Baragash wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 Zywus wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
$100 dollar starting pledge? I guess the pretense of anything other than being a pre-order system for them is gone.

I'm not really disputing the conclusion (most Kickstarters from medium sized companies or larger are mainly pre-orders by another name) but I don't see what a $100 starting pledge has to do with it?

All the seminars I attended on the subject talked about the sweet spot which is around $20 or $30, though that isn't always true of course. Many KSs also have had a $1 or $5 pledge those who want to keep an eye on it, just to sort of help, or whatever. This has absolutely none of those things. There really aren't much above it either as you have the individual order and the retail order... and that is essentially all there really is. Instead of being rewarded for investing you are rewarded for pre-ordering. If one wants to do that it is fine, but it isn't a great way to do a KS to be honest.

I've pledged $1.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Baragash wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 Zywus wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
$100 dollar starting pledge? I guess the pretense of anything other than being a pre-order system for them is gone.

I'm not really disputing the conclusion (most Kickstarters from medium sized companies or larger are mainly pre-orders by another name) but I don't see what a $100 starting pledge has to do with it?

All the seminars I attended on the subject talked about the sweet spot which is around $20 or $30, though that isn't always true of course. Many KSs also have had a $1 or $5 pledge those who want to keep an eye on it, just to sort of help, or whatever. This has absolutely none of those things. There really aren't much above it either as you have the individual order and the retail order... and that is essentially all there really is. Instead of being rewarded for investing you are rewarded for pre-ordering. If one wants to do that it is fine, but it isn't a great way to do a KS to be honest.

I've pledged $1.

Well we'll get you an internet cookie but it doesn't change that the only two options presented are the $100 option and the $250 option. Someone above also pointed out that there will be a way to get get just the terrain but it still isn't an option on the page. Presenting only two options but really having others isn't really helping with the perception that isn't being handled all that well. Considering the amount of Kickstarters Mantic has done I get the impression they are experimenting with their format.

 CptJake wrote:
Wouldn't it be cool to know how many doors and how many of which terrain items you needed for the included scenarios? And wouldn't it be cool for Mantic to supply that with the pledge?

there is enough in the core game to play all of the missions - you'll only need more if you are designing your own missions or using it for other games.

 DaveC wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
Wouldn't it be cool to know how many doors and how many of which terrain items you needed for the included scenarios? And wouldn't it be cool for Mantic to supply that with the pledge?

They are included in the pledge in sufficient numbers for the scenarios in the game. The add ons are just for those that want more

there is enough in the core game to play all of the missions - you'll only need more if you are designing your own missions or using it for other games.

 DaveC wrote:
These are the relevant posts - Question and Answer

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/star-saga-the-sci-fi-dungeon-crawler/comments?cursor=14505437#comment-14505436

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/star-saga-the-sci-fi-dungeon-crawler/comments?cursor=14505593#comment-14505592

 Baragash wrote:
I'm not defending them, I'm just pointing out that the $1 pledge is available.

Shipping

Shipping for the core pledge will be charged when you select a reward from the bar on the right. The core pledge will ship in a single package via Royal Mail, and will ship from the UK.


All add-ons outside the core pledge (which will be detailed in the updates if applicable) will ship in a separate package at a later date, and shipping for these will be charged in the pledge manager after the campaign has finished. These packages will be shipped by Royal Mail if possible, or by courier, depending on the size and weight of items selected.

 DaveC wrote:
It's been on the campaign page since the project started. Many people don't read all of the campaign page or the FAQ to see exactly what they are backing.

1. Solat’s Run

A rogue ship’s captain has stolen something of enormous value - his ship and its cargo! Captain Epher Solat is already well on his way to sell the ‘Orca’ to a rival corporation - he must be stopped. Solat has taken the Orca out of range of any of the rightful owner’s vessels but not Blaine’s team’s. Using the ship they ‘acquired’ at the end of the Eras Contract, Captain Dulinsky and her crew’s next mission is to intercept the Orca as it passes through their sector, board it, and stop it reaching its destination. However, Solat didn’t realise he was transporting a Plague artefact…

This campaign will use more minions from the core game and introduce new bosses (Solat is a Sphyr) in a new story that advances the Eiras Contract narrative. This is an exciting sequel that build further on the characters of Dulinsky and her team.

2. Retake the Blackstar Station

The space station orbiting Spurling III has been seized by a nest of Veer-myn. Its owners, Blackstar Corp, want it back. All efforts thus far to achieve this have been expensive failures. The station was originally built as a defensive platform owing to its proximity to Asterian space and, though its weapons were largely thought to have been decommissioned, the Veer-myn have been able to reactivate them. Blaine’s team have been called in as something of a last resort, a final chance to take the station intact before its owners are forced to cut their losses and abandon the technology hidden aboard the Blackstar station.

