with a heavy bolter because that's what I had modeled. Camo cloaks are also good; cover is very important in Kill Team, and Ignoring it is even better.


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My specialists are one Black Knight with Feel No Pain, another with Ignores Cover, and the heavy bolter scout has the psuedo-Split Fire rule.

1x Peltast Alpha
11x Secutarii Peltasts
1x Sydonian Dragoon



is that more legal? i was under the impression you took models as singles and didnt have to keep them "size" legal, is there anything i need to add to it? any wargear thats unbearable to not have?

Hi guys, I hope I'm not necromancing too much with this thread but I wanted to ask about my list and didn't want to start a whole new thread for it, so here goes.

I have a Kill Team tournament coming up this Sunday and I think I figured out a list to face most threats efficiently. The tournament has a 15 models max. rule and we can chose the Warlord trait from the Kill Team table.

5x Vanguards - Warlord with Taser Goad, Phosphor Blast Pistol and Refractor Field - Warlord trait Zealot
- 1 Arc Rifle with Eagle Eye (+50% weapon range) specialist trait

5x Rangers - Alpha with Eternal Warrior specialist trait
- 1 Ranger with Preferred Enemy specialist trait

1x Sydonian Dragoon with Taser Lance

I've run a 10x Rangers with one Arquebus + 1 Dragoon list at a previous tournament and got beaten at three out of four games, most of the time due to poor tactical decisions from me, but also because of fast CC units facing me that I couldn't always shot down. So in this list I'm placing some Vanguards to deal with high T like Wraiths and improve my odds in CC with their T debuff. The Dragoon is an absolute beast that make its points back a few times and is a nice makeshift anti-armor (killed two Sentinels in one game) so I'm keeping him.

I don't know how it will turn out, however my main concerns are that two players will bring Eldar lists, one with 7 Scatterbikes and the other with like 3 Scatterbikes and some Hawks. How do I deal with that ? There's chances that I can playtest my list against their on this Friday but any tactical advice are welcome !

kaseyg68 wrote:
1x Peltast Alpha
11x Secutarii Peltasts
1x Sydonian Dragoon



is that more legal? i was under the impression you took models as singles and didnt have to keep them "size" legal, is there anything i need to add to it? any wargear thats unbearable to not have?

Depending on how RAW your group is Peltasts and the other one can technically only be used as elites in a skitarii maniple and not a kill team detachment.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
I woukd like to make a list work with SM Scouts and a LSS.

All the built in bonuses of Infiltrate and Scout, with a Fast Open Topped Skimmer make them up close right away, combined with the right Chapter Tactic, and youre getting tons of Special Rules already included.

The LSS has a cerberus launcher for a Lg Blast, and can take a HF, or Assault Cannon.

I usually give the Sergeant a combi-flamer too. Thats is 105 pts. Plenty of room for more Scouts, Scout Bikers, or Space Marine bikers.

I've thought of doing something like this with White Scars. I'd be interested in knowing how it worked for you.


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On a different note. I'm getting back into 40K after being out for years and wanted to test the waters with Kill team. So I bought the boxed set and some crisis suits to run. We'll be haing friendly games to start with a few other people that are new as well. I know one will be playing orks. Here's what I have so far.

rying to finish my Kills team list and I'm down to the last 14 points but am struggling to decide how best to use them. List so far.

2 XV8 Crisis Suits- 1 with dual missile launcher (will be my team leader) 1 with Dual Plasma Specialist-Sharpshooter = 104pts

8 Fire warriors w pulse rifles and 1- SMS turret-82pts (ignores cover so I thought this might be useful in KT)

Leaving 14 points left over. so...

Do I take 1 more fire warrior for 9 and maybe add twin linked to either the plasma Crisis or Missile Crisis +5 ? and if so which is the better one to add the linked to.

Do I give each suit an additional twin linked weapon = +10pts and bonding knife ritual +2 pts to help with morale checks?= 12pts

Or do I take a shield drone for one of the crisis to improve survive ability +12 and bonding ritual for each +2 ?

Or do I dial dack one of the weapons on a Crisis Freeing up 5-15 points and go with 10 FW (2 squads of 5 each with a SMS?)

OHHHH the options make my head spin.!!!!

What would you do I'd love to hear peoples thoughts.

Shield drones are also units of their own and do not "attach" to characters or crisis suits. While they are nice on the table for holding objectives, they are a bit wasted. If you want drones, go for a gun drone instead.

Having more models on table certainly isn't a bad idea, makes taking break tests a bit harder and makes you more flexible when it comes to nabbing objectives or making a break for the enemy table edge in infiltrate the camp.

 BrookM wrote:
Shield drones are also units of their own and do not "attach" to characters or crisis suits. While they are nice on the table for holding objectives, they are a bit wasted. If you want drones, go for a gun drone instead.

Having more models on table certainly isn't a bad idea, makes taking break tests a bit harder and makes you more flexible when it comes to nabbing objectives or making a break for the enemy table edge in infiltrate the camp.

Wait so in Kill team if you take a shield drone or other drone for that matter it can move independently? So I am assuming to confer the invul save it must maintain some type of unit cohesion to the unit it's shielding?.

It can't confer its invuln save at all.

No #$%^ glad I asked I could have possibly brought a wasted 12 points to a game and not known.

 BrookM wrote:
Shield drones are also units of their own and do not "attach" to characters or crisis suits. While they are nice on the table for holding objectives,

actually, aren't they blocked from even doing that? I thought drones were non-scoring units.

Right, there's that as well. Something we not so long ago discovered in the codex. While they can't claim, they can still contest, right?

 BrookM wrote:
Right, there's that as well. Something we not so long ago discovered in the codex. While they can't claim, they can still contest, right?

need to be a scoring unit to do that, too, I thought.