This one takes the adventure into outer space aboard a space station which will provide some unique new bits of gameplay. It also introduces the ever popular Veer-myn.

3. The Graviton Directive

Convinced that the Tesseract’s policies towards the GCPS are misguided, Tui Hu Shu’u’lak, leader of the Clade of White Blades, has taken matters into his own hands. With the aid of the Graviton Cascade, a device capable of collapsing the fields used by McKinley drives, the White Blades mean to claim vast swathes of territory for themselves and a resurgent Asterian Empire. Blaine’s team must stop him, take the Cascade’s noh core, and eliminate Tui Hu himself before he can drag the GCPS and the Asterians into all-out war.

Note that the titles and details are not quite carved in stone, but this should offer a good glimpse at what kinds of campaigns to expect in future expansions. They illustrate the many possibilities that present themselves in a science fiction dungeon crawler. As well as the ideas above, I hear Forge Fathers might be popular too, and what could be better suited to a dungeon crawler than a dwarven hold...

Goals, Goals, and More Goals!

We're closing in on Monarch, and then it's on to the next phase - expanding the game with more characters, more minis, and more exciting new features to make this the game we all want it to be. We've been coy up to now, but as anyone familiar with our boss man Ronnie will know, we can't keep secrets for long

It's time for a bumper update with all the exciting new stuff to come over the next few days. Here goes...
$205,000 Free Minions!

The new reinforcement rules in Star Saga allow the Nexus player to bolster their forces at key points in the game, and it’s always useful to have more choice in what to use. With this goal we hope to increase the figure count of the pledge with an additional set of three Security Guard miniatures, ideal for when you need some firepower to back up your forces.



$215,000 The Survivor - Kickstarter Exclusive Model & Exclusive Campaign!

With the research into the Plague virus being done on Eiras, the Survivor has a personal stake in the mission. This goal will allow us to bring him/her/it? into the story as a Kickstarter Exclusive upgrade to the pledge. You will receive a new Mercenary miniature for the Survivor along with a character card detailing his rules.

This is the second of the KS Exclusive models now, and we want to ensure that our loyal Kickstarter backers get the best use out of them. Therefore we will also create a new campaign that follows the core game, with a series of scenarios that uses all of the Kickstarter exclusives. This will be printed in the mission book in your Kickstarter pledge and won't be available in the retail copy. We'll post more details in a following update.



$220,000 More Free Minions!

Extra Lab Technicians always come in handy – as the lowest cost reinforcements they are great for swarming the Mercenaries and blocking corridors. When we hit this goal we will add two more Lab Technician miniatures into the pledge level.



$230,000 Ogan Helkkare, Forge Father Engineer

Following in the footsteps of Alyse, again we want to use this goal to expand the choice for players by adding Ogan to the core game. He is a Dwarven Engineer – the toughest character so far, with the ability to place sentry guns and force fields around the board to protect his team.



$240,000 Kizai Uru, Tsudochan Monk

The Character Creator doesn’t just limit you to the races of the characters in the core game – we will be featuring rules and abilities for many other inhabitants of the Warpath universe. One such race is the Tsudochan – highly intelligent aliens with such sophisticated technology that to the uneducated it looks like magic…

To get you started with all the new character rules, we want to add some Mercenary models into the Character Creator expansion. The first of these is Kizai Uru, and this goal will add him and his card into the Character Creator, included as part of your pledge!



$245,000 3D Sentry Guns and Force Fields

The earlier sneak peek at Ogan has gone down rather well with all of the Dwarf fans out there, and it seems a shame to have him running around with boring cardboard counters. If we hit this goal, we’ll add a few more components to the tool and take his equipment into the third dimension, replacing the sentry gun and force field generator counters with 3D plastic models - 2 of each.



$250,000 Project Pandora: Grim Cargo

Back in 2012 we launched Star Saga’s distant ancestor, Project Pandora (which you can see examples of in our gameplay video – we are using the components for our playtesting!). It was based on the old Dwarf King’s Hold mechanics, with some innovative changes to the activation system, and it told the story of a Veer-myn infested Corporation ship, the Grim Cargo. With this goal, we will reinvigorate Project Pandora, updating the rules in line with the improvements we’ve made to Star Saga, and we will provide a digital copy of the updated rules in your pledge.

All of these have been added to the diagram on the front page. Once we hit all of these, the Core Pledge will be worth over $160 at MSRP, and we want to double that by the end. Please, share this with your friends and you can help us get there!